The Librarian
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darthvaderyellingno.jpggrandjedi6 said:I finally watched that McCain ad I posted before. It goes after Obama for dropping the public finance agreement.
On another note: McCain ads have infected fivethirtyeight
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PoliGAF Interim Thread of USA General Elections (DAWN OF THE VEEP)
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grandjedi6
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Diablos said:What's the average anyway? There are too many "poll of polls" out there.
Day to day polling is pointless, we've all come to this conclusion by now (I hope). Obama has short periods of time where he's 9-10 points ahead, but I don't really know if that carries any weight. Realistically, they seem to be tied, sometimes Obama is a couple points ahead. And is that huge? Kerry was a couple points ahead most of the time IIRC, but we know how that movie ended.
I'm not saying "omg Obama is doomed", but I am concerned. It's hard not to be especially with the attack ads starting, and McCain resorting to such low tactics. The media lovefest over John McCain and his ability to connect with a lot more people than I initially thought in a year like this is a scary thing
You're not even suppose to pay that much attention to polls until after the conventions and first debate
Lazy vs Crazy
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It was in his book that he wrote to prep him for the 2000 presidential race, where he knew he needed the fundie vote.Clevinger said:
Agreed. But has there ever been an election with so much coverage? 2004 had a lot, but I don't think it was this crazy. A lot of people voted, too. This year is like a nonstop campaign. Barack has been through a lot up to this point, and it's not even the fall yet :lolgrandjedi6 said:
Obviously more people will pay attention when the conventions take place. I'm wondering how many people are paying attention right now opposed to other years when the election didn't really start yet, though.the disgruntled gamer said:
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The Librarian
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So what are the chances of Obama announcing his VP tomorrow?
Tyrone Slothrop
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grandjedi6 said:
yes. the outcome of the election will (very very likely) be drastically different from what they are now
Zabka said:
Yup, that's exactly it. And heaven forbid if McCain does get elected, those same people buying into the fears will sit there and complain about how awful things are, how things are the same and want something different....and can't understand how "The Maverick" (gag) let them down. Rinse. Repeat.
GhaleonEB said:
That's because Obama has class.
Keep in mind I don't really argue that, but at the same time, it would be interesting if there was data on how much attention was being paid to the candidates, debates, primaries, etc. prior to the fall in 2004 compared to today.
Look at how many debates there were this year alone.
grandjedi6
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the disgruntled gamer said:
The current rumor is that it will happen Wednesday since his schedule is still open for that day.
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NYTimes reporting on the cone of silence
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/18/us/politics/18mccain.html?ref=politics
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/18/us/politics/18mccain.html?ref=politics
grandjedi6
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meh, this is a stupid controversy to start since it can't be proven either way.Agent Icebeezy said:
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Oh my god, this election is going to be the death of me.
It could certainly be worse. I don't think it's a good idea to piss off the media. But hey, incognito's predictions are usually pretty accurate, so we'll just have to wait and see.Tamanon said:Because they've obviously been on his side this entire time
the 'controversy' is basically meaningless (oh no! McCain might have heard questions beforehand!), but this quote caught my eye for sheer chutzpah -
edit: ARG. DAMN YOU ERIC P
edit: ARG. DAMN YOU ERIC P
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12594.html
Er....McCain is complaining about NBCNews being in the tank for Obama.....based on.....something Andrea Mitchell said on Meet the Press as a pundit....
That makes no sense whatsoever.
Er....McCain is complaining about NBCNews being in the tank for Obama.....based on.....something Andrea Mitchell said on Meet the Press as a pundit....
That makes no sense whatsoever.
Eric P said:
This works great for everything:
The insinuation from the Obama campaign that John McCain, a former prisoner of war, has a terrible energy policy, is outrageous."
The insinuation from the Obama campaign that John McCain, a former prisoner of war, is a just like Bush is outrageous.
The insinuation from the Obama campaign that John McCain, a former prisoner of war, has an outdated way of thinking is outrageous."
"John McCain, a former prisoner of war"
Byakuya769
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AniHawk said:
John McCain is a great American who was a PRISONER OF WAR in service to this wonderful country. Frankly, even if he did cheat, he is a PRISONER OF WAR.
PRISONER OF WAR!!!!!!!!!11!!!111!
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Diablos said:
I think the president asking Biden to go over to Georgia bodes well if Biden is indeed the VP
People are wishy washy and hide things, yeah but to outright bluntly lie and say you never been vetted or spoken to vetters or will be at the convention is one step kinda too far. "I don't expect it" "You know, I am happy with what I am doing"...etc are the type of BS normally used.sp0rsk said:
This is the McCain campaign in a nutshell, ladies and gentlemen.
Distortion of the facts? Check.
Bringing up McCain's past as a POW despite McCain initially saying he didn't like to bring it up? Check.
The shots actually being called by people even less honorable than McCain? Check.
FitzOfRage
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Kind of ironic that being a prisoner of war becomes a get out of jail free card.
polyh3dron
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This is his problem...GhaleonEB said:
The Republicans will do ANYTHING to get elected but Obama has certain lines he will not cross which puts him at a disadvantage. Republicans LOVE going after an opponent's greatest strength and turning it into a negative by saying the most outlandish things (see: celebrity ads) and it usually works, regardless of how tasteless and deplorable it is. This plagiarism thing is Obama's opening to really go hard on McCain's use of his former POW-ness. He needs to take it IMO.
With all of these attacks the Repubs have gone on the offensive and have turned things around so that Obama is following their lead and he has to do something to change that.
By taking this high road all he's doing (in the minds of undecideds in swing states at least) is making himself out to be a pussy.
polyh3dron said:
This was my #1 concern about his candidacy. Talk about "changing the way we do politics" all you want, but know that the GOP will go into scorched-earth mode, and that they always win doing this. This "feel good" fluffy crap might get you through the hippie-dippie Democratic primaries, but it doesn't work this way in the generals.
Taking the high road gets us squat, and effectively letting the country have another Bush term is the epitome of "dishonorable."
I hope Obama has sharp daggers.
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