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[Dolphin]

Current Flip4Mac version doesn't work with CNN Live in FF (I think it works in Safari). Uninstall the stuff you installed in your list and then install Flip4Mac 2.2.0.49

You are a LIFESAVER. Thanks to you other guys too, but this was faster and easier.

 

[v1cious]

O'Reilly just said that Palin's answer about going to war with Russia was her best part of the interview. Ya...if you want WW3. :lol :lol :lol :lol

is it wrong that i want her son to die in Iraq? i just want the reality driven home to her of what's actually happening abroad.

 

[Loudninja]

is it wrong that i want her son to die in Iraq? i just want the reality driven home her of what actually happening abroad.

Hey don't say stuff like that,its really unnecessary.

 

[pxleyes]

is it wrong that i want her son to die in Iraq? i just want the reality driven home to her of what's actually happening abroad.

Ya, it is wrong. Sorry dude

 

[woxel1]

that wasn't a very long speech...think Obama's got diarrhea?

If it means getting to the point quicker, it can't hurt

 

[saelz8]

is it wrong that i want her son to die in Iraq? i just want the reality driven home to her of what's actually happening abroad.

Stupid.

 

[Diablos]

that wasn't a very long speech...think Obama's got diarrhea?

:lol

 

[Dolphin]

Hey don't say stuff like that,its really unnecessary.

Unnecessary, but delicious. Deliciously evil.

Spoiler

It would be terrible if her son died in Iraq, but if she was sent there and had to witness the carnage, and maybe get beat up a little...well it couldn't hurt her character.

 

[Tamanon]

is it wrong that i want her son to die in Iraq? i just want the reality driven home to her of what's actually happening abroad.

Yes, that's a horrible thing to say. While she may use her son as a tool to justify her decisions, that doesn't mean anybody else should.

 

[The Lamonster]

In what respect, Charlie?

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[Loudninja]

Charlie!

 

[v1cious]

Stupid.

ok die may be too much, maybe badly wounded. i'm sorry but it's the reality check she's in bad need of. i don't think she would say half the shit she does if the horrors of war of came to her doorstep.

 

[Gaborn]

Spoiler

It would be terrible if her son died in Iraq, but if she was sent there and had to witness the carnage, and maybe get beat up a little...well it couldn't hurt her character.

You should've stopped at your first clause. The Iraq war is absolutely indefensible but wishing ill on anyone is just completely tasteless.

errr... the same goes for v1cious

 

[SnakeswithLasers]

That Obama attack ad sucks. Just watched it. If that's his idea of playing hard, he might as well not throw any punches. John McCain can't use a computer? Who cares. They should've tied that into a grander theme. How can a McCain that can't use computers lead a country that is rapidly being changed with technology?

The wolf ad is something serious and hard hitting and should be the kind of punches thrown. The McCain can't use a computer ad is weak. I might donate for the wolf ad.

If you haven't seen it, it's here! Must see!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQobIUE1zTU

Spread it around.

Jesus.

 

[Mr Jared]

Damn you, Olbermann! You beat me to the Charlie montage :lol I think I still got something though.

This is going to be a great two hour block of LIBBURURRAAALLL television, isn't it?

 

[Dolphin]

You should've stopped at your first clause. The Iraq war is absolutely indefensible but wishing ill on anyone is just completely tasteless.

errr... the same goes for v1cious

The beating up part was a joke. Don't be so sensitive.

 

[Blader]

is it wrong that i want her son to die in Iraq? i just want the reality driven home to her of what's actually happening abroad.

Oh, Christ.

That's it. I'm out of here. This thread just reached an unbearable level for me.

 

[Gaborn]

The beating up part was a joke. Don't be so sensitive.

I'm not trying to be overly sensitive, I'm just telling you that kind of joking in a political thread is unnecessary, there are many rational arguments and reasons to understand the Iraq war is immoral, wrong, unnecessary, wasteful, and has done far more harm than good. That kind of remark simply adds nothing to the discussion. You're free to continue with that kind of rhetoric, I'm just saying it's not particularly useful

 

[saelz8]

I think that was one of his best speeches in a while, since probably the DNC, though it was short. It was quality over quantity.

He raised his voice more than I think any speech since the DNC. He called out McCain as soon as he started, then offered solutions. He tied McCain to Bush, which hasn't really done lately. He didn't mention Palin, at all.

He closed it off with talk about hope and uniting America.

Lately his policy talk has been sort of flat, without as much Hope, Change mixed in. I think this was a good return to form. Lets hope he keeps it up.

 

[bob_arctor]

is it wrong that i want her son to die in Iraq? i just want the reality driven home to her of what's actually happening abroad.

What the fucking fuck is this garbage?

 

[Saint Gregory]

i'm sorry but it's the reality check she's in bad need of. i don't think she would say half the shit she does horrors of war of came to her doorstep.

You really think that if, God forbid (seriously God forbid), something happened to her son in Iraq that she and the Republican party wouldn't play that up to the Nth degree? I would fully expect his funeral to turned into a full fledged campaign rally complete with Gov. Palin delivering her speech while clinging to his tear-soaked coffin.

 

[Loudninja]

I think that was one of his best speeches in a while, since probably the DNC, though it was short. It was quality over quantity.

He raised his voice more than I think any speech since the DNC. He called out McCain as soon as he started, then offered solutions. He tied McCain to Bush, which hasn't really done lately. He didn't mention Palin, at all.

He closed it off with talk about hope and uniting America.

Lately his policy talk has been sort of flat, without as much Hope, Change mixed in. I think this was a good return to form. Lets hope he keeps it up.

Nice thanks for the summary

 

[saelz8]

ok die may be too much, maybe badly wounded. i'm sorry but it's the reality check she's in bad need of. i don't think she would say half the shit she does if the horrors of war of came to her doorstep.

What you should be hoping for, if you want her to change her mind, is her coming to a realization on her own, without the need of injury in her family.

Her son isn't her, and him dying is no gaurantee of anything but a loss of life.

 

[v1cious]

You really think that if, God forbid (seriously God forbid), something happened to her son in Iraq that she and the Republican party wouldn't play that up to the Nth degree? I would fully expect his funeral to turned into a full fledged campaign rally complete with Gov. Palin delivering her speech while clinging to his tear-soaked coffin.

eh, sadly you're right.

 

[Y2Kev]

God, that splicing together of Palin's interview made her look even more insipid and unqualified than ever before.

 

[LCGeek]

is it wrong that i want her son to die in Iraq? i just want the reality driven home to her of what's actually happening abroad.

You know the government throughly checks in to comments like this made against potential candidates who would be in a high posistion of any branch of the governement. If the secret service or FBI comes out for a nice chat when they add you to the security list don't be surprised.

Viscious yes, wise no. Don't mess with protective paranoid authoritative states if you value your existence.

 

[Gaborn]

You really think that if, God forbid (seriously God forbid), something happened to her son in Iraq that she and the Republican party wouldn't play that up to the Nth degree? I would fully expect his funeral to turned into a full fledged campaign rally complete with Gov. Palin delivering her speech while clinging to his tear-soaked coffin.

Why not, it happened with Wellstone, I'm sure the Republicans can be equally tasteless.

 

[Soybean]

I'm sure it's been posted already, but the Gallup numbers for Congressional races are looking bad too. I'm so depressed.

 

[Dolphin]

I'm not trying to be overly sensitive, I'm just telling you that kind of joking in a political thread is unnecessary, there are many rational arguments and reasons to understand the Iraq war is immoral, wrong, unnecessary, wasteful, and has done far more harm than good. That kind of remark simply adds nothing to the discussion. You're free to continue with that kind of rhetoric, I'm just saying it's not particularly useful

I wasn't trying to be useful, I was trying to be silly. Have you been posting in this thread for a while? It swings both ways.

 

[speculawyer]

nm

 

[Gaborn]

I wasn't trying to be useful, I was trying to be silly. Have you been posting in this thread for a while? It swings both ways.

yeah, but everyone has certain lines they don't cross, and that's probably one of them for a lot of people.

 

[VanMardigan]

And now the thread has reached a new low. The most pathetic low imaginable. Let's ban this jackass, burn this page of the thread, and forget he ever said those absurd, soulless things.

 

[Mahadev]

Oh, Christ.

That's it. I'm out of here. This thread just reached an unbearable level for me.

Please don't leave man. What will we do in this thread without your well-thought arguments? Without "You're full of yourself", "Oh christ", "OMG you liberals", "You need to get out more" and other great arguments how will this thread continue? TELL ME HOW.

It's over guys. You might as well close this thread.

 

[minus_273]

is it wrong that i want her son to die in Iraq? i just want the reality driven home to her of what's actually happening abroad.

jesus. is this now bad poliGAF has gotten? is genuinely wishing the death of the child of someone you disagree with really acceptable behaviour?

 

[sevenchaos]

jesus. is this now bad poliGAF has gotten? is genuinely wishing the death of the child of someone you disagree with really acceptable behaviour?

One person says something and you equate it with everyone. Really?

 

[The Lamonster]

I'm sure it's been posted already, but the Gallup numbers for Congressional races are looking bad too. I'm so depressed.

what the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

 

[Diablos]

I'm sure it's been posted already, but the Gallup numbers for Congressional races are looking bad too. I'm so depressed.

What the hell? That's weird.

 

[bob_arctor]

jesus. is this now bad poliGAF has gotten? is genuinely wishing the death of the child of someone you disagree with really acceptable behaviour?

He speaks only for himself.

 

[Dolphin]

yeah, but everyone has certain lines they don't cross, and that's probably one of them for a lot of people.

A lot of people that are too sensitive. I wasn't the person that recommended her son die, I just joked around about her getting "beat up a little." That's no worse than anything Carlin, Miller, or Maher would say on any given show.

 

[stressboy]

jesus. is this now bad poliGAF has gotten? is genuinely wishing the death of the child of someone you disagree with really acceptable behaviour?

Judging by the responses I would say no, that is not acceptable behavior.

 

[Steve Youngblood]

jesus. is this now bad poliGAF has gotten? is genuinely wishing the death of the child of someone you disagree with really acceptable behaviour?

Okay, I'm not going to bother defending these comments, as they are indefensible.

However, isn't this a bit of an overreaction? You're using this as a condemnation of PoliGAF as a whole, when it was one person who said it. There would be more justification for this sort of criticism if the comment was met with people agreeing with that assessment.

 

[speculawyer]

...alternative energy, like solar, and wind, and biodiesel, and hydrocarbon.

Whoops. :lol

I'm guessing he meant hydro-electric . . . although I'm hoping he meant hydroponic.

 

[Gaborn]

A lot of people that are too sensitive. I wasn't the person that recommended her son die, I just joked around about her getting "beat up a little." That's no worse than anything Carlin, Miller, or Maher would say on any given show.

Yeah, I'm sorry I didn't see v1cious's comment first or I would've called him out on it primarily. As I said I just thought it was particularly tasteless and you're generally pretty decent and reasonable so it was a bit more surprising.

 

[Tamanon]

I'm guessing he meant hydro-electric . . . although I'm hoping he meant hydroponic.

Yeah, I'm not sure you can get much energy out of the hydroponic industry. Doesn't seem to foster much activity

 

[minus_273]

You know the government throughly checks in to comments like this made against potential candidates who would be in a high posistion of any branch of the governement. If the secret service or FBI comes out for a nice chat when they add you to the security list don't be surprised.

Viscious yes, wise no. Don't mess with protective paranoid authoritative states if you value your existence.

in a democracy you should protect the candidates. I disagree with obama but in no fucking way do i want him or his children to be injured in a terrorist attack. I also wouldnt tolerate threats against them. I doubt this comment will attract secret service attention but i think they have every right to investigate every possible threat. Did you learn nothing from RFK?

 

[polyh3dron]

is it wrong that i want her son to die in Iraq? i just want the reality driven home to her of what's actually happening abroad.

Did you guys hear that? That was the sound of v1cious getting partyv&.

 

[JB1981]

Question: who do you think knows more about foreign policy? Charles Gibson or George W. Palin?

 

[thekad]

jesus. is this now bad poliGAF has gotten? is genuinely wishing the death of the child of someone you disagree with really acceptable behaviour?

:lol So fucking sad.

 

[VanMardigan]

Yeah, I'm sorry I didn't see v1cious's comment first or I would've called him out on it primarily. As I said I just thought it was particularly tasteless and you're generally pretty decent and reasonable so it was a bit more surprising.

specu's covering his ass, but his post was ignorant as hell and highly offensive also.

 

[Gaborn]

specu's covering his ass, but his post was ignorant as hell and highly offensive also.

yep, that's also very true. Personally I don't worry much about it, I just PM amir0x and let him worry about it.