PoliGAF 2017 |OT6| Made this thread during Harvey because the ratings would be higher
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Greenwald is not a progressive. He is another Russian stooge.
Speaking of Russian Stooges.
https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/...ive-blatant-lies-about-wikileaks-f463d66b63ef
Speaking of Russian Stooges.
https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/...ive-blatant-lies-about-wikileaks-f463d66b63ef
modernlifeisANDY
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Able to elaborate a bit more? Not currently able to watch it myself.
Aaron Strife
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It would be great if Virginia gov was a reverse-2014 in the sense that most polls greatly underestimate Northams winning margin.
He wins by double digits and Democrats sweep every competitive House of Delegates race for a solid gain or maybe even outright majority.
He wins by double digits and Democrats sweep every competitive House of Delegates race for a solid gain or maybe even outright majority.
Sasse spilled his Dr. Pepper on Cruz during Franken's questions so at least one thing about Ted Cruz made me smile.
Aaron Strife
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Id like to think Northam would be on the winning end of that equation - Virginia has a long history of electing a governor from the opposite party that just won the White House, a trend only recently broken by Terry McAuliffe.
Remember that Northam won the primary easily in spite of public polling having it pretty close right up to Election Day. Also that primary turnout was extremely high, well over half a million votes. Just in terms of raw votes, if Northam got every primary voter to turn out again for the general and vote D, hes already halfway there.
I thought sessions said he didnt remember or think much of meeting like they were just introduced because they were in the same room
Keep in mind that theres a reason they dont weight these polls by party ID it shifts too much. So Weigel is a little wrong here these polls didnt assume different electorates, they found different electorates.
Mark Andrew
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Don't know enough about waivers, but the rest is good. With Trump doing a 180 and dropping his support after a day though, who knows.
"Dig up"? They'll just make it up.
StopMakingSense
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Yeah, was gonna mention this.
AnotherNils
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I caught that and I'd like to think Sasse did it on purpose subconsciously because he can't stand him either
EmCeeGramr
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https://www.buzzfeed.com/kevincollier/twitter-was-warned-repeatedly-about-this-fake-account-run
Fucking lol, @TEN_GOP was a Russian troll farm account.
Fucking lol, @TEN_GOP was a Russian troll farm account.
RustyNails
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Franken is good but his questions need to be more focused. Just ask him one question at a time so Sessions does not get to feign umbrage.
For example,
"Did you meet Kisliyak?"
"What issues did you talk about"
"Do you always fail to recall your meetings with foreign diplomats?"
For example,
"Did you meet Kisliyak?"
"What issues did you talk about"
"Do you always fail to recall your meetings with foreign diplomats?"
Aaron Strife
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I recall him saying he tries not to come off as too much of a dick during hearings, so he probably restrains himself a bit.
BlastProcessing
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Twitter is a problem.
Mike Montero had a post on Medium that does a great job of summing up my feelings:
I remember walking around the city on those days. Lotta hope. Feeling a bit cocky to be honest. But we thought we were gonna change the world.
Here's the bad news: we did.
Twitter was built at the tail end of that era. Their goal was giving everyone a voice. They were so obsessed with giving everyone a voice that they never stopped to wonder what would happen when everyone got one. And they never asked themselves what everyone meant. That's Twitter's original sin. Like Oppenheimer, Twitter was so obsessed with splitting the atom they never stopped to think what we'd do with it.
Twitter, which was conceived and built by a room of privileged white boys (some of them my friends!), never considered the possibility that they were building a bomb. To this day, Jack Dorsey doesn't realize the size of the bomb he's sitting on. Or if he does, he believes it's metaphorical. It's not. He is utterly unprepared for the burden he's found himself responsible for.
The power of Oppenheimer-wide destruction is in the hands of entitled men-children, cuddled runts, who aim not to enhance human communication, but to build themselves a digital substitute for physical contact with members of the species who were unlike them. And it should scare you.
...And at some point, and I don't know exactly when or how or who — even scarier I don't know if the people involved know when or how or who — Twitter made the decision to ride the hate wave. With their investors demanding growth, and their leadership blind to the bomb they were sitting on, Twitter decided that the audience Trump was bringing them was more important than upholding their core principles, their ethics, and their own terms of service.
And that, whenever that day might have been, is the day Twitter died.
Twitter would have you believe that it's a beacon of free speech. Biz Stone would have you believe that inaction is principle. I would ask you to consider the voices that have been silenced. The voices that have disappeared from Twitter because of the hatred and the abuse. Those voices aren't free. Those voices have been caged. Twitter has become an engine for further marginalizing the marginalized. A pretty hate machine.
Biz Stone would also believe that Twitter is being objective in its principled stance. To which I'd ask how objective it is that it constantly moves the goal posts of permissibility for its cash cow of hate. Trump's tweets are the methane that powers the pretty hate machine. But they're also the fuel for the bomb Twitter doesn't yet, even now, realize it is sitting on. There's a hell of a difference between giving Robert Pattinson dating advice and threatening a nuclear power with war.
...Twitter today is a cesspool of hate. A plague of frogs. Ten years ago, a group of white dudes baked the DNA of the platform without thought to harassment or abuse. They built the platform with the best of intentions. I still believe this. But they were ignorant to their own blind spots. As we all are. This is the value of diverse teams by the way. When you're building a tool with a global reach (and who isn't these days) your team needs to look like the world it's trying to reach. And ten years later, the abuse has proven too much to fix.
... I've known plenty of people who've worked at Twitter over the years. Most have left by now. Usually out of frustration. And their stories aren't mine to tell, so I won't. But I'll tell you this: a lot of those people have tried, honestly tried to deal with the abuse on the platform. But when leadership doesn't want something fixed it's close to impossible to fix it. And when leadership doesn't see something as a problem, it's not getting fixed at all.
And I'm sure that in the next few days Jack Dorsey will come out and make a pledge about how Twitter needs to be more transparent. He's very good at that. But when companies tell you they need to be more transparent it's generally because they've been caught being transparent. You accidentally saw behind the curtain. Twitter is behaving exactly as it's been designed to behave. Twitter, at this moment, is the sum of the choices it has made.
Even when the coop is covered in chickenshit, the chickens will come home to roost.
Twitter never saw Donald Trump as a problem, because they saw him as the solution.
Here's the bad news: we did.
Twitter was built at the tail end of that era. Their goal was giving everyone a voice. They were so obsessed with giving everyone a voice that they never stopped to wonder what would happen when everyone got one. And they never asked themselves what everyone meant. That's Twitter's original sin. Like Oppenheimer, Twitter was so obsessed with splitting the atom they never stopped to think what we'd do with it.
Twitter, which was conceived and built by a room of privileged white boys (some of them my friends!), never considered the possibility that they were building a bomb. To this day, Jack Dorsey doesn't realize the size of the bomb he's sitting on. Or if he does, he believes it's metaphorical. It's not. He is utterly unprepared for the burden he's found himself responsible for.
The power of Oppenheimer-wide destruction is in the hands of entitled men-children, cuddled runts, who aim not to enhance human communication, but to build themselves a digital substitute for physical contact with members of the species who were unlike them. And it should scare you.
...And at some point, and I don't know exactly when or how or who — even scarier I don't know if the people involved know when or how or who — Twitter made the decision to ride the hate wave. With their investors demanding growth, and their leadership blind to the bomb they were sitting on, Twitter decided that the audience Trump was bringing them was more important than upholding their core principles, their ethics, and their own terms of service.
And that, whenever that day might have been, is the day Twitter died.
Twitter would have you believe that it's a beacon of free speech. Biz Stone would have you believe that inaction is principle. I would ask you to consider the voices that have been silenced. The voices that have disappeared from Twitter because of the hatred and the abuse. Those voices aren't free. Those voices have been caged. Twitter has become an engine for further marginalizing the marginalized. A pretty hate machine.
Biz Stone would also believe that Twitter is being objective in its principled stance. To which I'd ask how objective it is that it constantly moves the goal posts of permissibility for its cash cow of hate. Trump's tweets are the methane that powers the pretty hate machine. But they're also the fuel for the bomb Twitter doesn't yet, even now, realize it is sitting on. There's a hell of a difference between giving Robert Pattinson dating advice and threatening a nuclear power with war.
...Twitter today is a cesspool of hate. A plague of frogs. Ten years ago, a group of white dudes baked the DNA of the platform without thought to harassment or abuse. They built the platform with the best of intentions. I still believe this. But they were ignorant to their own blind spots. As we all are. This is the value of diverse teams by the way. When you're building a tool with a global reach (and who isn't these days) your team needs to look like the world it's trying to reach. And ten years later, the abuse has proven too much to fix.
... I've known plenty of people who've worked at Twitter over the years. Most have left by now. Usually out of frustration. And their stories aren't mine to tell, so I won't. But I'll tell you this: a lot of those people have tried, honestly tried to deal with the abuse on the platform. But when leadership doesn't want something fixed it's close to impossible to fix it. And when leadership doesn't see something as a problem, it's not getting fixed at all.
And I'm sure that in the next few days Jack Dorsey will come out and make a pledge about how Twitter needs to be more transparent. He's very good at that. But when companies tell you they need to be more transparent it's generally because they've been caught being transparent. You accidentally saw behind the curtain. Twitter is behaving exactly as it's been designed to behave. Twitter, at this moment, is the sum of the choices it has made.
Even when the coop is covered in chickenshit, the chickens will come home to roost.
Twitter never saw Donald Trump as a problem, because they saw him as the solution.
whyamihere
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HA wow.
I guess I should be glad I never encounted that account on my feed.
HAIL HYRA
As long as Paul Ryan is the Speaker of the House, impeachment will never happen. There is no one more cowardly or spineless on the whole goddamn hill than Ryan, and I'd sooner expect Mitch McConnell to publicly calling Trump a traitor and a Russian stooge than I would expect Ryan to meekly suggest the remote possibility of maybe doing impeachment.
BlastProcessing
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Even if you didn't directly come into contact with it, you certainly indirectly did. That account was the generation point of tons of talking points that quickly spread to Reddit, Breitbart, and Fox News. (Gennerally in that order.)
Dominican Power
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Trump is a fucking sociopath.
CrocMother
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/17/politics/alabama-poll-roy-moore-doug-jones-tied/index.html
Has this been discussed? I'm not completely in the loop but I found it surprising. Not that I put much weight into it.
It's a poll saying the Alabama Senate race is tied atm
Has this been discussed? I'm not completely in the loop but I found it surprising. Not that I put much weight into it.
It's a poll saying the Alabama Senate race is tied atm
Aaron Strife
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Yeah we talked about it a bit yesterday when the poll dropped.
Undecideds are too high to draw any worthwhile conclusions. However, its a good sign that the race is significantly closer than it has any right to be.
whyamihere posted a tweet sourcing some Dem operatives that they dont believe the tie, but dont think theyre any worse than 5 points down. And the real goal is to get the establishment GOP to have to spend money shoring up Roy Moore - Jones has had the airwaves entirely to himself thus far.
I said yesterday I dont believe Jones will win, but all the ingredients for an upset are there.
Paul Ryan opposes it
Autodidact
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Not terribly surprising. Moore is a particularly repugnant candidate, and Jones has played this election almost letter-perfect. We have the right environment and circumstances for an upset. If Jones loses, it won't be for lack of trying.
I have the same opinion about McCaskill. She's done the town halls, attempted to engage with the rural voters, preemptively pounced on her likely opponent. I have little doubt her campaign will be vicious when the fun really begins next year. If she loses, we can't blame a lack of effort or poor strategy.
Aaron Strife
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Fuck Paul Ryan
Autodidact
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God, can you imagine the knives if Republicans have to choose a minority leader?
I wouldn't put any stock into it. It said Trump had net +1 approval. (Most polls show Trump at +15 to +20 approval in Alabama). Also, 42% is probably expected from Jones anyways, because Alabama has a somewhat high floor -- just not much more than that.
Moore is also fairly well liked in Alabama (slightly less than Trump, but still pretty favorable).
Moore is also fairly well liked in Alabama (slightly less than Trump, but still pretty favorable).
balladofwindfishes
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Just one year and some weeks away from midterms.
This thread in exactly one year is going to be... interesting.
This thread in exactly one year is going to be... interesting.
Autodidact
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We need audio on this lol
balladofwindfishes
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Are his supporters picking up his speaking style or something? Just reading that, it sounds like something Trump would say.
Lol.
sounds like something from r/t_d or 4chan
BoogieWoogie
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Can this be slipped under reconciliation?
He had 53 / 39 favorable in a few recent polls.
He nearly lost in 2012 because chief justice and attorney general races tend to be less political than statewide races, and his opponent was very well liked. I doubt the GOP leaning Alabamans are going to suddenly be "wow, I really want a liberal democrat to represent us in the senate!". And I doubt there'll be enough democrats to turnout.
I live 10 minutes away from Alabama. A lot of dudes throw a fit when their property taxes go up by 0.01% to support the local schools (which tend to be not great). They're also very socially conservative. Doug Jones saying he's vehemently pro-choice was a big, big mistake.
Trump has done shit like this before, which is why we need audio.
And they're not great because the middle class+ white residents have their kids in private school and deliberately starve the public schools of funding.
Honestly, it's not even that in Alabama. A lot of them just don't want their taxes to be raised, even if their kids go to these public schools.
The private school problem is a lot worse up north (where I used to live) in New Jersey / New York.
So, uh...there are people that think Melania has a body double
https://mobile.twitter.com/JoeVargas/status/920507354403233793
https://mobile.twitter.com/JoeVargas/status/920507354403233793
Curious Puppy
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Can you actually imagine someone saying and believing this earnestly.
Like I still have such a hard time imagining how people like this exist, this is beyond Koresh and Jonestown. At least those people had... beliefs. This is cultism just as extreme but even dumber.
BoogieWoogie
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I mean....now that you mention it.....
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