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[Qwerty710710]

Hey how do I get to the Gaf IRC chat??

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

I actually didn't think the speech was that bad. He seemed more energetic than ever before. If McCain campaigned like that the whole time, and didn't attack Obama's character constantly, he would've had a shot.

If McCain did the exact opposite of almost all of his campaign moves, he would probably have won.

 

[Evlar]

Report from Republicanville, FL: I went past three polling places, no lines.

 

[Gary Whitta]

Richard Quest is anchoring on CNN international.......;(

LOL I can't stand that guy.

 

[speculawyer]

clarification, please:

any ideas why obama voted against the Induced Birth Infant Liability Act? i hadn't heard about this. i am pro-choice, but this seems extreme. is there an explanation?

You can look it up on the internet. But the argument is like this:
1) The way the law was written, it could have been interpreted by some as defining a fetus as human and thus bootstrap itself into a law banning all abortions.
2) Existing laws already required that doctors work to save the life of a baby born alive.

 

[JSnake]

Anyone got a live stream link to the McCain rally?

 

[Barrett2]

clarification, please:

any ideas why obama voted against the Induced Birth Infant Liability Act? i hadn't heard about this. i am pro-choice, but this seems extreme. is there an explanation?

If that is the state law, its because the law was redundant, the same protections afforded by the law already exist under pre-existing state laws. The proposed law was a canard.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

Alright, I'm in England tonight. What streams can I use?

 

[WaltJay]

I actually didn't think the speech was that bad. He seemed more energetic than ever before. If McCain campaigned like that the whole time, and didn't attack Obama's character constantly, he would've had a shot.

^^ ...and picked a running mate that isn't a brain dead barbie doll.

 

[ZeoVGM]

Haha.

Well it's just DECRIMINALIZING pot, meaning less punishment for small amounts. It doesn't legalize it, sadly.

(I've never smoked pot before, btw. I just think it's stupid to be illegal.)

Just think of them as little horses.....

My friend got mad at me because her dad works in dog racing. Sorry, I just don't agree with it.

 

[Tamanon]

Does anybody know what happens to Obama's extra campaign money after the campaign is over tonight? I imagine if he took public financing that any extra would go back into the pool. However, he didn't take the financing and he's guaranteed to have leftovers because he's a fund raising machine. What happens to the left overs? I imagine they don't go back to the donors (logistical nightmare there). Does it just get frozen? If he wins can he unfreeze this money in 2012 for re-election? Does it just all get given to the DNC?

He can save it for 2012's campaign, give it to chairty and I believe he can use it for transition planning too.

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

Report from Republicanville, FL: I went past three polling places, no lines.

Republican voting centers are pretty efficient, sir! Those Democrat don't know how to properly fund putting a piece of paper in a box!

 

[StoOgE]

Does anybody know what happens to Obama's extra campaign money after the campaign is over tonight? I imagine if he took public financing that any extra would go back into the pool. However, he didn't take the financing and he's guaranteed to have leftovers because he's a fund raising machine. What happens to the left overs? I imagine they don't go back to the donors (logistical nightmare there). Does it just get frozen? If he wins can he unfreeze this money in 2012 for re-election? Does it just all get given to the DNC?

he can donate it to another campaign.. so he can give it to the DSCC, he can give it to his own reelection campaign, etc. It will go to a democratic cause, probably the congressional or senate committee for midterms.

 

[speculawyer]

Richard Quest is awesome, fyi

Isn't he the guy that got caught up in some weird gay sex scandal? (Not that there is anything wrong with being gay.)

 

[VALIS]

so, what time do we know the results of the 7pm states?

Depends on how close the numbers are.

 

[Gary Whitta]

Tucker Bounds spouting his shit on CNN. If I never see this guy again it'll be too soon.

 

[Speevy]

Obama is working out in the party gym from Rocky 3, while Mccain takes steroids and punches at dangerous velocities.

 

[avaya]

Alright, I'm in England tonight. What streams can I use?

Streams?

You can watch CNN, Fox and MSNBC on Sky if you have access to it. Lots of places around town if you're in London will have the thing on all night.

 

[Zeliard]

Tucker Bounds spouting his shit on CNN. If I never see this guy again it'll be too soon.

I can't believe that guy is still a McCain surrogate. :lol

 

[GrapeApes]

Someone post the stream links. This should be in the first post btw.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

Streams?

You can watch CNN, Fox and MSNBC on Sky if you have access to it. Lots of places around town if you're in London will have the thing on all night.

I also don't have a TV, but I have a computer and would like to watch live state-by-state.

 

[KRS7]

Report from Republicanville, FL: I went past three polling places, no lines.

If it's anything like republican Ohio, they have no lines because they have dozens of machines per precinct and more than enough for every voter. I have never had to wait in line to vote in any election because there are probably more machines for my little suburb than half the city.

 

[Killthee]

Anyone got a live stream link to the McCain rally?

Rally is over, but here are the stream links for anybody who needs them.....


C-SPAN1 (Direct Link), C-SPAN2 (Direct Link)

CNN.com Live
Direct Links:
Stream 1
Stream 2
Stream 3
Stream 4

MSNBC (MSNBC Election Day Online coverage has started....Link is streaming live MSNBC right now!); if the link is changed or it goes down, the frontpage of MSNBC.com will have the new link posted when it goes back up.

 

[besada]

I can't believe that guy is still a McCain surrogate. :lol

Who else would want the job?

 

[Diablos]

"Return of the mack"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB1D9wWxd2w



Seriously, though?

Okay.

I don't even know where to start about McCain's speech.

-Bragged about his mom buying a car in France because she was too old to rent one. WTF does this have to do with getting people to vote at the last minute?
-Bragged about Todd Palin being able to finish races with a broken arm or whatever. WTF does this have to do with you getting people to vote at the last minute?
-"Some" of the Pundits have written you off? Grampy, even Karl Rove has Obama well ahead of you in the electoral college in his final prediction.
-DRILL BABY DRILL sucks, you should be ashamed for saying it.
-MSNBC saying it's your best speech to date? Talk about too little, too late. I'm glad that best speech of yours got an extra five people to the polls, congrats!

 

[Fatalah]

SO ANNOYING. MSNBC's live feed keeps pre-rolling an ad for a documentary series about how the Japanese keep killing whales.

 

[Barrett2]

Just watched the View clip... my god, what a complete dumb-fuck Elizabeth is. Wowza...

 

[ZeroTolerance]

I can't believe that guy is still a McCain surrogate. :lol

"We're are going to win Virginia, Pennsylvania and Ohio because Obama lost it to ..uhhh..Senator Clinton"

 

[ShockingAlberto]

I can't believe that guy is still a McCain surrogate. :lol

I can't believe it, either. But I did enjoy that period where the media picked up their collective balls and just started picking on Tucker Bounds everytime he get stupid on their shows.

 

[so_awes]

Real talk. Hasslebeck was talking about Obama lacked integrity. When they brought up McCain cheating on his disfigured wife she acted like it wasn't a big deal.

wow!!!!!! is there a video of this?? what a fucking idiot!!

 

[Sanjuro]

Haha.

Well it's just DECRIMINALIZING pot, meaning less punishment for small amounts. It doesn't legalize it, sadly.

(I've never smoked pot before, btw. I just think it's stupid to be illegal.)



My friend got mad at me because her dad works in dog racing. Sorry, I just don't agree with it.

Neither do I and I voted same.

 

[Y2Kev]

Tucker Bounds has to be a mccain surrogate. Everyone else got grounded days or months ago....Nancy PFFOTTOTOTENENOHauer, Carly Fiorina, etc.

wheel out michelle bachmann

 

[Steve Youngblood]

Who else would want the job?

Hell, if it paid enough, I'd take the job and spout disingenuous nonsense. Being a professional spinmaster has to be the easiest job in the world.

 

[Hitokage]

Dax: There are too many adults posting in this thread representing North Carolina for a child like yourself to claim exclusive ownership of the state.

 

[Shiggie]

http://obamasnewpresidentialthemesong.ytmnd.com/

 

[Chojin]

+2 Obama for South Dakota!

Me and my brother just got back from voting.

Parents sent theirs absentee as they live in the Philippines, I know my dad went for Obama but my mom prolly went McCain to spite my dad. Asian moms can be like that


5 more hours! Going nuts here!

 

[Shard]

Whale Wars, only on Animal Planet.

 

[soul creator]

Does anybody know what happens to Obama's extra campaign money after the campaign is over tonight? I imagine if he took public financing that any extra would go back into the pool. However, he didn't take the financing and he's guaranteed to have leftovers because he's a fund raising machine. What happens to the left overs? I imagine they don't go back to the donors (logistical nightmare there). Does it just get frozen? If he wins can he unfreeze this money in 2012 for re-election? Does it just all get given to the DNC?

he gets to spend it all on hookers and blow. The guy deserves it after all

 

[Amir0x]

:lol @ the reporter on Fox News trying to equate the rise in oil prices today with the markets expectation that Obama will win

 

[MaddenNFL64]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5oMY6_kCoo&feature=related

Man, the stone wall broke a bit. I liked it. When he gets to the "Don't boo, just vote" line, total breakdown.

 

[avaya]

I also don't have a TV, but I have a computer and would like to watch live state-by-state.

CNN.com video should be streaming live.

Check out BBC website as well, they normally have a tie in with ABC.

You might wanna download TVUPlayer, that will have Sky on it and a variety of news channels.

 

[ZealousD]

"We're are going to win Virginia, Pennsylvania and Ohio because Obama lost it to ..uhhh..Senator Clinton"

:lol :lol

Not only is that really dumb thinking, but he beat Clinton pretty handily in Virginia. :lol

 

[Beaulieu]

Here's foxnews this morning suggesting that the Clintons are voting for McCain:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/04/fox-news-megyn-kelly-sugg_n_140977.html

Here's foxnews this morning saying a random black guy IS Barack Obama:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/04/fox-friends-host-steve-do_n_140967.html

Here's foxnews this morning saying Obama prolonged voting to get more face-time:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/04/fox-friends-host-gretchen_n_140989.html


ANY report they make has to have a asterisk next to it.

wow.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Obama tells people to "go vote."

McCain tells people to "fight." Fight how? By kicking the shit out of a black guy? By sending fraudulent text messages to Obama supporters? By rigging the polls? His use of that word just tells me he's encouraging the kind of filthiness being reported.

Fight the Power that be?

 

[Steve Youngblood]

:lol @ the reporter on Fox News trying to equate the rise in oil prices today with the markets expectation that Obama will win

I remember the same argument being used when the DOW dropped during the DNC.

 

[Xisiqomelir]

Tucker Bounds has to be a mccain surrogate. Everyone else got grounded days or months ago....Nancy PFFOTTOTOTENENOHauer, Carly Fiorina, etc.

wheel out michelle bachmann

Haha they can't. She's about to receive MaximumDeathpwnage

 

[Nabs]

wow!!!!!! is there a video of this?? what a fucking idiot!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLvCRgtvVA4

 

[Tamanon]

:lol @ the reporter on Fox News trying to equate the rise in oil prices today with the markets expectation that Obama will win

It works! Stocks go down it's because of Obama, Oil goes up it's because of Obama. Since they generally tend to work against each other, it all works out

 

[Fragamemnon]

Republican voting centers are pretty efficient, sir! Those Democrat don't know how to properly fund putting a piece of paper in a box!

To be fair, my ultraliberal voting places in Orange and Durham counties (NC) that I passed by today while canvassing earlier had no lines either. Most of the problems out there in the country today are due to mechanical fuckups, from what I can tell.

 

[Count Dookkake]

Literally every request can be replaced with an equivalent command without loss of information, though certainly with loss of nuance. And the whole premise of voter suppression is that people who lack adequate knowledge about the electoral process can be convinced that false information comes from an official source. Especially near election day, many people are afraid they are doing something wrong. Messages like this one are targeted at such potential voters. If even one of them decides not to vote on the basis of this message, they have successfully suppressed some voters. The wording is deliberately ambiguous, but "we" in this context suggests an official group. Again, we can have this argument all day, but ultimately I don't think anyone is really questioning the intent of the message, or whether or not it is deliberately misleading.

Well, yeah, we could probalby talk about this all day.

Spoiler

I don't think anyone other than a couple of knee-jerk jerk-offs were "arguing"

I agree that the intent is to mislead (even in my earlier posts I acknowledged the text was "dirty"), but was not sure how the wording was different (ie more illegal) than a misleading campaign ad with the intent of stopping votes for a particular candidate. Even if it turns out that this particular text is 100% illegal, a smart (and corrupt) enough person should be able to dance around such laws easily.

I am eager to see if this specific text gets the sender in trouble and then what happens in court.