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PoliGAF Interim Thread of cunning stunts and desperate punts
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What?!? She sunk a town of less than 9,000 $20 million in debt. She drove a state run dairy into the ground so she could sell the equipment to a friend. She has an insane amount of earmarks in a state that gets huge boons from the oil companies. She diverted funds from the 'bridge of nowhere' to fund other projects...Basch said:
Her kind of experience is worse than no experience at all.
Zeliard said:
You know Im not a big McCain fan anymore, but in his defense (atleast at the start) he admitted to it and said the reason was because the country as a far majority disagreed with him and he was on the wrong side.
Im not saying if this was genuine or not and I am definitely not saying he is like this and not a complete blowhard. But would you rather have a public official continually spit in the face of public opinion or one who says "I was wrong according to you guys so I will support the alternative."
Consistency is overrated and not a politicians real job. Representing his constituents is.
This is a main link on the front page of McCain's website.
https://secure.donationreport.com/donation.html?key=I9LBRJ70SNSH
Their page still accepts donations just not under the normal campaign standard. Notice you can donate more than $2300?
It does say they are limited in how they can use the money but I like how their legalize has a grammatical error.
"Because the McCain-Palin Campaign is participating in the presidential public funding system, it may not receive contributions for the any candidate's election."
https://secure.donationreport.com/donation.html?key=I9LBRJ70SNSH
Their page still accepts donations just not under the normal campaign standard. Notice you can donate more than $2300?
It does say they are limited in how they can use the money but I like how their legalize has a grammatical error.
"Because the McCain-Palin Campaign is participating in the presidential public funding system, it may not receive contributions for the any candidate's election."
CharlieDigital
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NewLib said:
It's not about consistency. More like he didn't show good judgment and he didn't listen to his constituents before he took action.
smurfx said:alright i filled out the form online so i can get registered to vote. i didn't think i would register to vote but screw this i'm voting for obama even though he will probably win california without my vote but i want to make my voice known!
Good job. Don't take anything for granted!
at least your states helps the cause. I'm in ATL (and i know ATL is all obama), but damn georgia is deep south conservative.smurfx said:alright i filled out the form online so i can get registered to vote. i didn't think i would register to vote but screw this i'm voting for obama even though he will probably win california without my vote but i want to make my voice known!
Stoney Mason
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NewLib said:
We all made that argument in 2004 and were told Kerry was an unpatriotic flip-flopper.
watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDx80bnFrVs
just wow.... speechless.
just wow.... speechless.
BoboBrazil
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Cloudy said:
Atleast he will win your state. I'm in Texas and Obama has no chance at all of winning here...
Even if there's nothing down-ticket, use your vote to volunteer a census data point for people looking at the election map in 2010 and 2012. Oh, and speaking of 2010, that election will be just as important as this year's election because of redistricting.BoboBrazil said:
Zeliard said:
Who cares about what he believes. That is not his job. His job is to represent the people who are in his area. What he believes shouldn't be an issue. What his actions are the issues.
I don't care if someone is Pro-Life or Pro-Choice deep down. I care about how they vote now. Do I care if my CEO doesn't believe in some of the decisions the board passes down? No, I care if he can enact them anyway and get the job done.
Beliefs has no place in the world of public representation.
CharlieDigital
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NewLib said:
It reflects in his decision making. I would hope that he would have seeked the opinion of his constituency, you know, before he made up his mind what was best for them.
Stoney Mason
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NewLib said:
My point is
A.) One side argues one thing and does another.
B.) He flops on the wrong issues. Stay with a reasonable immigration bill. Drop the war at all costs platform.
polyh3dron
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Dear McCain and Palin: It's PUNDITS, not PUNDINTS.
Stoney Mason said:
No the problem is there is no right or wrong stance on 99.9% of issues. There are things I believe in and I will argue for as because I am a citizen and I have that right. However, its not the politican's job to fight for the RIGHT choice. He is there to represent. Its his job to reflect what the majority want. It doesn't matter if its right or not.
And I know this leads to tons of bad examples, but Im saying thats society's problem not the politician's. He has one function. Representation.
BoboBrazil
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maynerd said:
Fear mongering and mud slinging. It is what the RNC is best at...
Stoney Mason
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NewLib said:
Then if he's flipping every position to match Republican orthdoxy then he shouldn't call himself a Maverick. If he is flipping every position to match whatever the republican base wants reflected in polling data then he shouldn't call himself a reformer or a maverick. Because that is the oppsite of that.
I think it was a campaign thesis or something. cant confirm where it came from but I heard it was part of the RNC... in the youtube description "This "tribute" which served to only throw fear into the political discourse and frighten voters was shown at the 2008 Republican National Convention. Keith Olbermann spoke for many of us at the sickening images used for political gain. "
subrock said:
I heard this on the radio driving home from work and I started shouting at my radio because I was so disgusted. Seeing the video brings it to a whole new level of exploitation. This RNC has been beyond shameless in it's fear mongering and talking down to the American people. I'm just in awe that they have the gall to use such images for political gain, I don't know what to say or do beyond that except to hope that the American public has learned something in the last 4 years and won't fall victim to the same playbook again.
Stoney Mason said:
Im not arguing that. I agree he isnt a Maverick. But being a Maverick has no place in politics, unless you are talking about being a Maverick by fighting what the people want.
You take what I am saying is arguing for McCain. No. Fuck him, he doesn't give a shit about the public wants. He just wants to get elected. He doesn't care about change to make Washington a better place where the people voting have their voices heard.
You see its not one or the other. My point is that you can't fault a politician for being a politician. There job is to flip flop, because the public flip flops. Yeah Kerry got a raw deal, but it doesn't mean you can be like, "Fuck what the public wants. Just be consistent."
The saddest part about these conventions is that it reminds me that this people hardly know the way to create a sustainable state much dictate less the difference between a shiite and sunni. Why their different, what they believe in, how to implement a state and a democracy, if a democracy should be put into place at all, what type of democracy should be put into place, no strategy but all they tell me is that the fight must go on.
Stoney Mason
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NewLib said:
I'm not faulting Mccain in that sense. He is what he is. I fault him personally that I don't agree with his positions. I do fault the people both on this board and in the media that say the reason to vote for John Mccain is because he is a Maverick. If that is a credential then that credential has the right to be examined and scrutizined and asked about. If he is running and calling himself a Maverick then we have the right to ask him about his recent political career that doesn't show him to be much of one and why that is.
I am not sickened so much by the video as much as I am appalled by the fact that at least %50 of america is going to fail to see what is wrong with that video. a seriously heinous example of modern day propaganda. EVIL TOWEL HEADS WANT TO STEAL YOUR FREEDOM BOOGIEBOOGIEBOOGIE! (#3 the intimidator)Chiggs said:
smurfx said:alright i filled out the form online so i can get registered to vote. i didn't think i would register to vote but screw this i'm voting for obama even though he will probably win california without my vote but i want to make my voice known!
awesome. great feeling when you do this right? you realize its not just about you casting a vote, but the responsibility that comes with it of educating yourself and those around you on these matters.
Who's this bundler in the NeoGAF for Obama group?
http://my.barackobama.com/page/dashboard/public/gGGgYx
He's in 50 billion groups and he's really screwing around with our actual numbers.
http://my.barackobama.com/page/dashboard/public/gGGgYx
He's in 50 billion groups and he's really screwing around with our actual numbers.
Stoney Mason said:
I understand that. I guess my point is Im growing tired of people voting by parties.
Maybe I have this dream of political parties where they are like, "This is what we stand for..." and then the voters decide which one they like and vote for it. Then the parties FOLLOW THROUGH.
I would promote shorter terms because it would keep politicians honest to people's wants, but I Think it would impact getting things done.
So I don't know an answer. Maybe a national automatic impeachment clause. Where if your approval ratings goes under a certain number, you are gone.
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