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PoliGAF 2017 |OT2| Well, maybe McMaster isn't a traitor.

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ZOONAMI

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kirblar said:
Shes not going to run. SHe knows better. Shes also going to be too old.
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I think Stewart Smalley (Al Franken) might run, but I dunno man, he'll be pretty old by then as well. He'd probably rather just chill in the senate or even retire. I've met him a few times and he's pretty chill. I don't see him enjoying a presidential campaign.
 
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tbm24

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Teggy said:
We gonna get a similar readout on a call between Trump and LePen?

It is kind of odd to release a statement about a former president's phone call.
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It's only odd because those leaders don't want to talk to Trump nor respect him. Obama still has clout globally.
 
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ZOONAMI

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Honestly i sort of hope for a dem ticket with like Steve Bullock and Booker. I know Booker has maybe to many Wall Street and lobby ties but maybe he'd be ok as VP.
 
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Teggy

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Trump signed an EO on Chinese steel? Don't his businesses buy a ton of it?


Elizabeth Warren said:
Congrats @SenScottBrown on your nomination for New Zealand Ambassador! You have my support & I'm sure you'll make the people of MA proud.
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Can't tell if she is serious or trolling.
 
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Ogodei

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Chichikov said:
My guess would be that he got an offer for a well paid cushy gig at a think tank, a lobbying firm or an "outside" political group.

But who knows with that idiot.
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If he got a good offer from a place that wants him that much, they could afford to wait until January 2019 at this point, barely 21 months out.

He's too young to have a significant health issue (things like prostate cancer can strike that young, but many politicians live with manageable cancer, including at least three governors who have prostate cancer right now: Wolf-PA, Dayton-MN, and Brown-CA), there might be family stuff going on but i think he'd say so if it were family stuff, is a way of gaining sympathy.

No, something's up.

Edit: I don't think Warren will run. She's right where she needs to be. Biden seems to be floating something, and i think Kamala Harris, Gillibrand, and Cuomo are clearly jockeying already. The Castros are probably going to try knocking over Ted Cruz first, though that wouldn't preclude a run in 2020...
 
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Wilsongt

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Polio was too long ago. We have too many people being stupid about vaccines.

Mayhaps it's time for a vaccine preventable epidemic again.
 
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Crocodile

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My dad lived in France for nearly a decade. I know he still has opinions on French politics but I haven't talked to him at all about the impending elections. I'm curious as to what he thinks. Their elections (at least one of the rounds) is this weekend right?

whyamihere said:
Just gonna post this new Rob Quist ad here

https://youtu.be/LsMlhdrz7nE
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Which New Jersey Millionaire is he talking about?
Trump is from New York
 
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Hindl

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Wilsongt said:
Polio was too long ago. We have too many people being stupid about vaccines.

Mayhaps it's time for a vaccine preventable epidemic again.
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Well shit like the measles, mumps and whooping cough are already coming back

Crocodile said:
My dad lived in France for nearly a decade. I know he still has opinions on French politics but I haven't talked to him at all about the impending elections. I'm curious as to what he thinks. Their elections (at least one of the rounds) is this weekend right?



Which New Jersey Millionaire is he talking about?
Trump is from New York
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And the motherfucker got out of Atlantic City over a decade ago so it isn't even that. He was managing to lose money while every other casino was cashing in big. How do you lose money on a casino in a situation like that?
 
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Teggy

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Crocodile said:
My dad lived in France for nearly a decade. I know he still has opinions on French politics but I haven't talked to him at all about the impending elections. I'm curious as to what he thinks. Their elections (at least one of the rounds) is this weekend right?



Which New Jersey Millionaire is he talking about?
Trump is from New York
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Actually he owns a golf club in NJ and will be spending most of the summer there instead of Florida.
 
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Carpe Libertatem

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Blader said:
Kennedy plays the moderate role because he's a moderate. Roberts is not a moderate and is not going to suddenly move left on issues to maintain a kind of ideological balance on the court. He's a bone-deep conservative who is as interested as any other Republican in keeping the Supreme Court as overwhelmingly conservative as possible.
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etrain911 said:
It was already said, but there's a misconception that the court justices themselves feel the need to maintain some form of equilibrium to keep the court non-partisan when the agenda behind all of this, and why Garland's lack of hearing is such an affront, is because the Republicans and conservatives want the court to echo their views as much as possible. The court being non-partisan is the theory, but partisanship is their ideal practice.
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I get this, but Roberts is Chief Justice and the court is his legacy. I think we already saw it happen with the ACA case, where Roberts decisively voted with the left leaning justices (even if Roberts struck down some of the bill).

Roberts may not become a moderate, but if Kennedy were to be replaced by someone well to the right I do think Roberts would consider moderating on some positions. Some wouldn't even really call Kennedy a moderate!

Teggy said:
Can't tell if she is serious or trolling.
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Maybe serious, she could have easily added "and NH" to it if she were trolling
 
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Wilsongt

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I will never get past how people lost their collective shit over Dixie Chicks critizing Bush, and now Ted Fucking Nugent, who people probably only know as that moron from twitter who kept taking pot shots at Obama, is visiting the White House.
 
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AnotherNils

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Wilsongt said:
I will never get past how people lost their collective shit over Dixie Chicks critizing Bush, and now Ted Fucking Nugent, who people probably only know as that moron from twitter who kept taking pot shots at Obama, is visiting the White House.
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It's because they considered the Dixie Chicks one of their own. The problem wasn't the criticism, it was the betrayal.
 
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VendettaRed07

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ZOONAMI said:
I think Stewart Smalley (Al Franken) might run, but I dunno man, he'll be pretty old by then as well. He'd probably rather just chill in the senate or even retire. I've met him a few times and he's pretty chill. I don't see him enjoying a presidential campaign.
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He'll be younger than trump and Hillary were.

I'm going to push him to run in whatever way I can. I feel like he's the only real "answer" to Trump. Everyone else is either way too green, or too stiff. He's a really great communicator and I think he has the best chance out of anyone going forward
 
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kirblar

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VendettaRed07 said:
He'll be younger than trump and Hillary were.

I'm going to push him to run in whatever way I can. I feel like he's the only real "answer" to Trump. Everyone else is either way too green, or too stiff. He's a really great communicator and I think he has the best chance out of anyone going forward
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Franken would be a great VP. I don't really like him in the Pres spot because I do think we need to stay w/ younger candidates.
 
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VendettaRed07

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kirblar said:
Franken would be a great VP. I don't really like him in the Pres spot because I do think we need to stay w/ younger candidates.
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Ideally sure, I'd love to roll with a young gun, but we don't have any good young candidates really. Or ones that will actually have national appeal

I'd prefer someone with experience in the Midwest too seeing as how that is where the election is going to be won/lost.
 
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kirblar

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VendettaRed07 said:
Ideally sure, I'd love to roll with a young gun, but we don't have any good young candidates really. Or ones that will actually have national appeal

I'd prefer someone with experience in the Midwest too seeing as how that is where the election is going to be won/lost.
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Are you not paying attention to the senators lining up Primary campaigns? Harris, Gillibrand, etc.
 
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Stinkles

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Ogodei said:
3% upward movement? So he's back to where he started, almost?

It was going to happen, though the bumpy ride we're in for legislatively in the next few weeks is sure to do good things.
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bump probably doesn't include "oops no armada" and "oops Chinese trademarks" and "oops no currency manipulators"
 
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Joe Shlabotnik

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soul creator said:
Theory: He bombed people and got a week or so of "Oh my god he's so presidential now" fawning coverage. Probably bumped him up a couple points.
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Eh, he was flat at 40 just before, during, and after the bombing. Notice that overall his disapproval is a lot noisier than his approval.

Congress has been out of session so a lot of the major issues have just simmered in the background lately. No dropping shoes means his approval Improves slightly but his disapproval improves significantly.
 
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VendettaRed07

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kirblar said:
Are you not paying attention to the senators lining up Primary campaigns? Harris, Gillibrand, etc.
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Not really confident in either at this point. Their both coastal politicians and I'm worried that they'll have the same exact problem Hillary had. Do well on the coasts and fall flat in the Midwest.

Also worried about gillibrand and wall street ties. I don't know of anything specific but I'm just hoping she doesn't have any past comments that would kill her like Booker. It's an issue id rather avoid all together.
 
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kirblar

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VendettaRed07 said:
Not really confident in either at this point. Their both coastal politicians and I'm worried that they'll have the same exact problem Hillary had. Do well on the coasts and fall flat in the Midwest.

Also worried about gillibrand and wall street ties. I don't know of anything specific but I'm just hoping she doesn't have any past comments that would kill her like Booker. It's an issue id rather avoid all together.
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That's why you grab a Midwestern VP.

Gillibrand's an absurdly good chameleon. Good enough that I'd be willing to vote for her purely on my confidence that she could handle the parts of campaigning that always tripped Hillary up.
 
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metalslimer

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VendettaRed07 said:
Not really confident in either at this point. Their both coastal politicians and I'm worried that they'll have the same exact problem Hillary had. Do well on the coasts and fall flat in the Midwest.

Also worried about gillibrand and wall street ties. I don't know of anything specific but I'm just hoping she doesn't have any past comments that would kill her like Booker. It's an issue id rather avoid all together.
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Gillibrand is 1000x better at navigating any perceived weakness than Hillary. I'm sure St Bernard would raise issues though

She's extremely impressive and while she might be a coastal Democrat she could shift herself into tackling the midwest as well. If she loses the primary it will be because someone like Booker ate into her support and money

Bernie's endorsed candidate will run into the same problem he did if they tackle the south like now
 
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B-Dubs

No Scrubs
kirblar said:
That's why you grab a Midwestern VP.

Gillibrand's an absurdly good chameleon. Good enough that I'd be willing to vote for her purely on my confidence that she could handle the parts of campaigning that always tripped Hillary up.
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Gillibrand tends to be a half-step ahead of the national mood at all times, it's really damn impressive.

metalslimer said:
Gillibrand is 1000x better at navigating any perceived weakness than Hillary
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Honestly, she's better at it than pretty much everyone out there right now.
 
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