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[shem935]

Shitshow seems to be pointing it lightly.

 

[NYCmetsfan]

Well they basically just did a fake voice vote. We'll see what happens.

That's how parliamentary procedure works. its at the chairs discretion. They have to offer a motion for a roll call on the previous vote

 

[NYCmetsfan]

LOL at CNN having to explain parliamentary procedure

 

[BobTheFork]

Rinse Pubis

Is that a name? I feel like there are bathrooms somewhere in the world that have that next to the shower.

 

[Slayven]

The band is playing like the Titantic

 

[nature boy]

Political Polls ‏@Politics_Polls 11m11 minutes ago
Indiana Senate - General Election:
Bayh (D) 54% (+21)
Young (R) 33%

Garin-Hart-Yang Poll 7/12-14

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[Cesare Borgia]

Obviously Obama is very smart politically but I disagree about Biden. I think he could have run a competitive, long race against Clinton and could out-perform Sanders in many states. That being said I agree he wouldn't come close to winning, and there would be the risk of him saying or doing something that ended his campaign prematurely. It's a ship I thought I'd go down with, given how close Biden got to jumping in the race. But ultimately he stood down.

There are a lot of Obama state organizers who would have chosen Biden over Hillary. Not major players but enough to send a statement.

 

[NYCmetsfan]

 

[kingkitty]

clusterfuck lol

 

[Teggy]

I'm not planning on watching any of the RNC speeches, but this is definitely good tv.

 

[NYCmetsfan]

CNN doesn't even know how to cover this.

This is way better than I imagined

 

[nature boy]

CNN doesn't even know how to cover this.

This is way better than I imagined

Watch MSNBC, Ginsberg knows his shit.

 

[metalslimer]

Obviously Obama is very smart politically but I disagree about Biden. I think he could have run a competitive, long race against Clinton and could out-perform Sanders in many states. That being said I agree he wouldn't come close to winning, and there would be the risk of him saying or doing something that ended his campaign prematurely. It's a ship I thought I'd go down with, given how close Biden got to jumping in the race. But ultimately he stood down.

There are a lot of Obama state organizers who would have chosen Biden over Hillary. Not major players but enough to send a statement.

If all of that is true, Obama was right to not want Biden to end his political career with another failed run. As of now he's managed to become a pretty well liked VP and got the stench of some of the awful earlier runs

 

[Sianos]

this speaker is talking into one of the cut mics, it seems

 

[B-Dubs]

Obviously Obama is very smart politically but I disagree about Biden. I think he could have run a competitive, long race against Clinton and could out-perform Sanders in many states. That being said I agree he wouldn't come close to winning, and there would be the risk of him saying or doing something that ended his campaign prematurely. It's a ship I thought I'd go down with, given how close Biden got to jumping in the race. But ultimately he stood down.

There are a lot of Obama state organizers who would have chosen Biden over Hillary. Not major players but enough to send a statement.

Pretty much what I argue ever time this comes up. Biden would have been enough of a force given his stature that he could have given her a damn good race--and make Bernie a non-factor.

 

[thefro]

Political Polls ‏@Politics_Polls 11m11 minutes ago
Indiana Senate - General Election:
Bayh (D) 54% (+21)
Young (R) 33%

Garin-Hart-Yang Poll 7/12-14

Ah, that's the one that convinced Bayh to run. DSCC commissioned poll.

 

[Officerrob]

This is a clusterfuck

 

[User 463088]

OMG why come out and do it again?!

 

[HylianTom]

Whoa.. was that a former US Senator who just looked into the camera and, when asked if he had a message, said "never Trump" ???

 

[Teggy]

Again with the voice vote. This is just like in 2012 and the DNC.

That did not sound like the ayes had it.

 

[NYCmetsfan]

The chair is trying so hard to avoid a roll call vote.

They just did this! You have to entertain a motion idiot

 

[shem935]

The no's were louder lol

 

[gutter_trash]

that's why they shoved all those dissenting states in the back

 

[Teggy]

Wow, they pressured delegates to drop out.

 

[Officerrob]

Maximum fuckery

 

[NYCmetsfan]

I hope they walk out

 

[shem935]

So they forced delegates to drop out so the roll call vote wouldn't go forward?

 

[kingkitty]

The amount of fuckery is insane.

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

So they forced delegates to drop out so the roll call vote wouldn't go forward?

seems like it

 

[shem935]

seems like it

What shits lol

 

[User 463088]

So they forced delegates to drop out so the roll call vote wouldn't go forward?

Correct. They managed to get 3 states below the threshold required.

 

[Wilsongt]

Just got home. What happened?

 

[Hopfrog]

Colorado and Iowa delegates walked out, correct?

 

[Veritigo_X]

I'm reading Colorado and Iowa delegates have walked out.

 

[B-Dubs]

Holy shit, why is all the fuckery on the first day? Pace yourselves!

 

[User 463088]

Colorado and Iowa delegates walked out, correct?

Yes. I imagine Utah next.

 

[Coriolanus]

An intriguing look at the relationships between Obama and Hillary, and Obama and Biden:

A lot more at the link!

if half of what's in there is true, that man really is the best thing to happen to the democrats in my life time.

also legit wonder if the clintons will ever be able to repay the debt they owe to this person.

 

[shem935]

So is this just going to be a rah rah America masturbation speech going forward? Cause if so I'm out.

Spoiler

Plus I have class.

 

[StormBrute]

Yes. I imagine Utah next.

Man, I hope so.

My state is so fucking weird

But every once in a while I'm proud of it

 

[User 85168]

Sam Sanders @samsanders
Secretary received requests from 9 states for a roll call vote. But three states didn't reach rule threshold. Says it's insufficient request

 

[HylianTom]

God-dayum!

 

[NYCmetsfan]

can you ask to take your names taken off after they've been submitted and received by the secretary?

Just change your vote at the roll call

 

[PantherLotus]

Emily Zanotti
@emzanotti
#RNCinCLE delegates screaming DUMP TRUMP on the convention floor right now. Chaos.

3:12pm · 18 Jul 2016 · Twitter Web Client

oh my god what am i missing

 

[BobTheFork]

Did those fuckers just sweep this under the rug?

How many states would have to walk out for it to effect Drumpf's count?

 

[NYCmetsfan]

This is so much worse than an embarrassing votes.

If they found this is illegitment ....

 

[nature boy]

Sign a petition, but then ask to be removed from the petition?

Apparently, it's difficult from now on to fuck things over, but there could havoc with the vice-president nomination. #NeverTrump could propose another VP candidate.

 

[User 463088]

This is so much worse than an embarrassing votes.

If they found this is illegitment ....

They're now trying to get enough delegates to leave to deny Trump enough delegates. Not sure they can get enough. But, it'd be even more embarrassing.

 

[Brawndo Addict]

The idea that the voice votes are non-arbitrary is hilarious to me. Can the human ear even discern with enough accuracy the difference in volumes that a 55-45 or 60-40 split would entail?

 

[ampere]

The idea that the voice votes are non-arbitrary is hilarious to me. Can the human ear even discern with enough accuracy the difference in volumes that a 55-45 or 60-40 split would entail?

It's beyond comical

And there's no way to accurately tell since everyone doesn't have the same volume voice anyway

 

[NYCmetsfan]

The idea that the voice votes are non-arbitrary is hilarious to me. Can the human ear even discern with enough accuracy the difference in volumes that a 55-45 or 60-40 split would entail?

Voice votes are discretionary to basically speed things up. If you have enough to make it not obvious you'd have enough to get a roll call vote. The problem is they basically ignored the rules and just said you can't do a roll call.