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PoliGAF Interim Thread of USA General Elections (DAWN OF THE VEEP)
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laserbeam said:
so does the 'cult of obama' thing come from being popular in the US or in foreign countries?
people like you were throwing out this ridiculous insult way before he planned this trip.
btw. making the world happy with your country.. benefits your country as well. insulating yourself from the world has many negative repercussions.
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And it held about as much weight then as it does now.quadriplegicjon said:
Why even dignify it with a response?
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Thunder Monkey said:
true.
polyh3dron
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Yeah because he's NEVER said anything about how he intends to fix things, he just goes up to the podium, say "yes we can" and "change" and then leaves.laserbeam said:
Thunder Monkey said:
People worship the ground Obama walks on as if hes gonna enter the White House and the world is gonna become cotton candy and rivers of chocolate and free love. There is freakish cult level obsession with Obama on many fronts
Obama is a tool of the system like every other Politician. And like every Politician every 4 years when election time comes they promise everything you want to hear and deliver on basically none of it.
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Get out of here. Obama talks circles around McCain on actual policy, and especially foreign policy. And even though I'm not a fan of slogans (an unfortunate political necessity) at least Obama's are better than McCain's weak rebuttal "That's not change we can believe in" and repeating "My friends" every third sentence.laserbeam said:
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laserbeam said:
you are obviously just trolling now.
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Yep, totally true.laserbeam said:
He has secured the cotton candy vote.
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laserbeam said:
But he does it in style, McCain doesn't.
Seems an easy choice to me.
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McCain has a style.GenericPseudonym said:
It's called the "Get the fuck off my lawn!" style.
quadriplegicjon said:
Not at all.
Obama will become President and youll see Hes not gonna sweep into the White House and make the United States suddenly all sunshiney with the world. Iraq isnt gonna magically fix itself,Afghanistan is not gonna magically fix itself.
Islamic Extremists will continue to threaten security around the world. The World is a fucked up place and that is not t gonna magically correct it. The World will remain a fucked up place after we are all dead and buried.
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It seems the only people that believe the fluff are Obama detractors.laserbeam said:
polyh3dron
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laserbeam said:
Compared to what we've seen with Dubya this is accurate. Not literally, but in a matter of contrast.
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laserbeam said:
But maybe with a muslim president, they will think twice?
laserbeam said:
I don't think any of us think that he's some sort of magician or is going to 'fix' the world. He's just a better choice between McCain and Obama. Not the lesser of two evils sort of way though. I think he will have a positive effect on America. While I believe that McCain will not.
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laserbeam said:
sure..
Thunder Monkey
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Funny thing.
You'd think laser doesn't want people to have hope for the future. The future will most likely look like different shades of the present, but hope has never been a bad thing.
Well maybe for a pessimist it is.
You'd think laser doesn't want people to have hope for the future. The future will most likely look like different shades of the present, but hope has never been a bad thing.
Well maybe for a pessimist it is.
GrotesqueBeauty
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Dude, all candidates are equally bad, regardless of their positions. I say we just put a shaved baboon in office and call it a day. If you don't agree you're obviously giving Obama a rimjob.Thunder Monkey said:
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GrotesqueBeauty said:
Yay for cynicism! Because indifference is cool!
maynerd said:
Thats a fine belief too. Personally I dont find myself thrilled with either candidate. I just think there is a level of insanity in how some people treat Obama as if he is gonna save the United States and the World.
They say when your young your liberal then as you get older you turn conservative. I skipped the bullshit and took the view that niether spectrum can be trusted with the well being of the people.
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Have you seen the mans ass?GrotesqueBeauty said:
I take that as a compliment.
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Name one person that has said that.laserbeam said:
Thunder Monkey
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I already told you!maynerd said:
The Obama detractors believe this.
Or at least they believe other people believe this.
Either way I become aroused.
Maybe people are just thrilled to have a democratic candidate who's actually charismatic and has a chance to win the election after 8 disasterous years of a republican president. And by "maybe," I mean "Well duh,".laserbeam said:
Nobody (except a few random internet crazies) believes that Obama will be solving all of the world's problems. Some people like you, who are desperate to be the cynical rebels, seem to think that we all do, but we don't. So now that you're done showing us just how uninformed you are, can you stop trolling this thread?
Uh, okay. Well, thanks for sharing your wise views with us.laserbeam said:
polyh3dron
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So you're like Lou Dobbs then, criticize both sides without any better ideas except for stopping those damn mexicans from getting into the countrylaserbeam said:
Who? I've heard people say this for a long time - the whole Messiah meme - but I can't find any (aside from the fringe weirdos on the web, but there's those on all sides of everything). Even Obama's most ardent supporters have some issues with some of his positions, from FISA to gay marriage.laserbeam said:
GrotesqueBeauty
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Who? I always hear this regurgitated, but I've never met one of these supporters who expect him to wave a magic wand and solve all our problems. I think it's a projection from the opposing side, and that's it. I also think the whole "older people always get more conservative" argument is hackneyed to the point that it's embarrassing to hear. It's another one of those broad generalizations that in my experience doesn't hold water when you talk to people face to face.laserbeam said:
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polyh3dron said:
Well also shut down the ethnosociocentric elites.
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GhaleonEB said:
yeah. people like laserbeam are damn jokes. they have nothing constructive to say about the candidates, they cant form a coherent argument, so they just fall back on insulting the supporters of whatever candidate they dislike.
polyh3dron
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Who would YOU trust with the well being of the people then.. What would it take to pass your test?laserbeam said:
Until the government is held more accountable to the people rather then the people accountable to the government I would say there is no one you could trust.polyh3dron said:
One Side wants to nanny state the government while the other wipes its ass with the constitution. You have to ask yourself if this is what the Founders had in mind when they risked all for it.
GrotesqueBeauty
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I'm pretty sure your hyperbole was what they had in mind. Hamfisted generalizations and a holier than thou attitude towards everyone on all sides of every issue are the pinnacle of what the founding fathers intended.laserbeam said:
polyh3dron
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laserbeam said:
It's funny you mention that because in between saying "change" and "yes we can" Obama has mentioned quite a few ways that he wanted to make our government much more transparent and accountable to the people. Also, Obama has never spoke about running a "nanny state" like your old democrats would, he has stressed personal accountability in many of his speeches.
But how would you know that, all you remember of his speeches is "yes we can" and "change".
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laserbeam said:
then stop posting in this thread. in your own words, you dont care about any of the candidates running for presidency.. so stop insulting those that care about this election. all you are doing here is trolling .. by your own admission.
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And it's stuff like that, that makes me love you.:lolJayDubya said:
Thunder Monkey
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Big difference.besada said:
McCain would rather visit the Fudge Haus then the wounded troops.
polyh3dron
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GrotesqueBeauty said:
this.
polyh3dron
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What was this in response to? Did Obama screw up big time, did McCain actually do something good or was it both, because Obama's been ahead of McCain by a pretty good margin in most polls.Tamanon said:
polyh3dron
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Is that a landline-only poll?Tamanon said:
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