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PoliGAF 2017 |OT6| Made this thread during Harvey because the ratings would be higher

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kirblar

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We already had that case study with Hillary. If you don't make those positions crystal clear in your campaigning, it is functionally the same as not having them at all. It doesn't have anything to do with how charismatic you are. He obviously wants to be seen as an ideological blank slate except for abortion, so he has to take all the good and the bad that comes with it.

I expect Northam to win, but that washington post poll should be the norm, not the outlier. If you can't win midterms in purple states by a huge margin while the opposite party president is breaking records for disapproval ratings, then your strategy probably isn't going to work when that president goes away.
What is with this idea that elections should always be blowouts for us and if they aren't then we are screwing up? Va Dems have been clawing upwards for the past two decades in this state. Nothing has been easy here on the state level.
 

Wilsongt

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Actually a little surprised Schumer's approval is higher than Gillibrand, but he definitely edges her out on profile/name recognition so it makes sense he's higher in both approval and disapproval.
I mean this is a poll of New York. That’s a pretty big issue her approvals are behind Schumer and Cuomo
 
What is with this idea that elections should always be blowouts for us and if they aren't then we are screwing up? Va Dems have been clawing upwards for the past two decades in this state. Nothing has been easy here on the state level.

It's an election in a Trump presidency with full Republican control of government. Northam should do better than Hillary.

Pendulums and all that.
 

kirblar

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It's an election in a Trump presidency with full Republican control of government. Northam should do better than Hillary.

Pendulums and all that.
Sure, that's reasonable as a standard to set. "Easily flip the House w/ gerrymandered districts in an off-off-year election" is not.
 

Kusagari

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Any advantage Northam should have compared to Hill will likely be blunted by it being an off-election campaign.

I expect him to win by around the same percentage.
 

B-Dubs

No Scrubs
I mean this is a poll of New York. That’s a pretty big issue her approvals are behind Schumer and Cuomo

She doesn't have the same profile as the two of them is all. Schumer is constantly on TV, he's a huge media whore, and Cuomo is the Governor, and also constantly on TV.
 
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thepotatoman

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That's what I took "win midterms" to mean in the context of VA's bizarro scheduling. Might've been my misread.

I guess I mean any state or nationwide popular vote gaps should be a lot more into Democrat's favor than usual.

I do have hopes and expectations for it to be enough to barely squeak by the republican gerrymander and senate class advantage in a few places, but I won't say that part is easy.
 

Ecotic

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Does anyone know off-hand why a gun abolition in Japan can work extremely well while a drug abolition in America fails? Many of my facebook friends draw the comparison that you can't outlaw guns and get rid of the violence because drug abolition has failed. I know that's not true because countries have outlawed guns (or nearly so) and succeeded. Is the difference merely that in Japan there's a full-frontal commitment to socializing people away from guns, while here in America there's not the accompanying social support and cultural push to make a drug abolition work? Does some other some fundamental difference between guns and drugs explain it?
 

chadskin

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Kelly suggested to the President in a nuanced way that if Secretary of State Rex Tillerson left, the retired general's own ability to do his job properly could be at risk, sources familiar with the conversation said.

The discussion between the President and his top aide came as whispers about how long Kelly is going to last are getting louder.

"Every day for John Kelly ends in 'why?' Every day is tense," a source close to the President said, referring to the struggles Kelly faces.
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/06/politics/rex-tillerson-john-kelly-white-house/index.html
 

B-Dubs

No Scrubs
Does anyone know off-hand why a gun abolition in Japan can work extremely well while a drug abolition in America fails? Many of my facebook friends draw the comparison that you can't outlaw guns and get rid of the violence because drug abolition has failed. I know that's not true because countries have outlawed guns (or nearly so) and succeeded. Is the difference merely that in Japan there's a full-frontal commitment to socializing people away from guns, while here in America there's not the accompanying social support and cultural push to make a drug abolition work? Does some other some fundamental difference between guns and drugs explain it?

You can make your own drugs. You can grow your own weed, make your own meth, make your own E, and so on and so forth. A random-ass dude can't make an AK-47 in his basement.

It's just a horrible and lazy comparison given how both of these things work.
 

Slacker

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Breaking news: Hitler? Not so bad.

Dinesh D'Souza‏ @DineshDSouza
Hitler was NOT anti-gay. He refused to purge gay Brownshirts from Nazi ranks saying he had no problem as long as they were good fighters


Now that I reread it maybe he means this as a criticism.
 

sphagnum

Banned
French President Emmanuel Macron has generated outrage in France by telling protesting workers battling to save their jobs to “stop wreaking f***ing havoc”.

Mr Macron was visiting a training centre in central France, where workers from GM&S car parts factories were protesting.

As the President spoke, some of the GM&S workers demonstrating outside the building became involved in confrontations with riot police.


During his visit a local Socialist party official told him another factory, 150 miles away from the threatened GM&S plant was in short supply of workers.

Mr Macron reportedly said: “There are some who, rather than wreaking f***ing havoc, would be better off seeking if they could get a job there because some of them have the right qualifications,” the Telegraph reports.

He also accused them of “stirring up s***”, French language website theLocal.fr reports.

The President has faced repeated claims he is a “president of the rich”, and this week scrapped France’s symbolic wealth tax, immediately sparking remonstrations from opposition parties and unions.

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The move has also caused unease among Mr Macron’s centrist majority.

“Yachts, private jets, race horses, races cars or gold ingots are no longer included in the new wealth tax. That can’t be,” Joel Giraud, an allied lawmaker charged with steering the budget through parliamentary committees told Le Parisien.


“These kinds of symbols must be taxed much more. A yacht is bling-bling. It isn’t productive for the economy,” he added.

Under Mr Macron’s recently unveiled budget, corporation tax is also due to be reduced to 25 per cent by 2022 – a substantial drop from its current level of 33 per cent.

...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...osses-stop-havoc-change-careers-a7984966.html
I can't possibly imagine why people might be unhappy with Macron...? So sad.
 
I presume they'll put protections in the 3D printers to stop them from printing guns, like regular ones have for printing money.

I have a hard time believing that there is a way to do that. Blocking specific designs of guns sure, but all possible gun designs? I am skeptical
 
I imagine you can do it for specific parts, like the firing pin or something.

Well, now you've shifted from me requiring computer science knowledge to me knowing something about guns, so I'm out of my element (I am the Walrus), but I certainly hope you're right!
 

Ecotic

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You can make your own drugs. You can grow your own weed, make your own meth, make your own E, and so on and so forth. A random-ass dude can't make an AK-47 in his basement.

It's just a horrible and lazy comparison given how both of these things work.

Yeah I imagined the difference in manufacturing was a primary reason, but what about smuggling and the black market? It feels like Japan should be more susceptible to it than they apparently are as a nation of 125 million. It's as though the demand for illegally acquired guns there is non-existent and that's why they have so few gun deaths, which leads me to think the abolition there works in large part due to socialization away from gun culture.
 

Mike M

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I imagine you can do it for specific parts, like the firing pin or something.
I think the firing pin might be the least consequential part. Almost entirely certain that Defense Distributed 3D printed receiver used a nail or some other piece of everyday hardware.
 

B-Dubs

No Scrubs
Well, now you've shifted from me requiring computer science knowledge to me knowing something about guns, so I'm out of my element (I am the Walrus), but I certainly hope you're right!

It's just something I read a little while back.

I think the firing pin might be the least consequential part. Almost entirely certain that Defense Distributed 3D printed receiver used a nail or some other piece of everyday hardware.

Like I said, it's something I read a little while back. The larger point is can't they just put in a protection against a part that's hard to fabricate?

Yeah I imagined the difference in manufacturing was a primary reason, but what about smuggling and the black market? It feels like Japan should be more susceptible to it than they apparently are as a nation of 125 million. It's as though the demand for illegally acquired guns there is non-existent and that's why they have so few gun deaths, which leads me to think the abolition there works in large part due to socialization away from gun culture.

Who is going to smuggle guns into Japan? From what country? Gun smuggling tends to be local, most of Chicago's illegal guns come from Indiana. NYC's from rural Pennsylvania and sometimes Georgia. Puerto Rico's come from Florida. Mexico's from Texas. Who is going to smuggle them over? It's not like they don't have any illegal guns, but there's so few of them. There's also the laws, which are incredibly strict when it comes to illegal guns. You get caught with one and you're done.

Japan's just made it so not worth the trouble that most seem not to want to deal with the hassle or punishments of getting one and getting caught.
 
Pessimism is my default.
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Biden's Message Rankles the Left

“I’ve been around so long, I worked with James Eastland,” said Biden, referring to a segregationist senator from Mississippi. “Even in the days when I got there, the Democratic Party still had seven or eight old-fashioned Democratic segregationists. You’d get up and you’d argue like the devil with them. Then you’d go down and have lunch or dinner together. The political system worked. We were divided on issues, but the political system worked.”
 
Throwing us back to the 1860s and beyond.

Fuck this bitch ass country.

1760s rather.

We can only hope this is desperate bread and circuses for the base that never makes it to applied protocol or law though.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...osses-stop-havoc-change-careers-a7984966.html
I can't possibly imagine why people might be unhappy with Macron...? So sad.

"I grew up in France yet never groked that us French LOVE TO PROTEST somehow."
 
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