I don't want him to do it because fuck getting into a war with him at the helm. But I can't deny it would be extremely beneficial to kicking out Trump and the Republican majority in 2-4 years. No one has forgotten Iraq and Trump doesn't even have a the benefit of a good excuse like 9/11 or WMDs.
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PoliGAF 2017 |OT2| Well, maybe McMaster isn't a traitor.
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lol, Hatch is really slipping. Gave up the ghost in practically the same breath.
I don't really understand why McConnell is getting so many tactical genius plaudits for his handling of Garland/Gorsuch? He took a gamble and it paid off. If Hillary won and opted to rescind the Garland nomination for a firebrand left-wing justice, then we'd hear all about how McConnell just let a bipartisan consensus choice slip through his fingers for RBG 2.0.
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2013/11/charts-explain-why-democrats-went-nuclear-filibuster
http://www.jamesjheaney.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/1467279_10153491101520291_1443680299_n.jpg
Take a look at how things were in 2010:
https://thinkprogress.org/gop-contr...ncreased-since-obama-took-office-d11b1b52f7a7
the majority of Obama's nominations were being blocked.
GOP just stole a supreme court seat for a generation.
thehypocrite
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Another shit that "smart" Democrats made more complicated than it had to be. The filibuster was never a thing that would deter a party that sold itself to Russia in order to obtain power. They have no moral qualms. Stop reflecting on the GOP the values that you hold. They don't have time for that.
RustyNails
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Man that picture says everything.Probably a slim chance, but if any of the soldiers there are looking to pick up a 7-figure investment property in Manhattan when they get back from active duty, Jared's the man to talk to.
In case you missed it, this picture is fun too. That's lil Jared with Donald's longtime bodyguard meeting with top Kurdish officials. Trump's bodyguard wore his finest Addidas jacket to mark the special occasion. Not pictured are the thought bubbles above the Kurdish leaders' heads saying stuff like, "They sent us a 36 year old real estate agent? Was the handbag designer too busy setting up her new office to swing by?"
Fuck Jared and fuck Trump. This is imperialist mindset where they think their white knight in shining armor can solve the issues pertaining to the deeply complicated fractures of Iraqi society. This is Sykes-Picot on drugs. Send someone who at least knows the area.
Spicey says they've been talking to other world leaders about setting up safe zones in Syria.
https://twitter.com/noahcrothman/status/850056734404001792
Nazgul_Hunter
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Will / Should Dems break filibuster to pass Medicare for all when they get the senate back?
But the Garland thing undoubtedly rallied conservatives around Trump's candidacy. McConnell didn't just make a gamble, he single-handedly unified the party for an election in the midst of a half-hostile takeover, half-internecine civil war.
Trump is not president if Scalia is still alive. Trump is not president if Garland is confirmed.
I guess I'm on the "brilliantly cynical tactical ploy" side of the fence. McConnell knows the base, he knows the media and he knows the electorate.
Wow. This sounds huge
At least until Trump says the opposite tomorrow.
bangbang i'm a timpani
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why does trump even care about this? He needs a win of some sort?
balladofwindfishes
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This sounds way too complicated for Trump to be successful at
tedrotheredro
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They can't wait to go to war. Big distraction, big $$$ for their pals. They couldn't give a fuck less about Syrians.
If he wants a win, he's not gunna find one doing this.
Isn't this gunna piss off Russia?
BoogieWoogie
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Gee I wonder if the Russians will help us do this for oh say a lifting of sanctions?
RustyNails
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I think Trump needs to run this by Daddy Putin first.
RustyNails
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Russians have spent huge amount of money and time securing Syria for Assad. If it weren't for them, Assad would have been worm food by now. This is setting up a conflict with Russia. Syria is Russia's trade partner and they have oil deals too.
BoogieWoogie
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So I mean Trump is just straight up betraying Putin? Pee tape incoming?
BlastProcessing
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We are quickly approaching a situation where Trump is politically unable to help Putin, there is simply too much scrutiny on the matter now. Conversely Putin is less and less able (and probable amenable) to protect Trump.
Putin is going to become just another person that Trump used and dumped when convenient. Things are going to get weird.
Box of Kittens
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Stealing the Supreme Court nominee is a separate issue though. The outrageous thing was denying Garland a hearing. Nuking the filibuster was inevitable whenever a Supreme Court nominee was filibustered, regardless of party.
If the filibuster were truly a sacred check and balance, then nuking it in the face of GOP obstruction of Obama's nominations would be an overreaction. It isn't and it wasn't. People are focusing on the wrong thing here, IMO.
Vestal
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I can't...
There's like 5 or 6 comments already is he doing a press gaggle or some impromptu meeting? All his comments so far are dumb as rocks.
.@ckubeNBC
Pres. Trump says he has not spoken with Pres. Putin about the chemical attack in Syria, "but at some point I may.
@TheStalwart
Trump foresees a possibility of 4 or more SCOTUS nominees while he's president.
@PeterAlexander
BREAKING: Pres Trump on AF1: "I think weve had one of the most successful 13 weeks in the history of the presidency."
@ddale8
Trump just now on whether Assad should leave power: "He's there, and I guess he's running things, so I guess something should happen."
@MajorCBS
On AF1 @POTUS "I dont want to mention that, but the answer is no I havent. When asked if he told lawmakers contemplating military strike
@JenniferJJacobs
Q: What do you want the Chinese to do on North Korea? Trump brings up trade. "They really do mix. Were going to be talking about both."
There's like 5 or 6 comments already is he doing a press gaggle or some impromptu meeting? All his comments so far are dumb as rocks.
.@ckubeNBC
Pres. Trump says he has not spoken with Pres. Putin about the chemical attack in Syria, "but at some point I may.
@TheStalwart
Trump foresees a possibility of 4 or more SCOTUS nominees while he's president.
@PeterAlexander
BREAKING: Pres Trump on AF1: "I think weve had one of the most successful 13 weeks in the history of the presidency."
@ddale8
Trump just now on whether Assad should leave power: "He's there, and I guess he's running things, so I guess something should happen."
@MajorCBS
On AF1 @POTUS "I dont want to mention that, but the answer is no I havent. When asked if he told lawmakers contemplating military strike
@JenniferJJacobs
Q: What do you want the Chinese to do on North Korea? Trump brings up trade. "They really do mix. Were going to be talking about both."
What the hell kind of response is that?
Box of Kittens
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The magnitude of the administration's success these 13 weeks is matched only by the size of his inauguration crowd.
He truly is out of touch with reality.
balladofwindfishes
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Trump believes he's going to get 5 appointees in 8 years? Let alone probably 4 years? Uhh... okay. Is he planning on gassing the Supreme Court building or something?
I wonder how many conservatives read this stuff and think "this guy is weak." He speaks as if he's afraid to make a decision. He's in way over his head.
I think that's what most conservatives are betting on, tbh. He's weak and easily manipulated into passing horrible legislation and getting into horrible wars.
Box of Kittens
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It gets better. Trump has only been president for 11 weeks (as of tomorrow).
balladofwindfishes
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I find it interesting r/the_donald doesn't really want a war at all. Quite a lot think it will tank his presidency and a few of them said they voted for him because Hillary would get into wars.
Maybe the shine is coming off the penny.
I actually went to see what they thought of Nunes leaving the investigation, but there wasn't anything there on that.
Maybe the shine is coming off the penny.
I actually went to see what they thought of Nunes leaving the investigation, but there wasn't anything there on that.
Obama stole the other two from him. Bad (or sick) guy!
Good Job Bob
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If he gets 8 years he will almost certainly get Gorsuch, Thomas's replacement, Kennedy's replacement, RBG's replacement. You just have to pray they don't start banning the minimum wage again at that point!
This is one of those situations where even though I really wasn't convinced, and am still not convinced, that inaction in Syria was the right policy, I am confident that any aggressive action managed by Donald Trump is a terrible idea because he's too incompetent to carry out even a justifiable military action.
So this is gonna go badly.
So this is gonna go badly.
Trump is a time traveler!
cartoon_soldier
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You need Russia's support to do anything against Assad.
Those videos of children dying via sarin gas is one of the most fucked up things I've ever seen, and if Assad is responsible he needs to die immediately. I just wish we didn't have to go to war to make it happen. Regarding comparisons to Saddam, isn't this guy basically a hundred times worse? Did Saddam ever kill kids?
Also, why does Putin want to protect Assad? Forgive my ignorance.
Also, why does Putin want to protect Assad? Forgive my ignorance.
He was working the backchannels with Putin early tho.
I'll never understand why killing tens of civilians with gas is somehow worse than killing thousands with conventional bombs. Yeah, if you're trying to avoid collateral damage, it's obviously harder with gas, but Assad's been targeting civilians with regular bombs for years.
BoogieWoogie
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He's not getting 8 years.
Saddam Hussein killed hundreds of thousands. Yes many of them were children.
Sadly, people can't relate to war until they see children dying with their own eyes. Then all of a sudden it's a big deal.
Plus you've got the suffering factor.
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