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PoliGAF Interim Thread of USA General Elections (DAWN OF THE VEEP)
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Karma Kramer
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Jonm1010 said:
And yet... if he doesn't pick Clark... and picks someone with little foreign policy experience... the narrative will still be on "Fox News" that McCain is better on foreign policy.
For the greater majority of America who don't watch the news 24/7 and who take Fox News and most conservatively biased media outlets, with a grain of salt (independents and democrats)... Clark will be seen as a Vice Presidential candidate who seals the wound that Obama's inexperience could falter to another attack on America.
mckmas8808
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With no political experience.
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Obama is damned in the news no matter what he does. I think that Clark resonates properly to the voting public though. Wesley Clark is way more decorated than McCain is.
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mckmas8808 said:
So McCain is who you are voting for in this election? He has 20x more political experience then Obama.
Wait... whats with your avatar? This is confusing.
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APF said:
Mine now is too! WOW we agree.
Karma Kramer
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APF said:
:lol
I totally forgot about you APF.
I got to make sure to not spend much time (any) replying to your completely self-centered devil's advocate opinions from now on.
mckmas8808
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Diablos said:
While their candidate believes in what?
That isn't the point; they'll acknowledge that while also pointing out that Obama chose politics over his actual Iraq policy views, thus making him an ineffective leader, [insert Republican attack ad bullshit that actually rubs off on some people here], etc.mckmas8808 said:
Karma Kramer
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mckmas8808 said:
I'm adding you to my list as well.
Tyrone Slothrop
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Insertia said:
no, he's not. the vetters probably tossed him due to that gaffe of his a few months ago
Karma Kramer
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Remember the one time when Obama said he would "refine" his policies in Iraq and the right wing media exploded in calling him a flip-flopper. Can you imagine what would happen if he chose a Vice Presidential candidate that contradicted similar things.
The media would have a hay down.
The media would have a hay down.
Tyrone Slothrop
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when he said "being shot down in a war plane doesnt qualify to you be pres."
the controversy was stupid, because it's true. but, what can you do
the controversy was stupid, because it's true. but, what can you do
worldrunover
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scorcho said:
Saying being shot down in a fighter plane doesn't qualify you for being president.
worldrunover
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In McCain's townhall meeting today a question was asked if he could bring anything to true conservatives who long for smaller government and smaller debt. After a round of applause, McCain answered simply "yes" and left it at that. He then dangled justices over the crowd's head, fawning over Alito and Roberts and warning them of the alternative.
Of course this was all after recommending charter schools for everywhere in the country without a hint of how to pay for it, along with fixing social security and balancing the budget. Damn Obama and his baseless platitudes!
Oh wait.
Of course this was all after recommending charter schools for everywhere in the country without a hint of how to pay for it, along with fixing social security and balancing the budget. Damn Obama and his baseless platitudes!
Oh wait.
Tyrone Slothrop
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scorcho said:
well, yeah
he's my pick. i think he's arguably the smartest of the presidential contenders of the past primaries. it'd be a gamble because he has a big mouth. but just get axlerod to put a muzzle on him and we're good to go
PhoenixDark said:
But so has Barack Obama! But so has Barack Obama! But so has Barack Obama.
Keep smacking them bitches down, Wes!
Oh, I am a war refugee, does that give me a certain insight and makes me better on FP? I mean, after all, I've lived in three different countries throughout my lifetime.
Me > McCain?
Tyrone Slothrop said:
And I bet you that Obama and his campaign agreed 100% with Clark's statement internally. They had to denounce it publicly.
Tyrone Slothrop said:
Biden voted for the Iraq war. If Clark's gaffe is a no-go, then Biden's yes vote is a definite no-no.
SouthernDragon
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Look, Obama can do no right right now, with the media. He could pick Jesus Christ as his VP, have him return to personally accept, and the media would state the next day:
"Is Obama being presumptuous?"
"Is Obama being presumptuous?"
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speculawyer said:
I'm one of maybe 5 people in Arkansas who support Obama. Adding Clark to the ticket still won't stop it from being a blow-out. Even adding Clinton as VP wouldn't change that.
Wow, I haven't been following this week... Wesley Clark moved up the rankings??! What is this based on? I have been calling for him to have a bigger role in the party forever, including being the perfect presidential nominee they neglected to choose in 2004. He's the democrats ideal ace in the hole -- a liberal in conservatives' clothing. He brings so much needed appeal to Obama's ticket, more than any other candidate could bring besides Sam Nunn. Older, southern, military, a lot of people are familiar with him from his old job on CNN -- he's the ideal "traditional American" for all of these rural people who don't seem to take to new ideas very well. If he's on the ticket I'll be thrilled. Game over.
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Cyan said:
Most people never heard of Barack until 4 years ago as well.
Fun Factor
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Why would the democrats need a liberal in conservatives' clothing for VP.
Those hillbillys that won't vote for Obama sure as hell won't change their vote because some VP.
Obama should stick to not alientating his core base rather than pandering to the right wing "undecided" voters.
Those hillbillys that won't vote for Obama sure as hell won't change their vote because some VP.
Obama should stick to not alientating his core base rather than pandering to the right wing "undecided" voters.
speculawyer
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Well . . . maybe it could at least cause McCain to spend money there.ratcliffja said:
Alaska is definitely in play it seems.
FTWer said:
I'm not talking about converting conservatives, that's not going to happen no matter who Obama picks. I'm talking about the undecideds and independents, the people who basically decide every election. In general they (and the country in general) lean rightward, if you ask me, and I would assume research would back me up on that. Picking someone who could draw them in is a much better strategy than not picking someone who could draw them in. Maybe Clark isn't enough to sway the independents, but it's better to try than not try at all, it's that basic. Also, Obama wouldn't be alienating his base, Clark is no Weasel Lieberman. He's a solid democrat.
The theme of the VP speech was announced.VALIS said:
That led a lot of people to speculate that it will be someone with a heavy military service background. And the name of Westley Clark's PAC happens to be...Securing America's Future.
GrotesqueBeauty
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Lol, it would never happen, but an Obama/Powell ticket would end in a ridiculous landslide.sp0rsk said:
SouthernDragon
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ZealousD said:
How will middle America feel about Obama picking an Arabic Jew as his running mate?
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