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PoliGAF Interim Thread of USA General Elections (DAWN OF THE VEEP)
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ViperVisor
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Week old nonsense on Morning Joe. Going to show the Obama ad that comes off the presses at 7 AM ET.
Worthless HIV/AIDS story on CNN. 'Prevention is the key' mention 10 times. No Wai! Did say US infections are up. Why not ask why?
A new study from the Centres for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) shows 40 per cent more people in America are becoming infected with HIV than experts previously thought.
Beady-dickhole-eyed Scarb has mentioned 'elitist' a dozen times so far in reference to Dems.
Worthless HIV/AIDS story on CNN. 'Prevention is the key' mention 10 times. No Wai! Did say US infections are up. Why not ask why?
A new study from the Centres for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) shows 40 per cent more people in America are becoming infected with HIV than experts previously thought.
Beady-dickhole-eyed Scarb has mentioned 'elitist' a dozen times so far in reference to Dems.
The Chosen One
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Where are all the 527s?
I know Obama can't play dirty politics due to his brand, but where are all the Dem 527s to do the dirt for him?
The negative politics seems like a one way street the last few weeks. It would be nice if McCain had to deal with frivolious negative ads too. McCain has made so many "gafs" that there's tons of material out there. You gotta give the Repugs credit, they know how to play dirty in a way the Dems seem in capable of doing.
I know Obama can't play dirty politics due to his brand, but where are all the Dem 527s to do the dirt for him?
The negative politics seems like a one way street the last few weeks. It would be nice if McCain had to deal with frivolious negative ads too. McCain has made so many "gafs" that there's tons of material out there. You gotta give the Repugs credit, they know how to play dirty in a way the Dems seem in capable of doing.
The Chosen One
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Phallic symbols.... :lol
It could be true, but still... :lol
Too bad by Bob being so insistent about seeing phallic symbols in the Hilton Obama ad, the rest of the points he was making got lost and no one on set took him seriously.
It could be true, but still... :lol
Too bad by Bob being so insistent about seeing phallic symbols in the Hilton Obama ad, the rest of the points he was making got lost and no one on set took him seriously.
The Chosen One
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SupahBlah said:
Who cares. By the time the candidates call them out on it, the damage will have already been done. Just like the whole "Obama didn't visit veterans because he couldn't bring cameras" line that the McCain campaign pushed. By the time they issued a correction (which barely anyone reported), the perception that Obama cared about himself more than the troops already got out there.
This is the essence of dirty politics. Again, it seems Dems are incapable* of doing this.
* Note I said "incapable", not "unwilling". I bet the Dems would love to do this if they knew how.
ViperVisor
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Your Abbreviated Pundit Round-up
They play dumb when any depth comes into a discussion or they never actually watched the ad like me. I've seen it but it is worthless so I don't bother to watch it like a film.
And they gloss over David Gergen's thought's. Joe saying he grew up in the south and Willie went to school there. Well that settles it if 2 middle class white guys say it's all good then I'm set. Gergen is a generation older than you so his perspective is different.
They play dumb when any depth comes into a discussion or they never actually watched the ad like me. I've seen it but it is worthless so I don't bother to watch it like a film.
And they gloss over David Gergen's thought's. Joe saying he grew up in the south and Willie went to school there. Well that settles it if 2 middle class white guys say it's all good then I'm set. Gergen is a generation older than you so his perspective is different.
ViperVisor
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Fucking tired of Pat being Joe's tag-team partner on half the days. Why are 3 other people even on the set. I've already stated the primary reason for Mika's presence in a previous pissy post of mine.
The Chosen One
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ViperVisor said:
Which is what?
ViperVisor
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The Chosen One said:
-Tight fitting top
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The Chosen One
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You know I've noticed?
Obama saying he's willing to comprising on Off-shore drilling was an excellent move. You can tell because the McCain campaign and surrogates aren't calling Obama a "flip-flopper" on this issue, which they easily could. Instead, they're desperately trying to keep him "opposed" to off-shore drilling. They really want Obama on the opposite end on this issue, the fact that Obama moved to the center on it is making them nervous. It could take the issue off the table just like Obama's vote on the FISA bill did.
Without off-shore drilling, the McCain campaign doesn't have any other advantage with the issues. The War? No. The economy? No. Taxes? The country isn't too concerned about low taxes this election and McCain undercut his own message by saying he'd leave all options on the table. Energy surprisingly was the only issue where Republicans/McCain were on advantageous side, mainly due to Dems being immovable on off-shore drilling.
Even if McCain manages to destroy Obama's character they still need to be able to latch on to at least one strong issue in their favor.
Obama saying he's willing to comprising on Off-shore drilling was an excellent move. You can tell because the McCain campaign and surrogates aren't calling Obama a "flip-flopper" on this issue, which they easily could. Instead, they're desperately trying to keep him "opposed" to off-shore drilling. They really want Obama on the opposite end on this issue, the fact that Obama moved to the center on it is making them nervous. It could take the issue off the table just like Obama's vote on the FISA bill did.
Without off-shore drilling, the McCain campaign doesn't have any other advantage with the issues. The War? No. The economy? No. Taxes? The country isn't too concerned about low taxes this election and McCain undercut his own message by saying he'd leave all options on the table. Energy surprisingly was the only issue where Republicans/McCain were on advantageous side, mainly due to Dems being immovable on off-shore drilling.
Even if McCain manages to destroy Obama's character they still need to be able to latch on to at least one strong issue in their favor.
The Chosen One
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Cheebs said:
She's also supposedly the "news" person so she handicapped a bit by having to pretend she's objective. She's also unfortunately not very smart or at the very least can't think quick enough on her feet.
that's because Obama phrased it correctly - he is still opposed to it, but willing to make a political concession to grease the wheels towards a comprehensive bipartisan energy policy. he needs both republicans and big oil to agree to this, and being completely obstinate won't help.The Chosen One said:
also, it's not flip flopping if it means appeasing Republicans.
edit: this headline is pretty humorous. look! McCain has come around to Obama's pro-drilling position!
ViperVisor
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scorcho said:
My thoughts have been the same. You want ANWAR? A portion of the money from it will go to green energy and protecting the rain forests.
Cheebs said:
Imus was at least a dick to everyone and would slam Bush and Cheney.
oh Kudlow, you finally showed your hand -
http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2008/08/kudlow---drill.html
add on top of this -
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/08/01/the-will-to-drill/
http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2008/08/kudlow---drill.html
add on top of this -
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/08/01/the-will-to-drill/
the chutzpah of it all is amazing. THIS .2% WILL REALLY DRIVE FUTURE TRADERS OUT AND WEEN OURSELVES OFF FOREIGN OIL!
Tyrone Slothrop
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thekad said:
WMDs
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Eric P said:
it's funny cuz it's true!
piggybacking off my earlier links to blog posts on offshore drilling, here's another good read from Jared Bernstein - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jared-bernstein/the-not-so-great-energy-d_b_116618.html
i'll expect SD to come here soon to repeat how 'owned' Pelosi was this weekend and how off-shore drilling really is the cat's meow.
i'll expect SD to come here soon to repeat how 'owned' Pelosi was this weekend and how off-shore drilling really is the cat's meow.
artredis1980
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can someone make a clip of obama with joker war paint on and using his own words "and" "here" "we" "go"?
artredis1980
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hey Gaffers, I want someone to help me amke the following comic, supporting Obama
it will copy Dark Knight's theme
Batman is Obama
Joker is McCain
Hillary is Rachel
Dent/2-face is Main Stream Media
Comm Gordon is Bloggers
Now take those characters, apply it to the dark knight storyline and say "here we go"
make it!
in the end, the people will chose Obama even after the battering he will take, McCain will be likely lose but will convert the MSM to his side and take thier reputation with him. the bloggers will be the ones to only have confidence in declaring Obama the winner.
it will copy Dark Knight's theme
Batman is Obama
Joker is McCain
Hillary is Rachel
Dent/2-face is Main Stream Media
Comm Gordon is Bloggers
Now take those characters, apply it to the dark knight storyline and say "here we go"
make it!
in the end, the people will chose Obama even after the battering he will take, McCain will be likely lose but will convert the MSM to his side and take thier reputation with him. the bloggers will be the ones to only have confidence in declaring Obama the winner.
The Librarian
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masud said:
He is for it, but only if we can find a way to store it. More or less, he is pro-Nuclear. However, no one will say that, because no one wants to store spent material in their back yard. Its a huge deal in Nevada for instance.
McCain is saying it, and my guess is its going to hurt him in NV.
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