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PoliGAF 2017 |OT2| Well, maybe McMaster isn't a traitor.
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Ziltoidia 9
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A war.
Nah. It'll take a disaster or time for people to feel the effects of how bad his presidency is to reach that.
balladofwindfishes
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That's not going to work.
All Trump really needs to do to pull himself out of this is to do what he actually ran on: doing super populist healthcare reform + infrastructure with Dems. Imagine the headlines. Imagine the chyrons. Go full public option/single payer. Sign some free college bill.
People don't care about the racism. That's what they voted for (certainly not the #betterway)! They just don't want this Paul Ryan Ayn Rand-fetish bullshit, and certainly not when it has the veneer of tolerance and inclusivity (reality be damned).
A terrorist attack?
People don't care about the racism. That's what they voted for (certainly not the #betterway)! They just don't want this Paul Ryan Ayn Rand-fetish bullshit, and certainly not when it has the veneer of tolerance and inclusivity (reality be damned).
A terrorist attack?
Sounds like it's time for another healthcare bill.
BoogieWoogie
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Imagine a disaster happens and he goes to play golf. People will be out for blood.
Also, re: the polls, I don't think people take into account just how much Republicans were taken aback by Trump attacking the FC.
balladofwindfishes
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He introduced the Muslim ban after Paris, no?
The electorate is stupid and racist. Trump needs boogeymen to sustain his image of a strongman. Eh.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Things are starting to get insane. Trump admin/family continue to push the "fake news" spin on everything meanwhile actually promoting fake news cernovich as real news. INSANE. And then you got all these actual news reports from respected journalists called fake news by trumpsters (almost unbelieveable these still exist). INSANITY.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...writer-who-pushed-pizzagate-conspiracy-theory
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...writer-who-pushed-pizzagate-conspiracy-theory
balladofwindfishes
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Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
I thought I remember polling being mixed at the time.
The court overturning it and the absolutely moronic implementation of it i'm sure did not help though.
I guess.
I think Trump is scary charismatic and has deceptively good political instincts, even if he is surrounded by idiots and is, himself, an idiot. It's not unimaginable to see even someone as stubborn and stupid as Trump growing into the job.
BoogieWoogie
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Eat shit O'Reilly.
Those ads were totally aimed at the "WWC", right?Eat shit O'Reilly.
AntraxSuicide
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His numbers got worse after those attacks though because he doesn't have the demeanor to handle them. I know everyone wants to compare him to Erdogan or Putin, but Trump doesn't actually have the persona of strength to use coups or attacks in his favor; he just looks whiny and desperate, which is the opposite of a strongman.
The problem for Trump is that the things he wants to do that aren't super racist or political suicide (UHC and infrastructure) are things none of the Republicans in Congress want to do and the only reason Trump isn't in handcuffs right now (even putting aside the Russia stuff) is because Republicans in Congress are looking the other way for all his business bullshit.
He reinvented himself after failing in the real-estate world out of desperation and necessity.
I'm not saying it's likely, but for someone who sees the world in such bleak, absolute zero-sum terms, it's a possibility. A small one.
http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/4/4/15164598/alt-right-single-payer-health-care-trump
The alt-right love single payer.
What is happening?
The alt-right love single payer.
What is happening?
Hey GSK makes a lot of drugs. Now a coal miner with black lung won't ask his MD about Advair.
btw I literally learned this morning that Manchin's daughter was the CEO of Mylan. what the fuck.
Single-payer is just nationalized healthcare. It fits in snugly within a hyper-nationalistic world view I think.
Single-payer is just nationalized healthcare. It fits in snugly within a hyper-nationalistic world view I think.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
ArkhamFantasy
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They put the wrong people in the house and senate if they really wanted it.
tedrotheredro
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What the fuck kind of inter-dimensional chess is Trump playing...
whyamihere
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New GA-6 poll:
http://www.11alive.com/news/politic...es-republican-stronghold-district-6/428494693
SurveyUSA
Ossoff: 43%
Handel: 15%
Gray: 14%
Moody: 7%
Other Candidates: 15%
Undecided: 7%
http://www.11alive.com/news/politic...es-republican-stronghold-district-6/428494693
SurveyUSA
Ossoff: 43%
Handel: 15%
Gray: 14%
Moody: 7%
Other Candidates: 15%
Undecided: 7%
BoogieWoogie
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He wants to be loved, but he also wants to destroy any who betrayed him. He sees Democrats as the enemy because they didn't vote for him but he also wants desperately for everyone to love him at the same time.
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
That is some Frank Underwood shit.
Well fuck.
UPDATE: U.S. believes sarin was used in Syria chemical attack; was 'almost certainly' carried out by Assad forces - government source
https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/849340098802057217
The Republican aversion to UHC/Single-Payer is an aberration among right-leaning parties around the world. As long a non-whites wouldn't get any benefits the alt-right are done for government programs.
Fair enough. Let me rephrase: The things he claimed he wanted to do during the campaign that aren't cancer to decent people are things Republicans in Congress don't want to do and he needs Republicans in Congress to keep playing ball for him so he and/or his cronies don't get dragged away in cuffs.
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thepotatoman
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It's like i've been telling you guys. Racists don't hate government welfare programs, they hate means tested programs because they wrongly suspect that's how minorities are stealing from white people. Most don't really have a problem with minorities getting something they know they will get an equal amount of.
Bonen no Max'd
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That's about what he was doing before right? Looks like I was wrong to think Handel was the probable GOP nominee though.
Pity that Ossoff won't win outright :/
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
If that's true, than Basic Income is not doomed by default.
StopMakingSense
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Don't have the car today and have to walk to my polling place. :effort:
Abinash117
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The alt-right is held together by being anti-egalitarian and being illiberal. Although, that doesn't mean that they won't take issues that benefit themselves that might be liberal.
I won't be surprised if they are fine with things like being pro-net neutrality, pro government spending, anti-war, for a single payer system, and having a relaxed stance on drugs. I guess they would be similar to "brogressives", basically liberal in everything else or many things, but are skeptical or opposed to feminism and minority rights.
The thing is the alt-right as no real influence on greater part of the GOP, so their ideas will never come to pass. Unless they get rid of those men in power, but the alt-right have shown no real movement of trying to depose them unlike liberals, left-wing populist, and progressives are tying to the Democrats.
Fenderputty
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Once the borders are secure and illegals have been purged I see no reason why UHC wouldn't sit well with this portion of his base.
I never pegged trumpettes as tea party types. Just xenophobic racists.
Eat shit O'Reilly.
Is this snowballing? Do we have a shot at forcing him off the air?
Is it preferable to get him axed so he can go double down at Breitbart?
More_Badass
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It's not chess. It's narcissism and ego
If Trump is the same room with you, he'll say nice things to you to make you like him, regardless of what he's said or done before. We've seen that time and time again
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
Those are some big name backers. More will follow probably tonight.
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thepotatoman
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Yeah, but racists do still care about price tags as much as everyone else.
How'd this start? The lawsuit settlement?
whyamihere
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Little higher. Also they're trying to model LVs for a special election, which is probably one of the hardest things you can do. Look at this:
This doesn't say to me that 52% of Ossoff supporters have voted (they haven't), but that they were willing to tell a pollster that they have and signal their dedicated intention to vote. You don't see that for Handel or Gray.
I think there's a decent shot he clears 50% on April 18th.
Roland_Gunner
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Not saying it will happen but polling for things like Congressional run-offs has a much larger variance than a race for President or senate. There are way fewer voters so intensity is a much bigger deal. The GOP has a big built in advantage because their voters always turn out. So basically Ossoff could get anywhere from 50% to 35% and it wouldn't shock me.
BoogieWoogie
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smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
NY times posted a article on Sunday. After that names kept popping up more people and now here we are.
Beyond that. Per Chris Hayes last night, (edit) NYT started cold calling women they used to see on Fox News but don't anymore, and they found one who went on the record. Then the whole thing flared up again.
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