Steve Youngblood
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That's a terrible idea.polyh3dron said:I say fuck it, the gloves should be off. Hit McCain with the POW.
That's a terrible idea.polyh3dron said:I say fuck it, the gloves should be off. Hit McCain with the POW.
Tamanon said:From Drudgy:
How odd! What odd timing indeed.
And the central conceit of the whole Houses thing isn't that he has so many houses and is super-rich because of his wife, it's that his economic outlook is just different, that's one of the symptoms of it.
lawl :lolTamanon said:I think he was doing a Michigan joke.
Riggall...Rig all. awesome.kkaabboomm said:http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/08/21/ohio_voting_machines_contained.html
this is wrong on so many levels.
*ahem*mckmas8808 said::lol :lol McCain has to be a joke character right? How do you fake an anthrax attack after getting your ass whipped by Obama in one day?
I thought he was tuff.
polyh3dron said:I say fuck it, the gloves should be off. Hit McCain with the POW.
Scott32020 said:Drudge Report is reporting "McCain Office in Denver Receives Envelope with White Powder and Death Threat...Developing"
Comparing Obama to Britney and Paris was a terrible idea. All their attacks have been terrible ideas.Steve Youngblood said:That's a terrible idea.
lolworldrunover said:Scott32020 is not reading " PoliGAF Interim Thread of USA General Elections (NASA cuts taken off the table)"... Developing.
maximum360 said:Ahh CNN. Pushing the Ayer's story hard.
siamesedreamer said:
OUCH.siamesedreamer said:
worldrunover said:This Ayers ad bothers me. That's up there with Willie Horton in terms of misleading/playing on people's fears. They basically called him a terrorist.
Okay, I'll concede the point that the whole celebrity attack angle was dumb and perhaps even mildly offensive. Perhaps that should have sank his campaign and painted him as someone who would make completely arbitrary and baseless attacks.polyh3dron said:Comparing Obama to Britney and Paris was a terrible idea. All their attacks have been terrible ideas.
When playing with his GI Joes, Obama let the bad guys win.maynerd said:Obama was 8 years old playing with GI Joes Ayers when was doing nasty things....
Obama born and raised to be a terrorist CONFIRMED.
tanod said:*waits for independent Democratic group to educate swing voters about the Keating 5*
The difference is that McCain was actually reprimanded while Obama had absolutely nothing to do with Ayers or Rezko's wrongdoings.
GhaleonEB said:When playing with his GI Joes, Obama let the bad guys win.
Yes I did, but that only played out the way it did because he never repeated it and Obama repudiated it. If they were to keep repeating it it would have played differently.Steve Youngblood said:Okay, I'll concede the point that the whole celebrity attack angle was dumb and perhaps even mildly offensive. Perhaps that should have sank his campaign and painted him as someone who would make completely arbitrary and baseless attacks.
However, you CANNOT attack someone's status as a war hero for being a POW. Did you not pay attention to what happened to Wesley Clark for simply making an flippant remark that argued that getting shot down in a plane doesn't qualify one to be president?
They need to give a response to that ad.the disgruntled gamer said::lol @ CNN. Their headline is "Obama's past comes back to haunt them." They are so full of shit.
OUCH.
That's a really good ad. The story is fairly complex, but the ad does a good job of simplifying it (and twisting the story to make Obama look like a terrorist.) That's going to seriously scare some people.
The main problem is that it's so blunt... more effective ads are ones like the wolves ad or the 3am ad are the ones that are subtle, but seem to trigger fear in people.
Doesn't matter. They need to respond to it. If I were to say the one thing that could handle these types of ads: Satire. Satire satire satire satire. Make fun o fthe ad, and make it obvious.maynerd said:Obama was 8 years old playing with GI Joes Ayers when was doing nasty things....
Obama born and raised to be a terrorist CONFIRMED.
Steve Youngblood said:Did you not pay attention to what happened to Wesley Clark for simply making an flippant remark that argued that getting shot down in a plane doesn't qualify one to be president?
No. Neither Obama nor anyone directly tied to the Obama campaign should go anywhere near saying anything that could be interpreted as an attack on his service. It would be a catastrophic mistake.polyh3dron said:Yes I did, but that only played out the way it did because he never repeated it and Obama repudiated it. If they were to keep repeating it it would have played differently.
Yeah but the whole point is to make baseless attacks that require an exhaustive response to explain why they're baseless. If you attack McCain on something that's true he just says "Yes, I did that and I apologize". People hear Obama try to refute these claims that are baseless to begin with and they tune it out. They need to make some baseless claims against McCain that spin a small truth so that it takes an exhaustive response to refute them, and then people think the accused is trying to weasel their way out of it.The Chosen One said:McCain's Keating scandal seems much worse to me because McCain was actually involved himself. It's not just guilt by association.
Probably. But it cements the point that McCain's record IS a sacred cow.maynerd said:Honestly that was complete BS. Wesley Clark said the truth and it was blown up by the media, mccain and obama.
Steve Youngblood said:No. Neither Obama nor anyone directly tied to the Obama campaign should go anywhere near saying anything that could be interpreted as an attack on his service. It would be a catastrophic mistake.
Tamanon said:
Brutally full of inneundo bullshit.siamesedreamer said:
I doubt McCain has even held a football.Tamanon said:*image*
http://cache.deadspin.com/assets/images/deadspin/2008/08/covers.jpg
Who holds a football like that?
TheKingsCrown said:Doesn't matter. They need to respond to it. If I were to say the one thing that could handle these types of ads: Satire. Satire satire satire satire. Make fun o fthe ad, and make it obvious.
If people don't already understand this stuff, they're probably beyond help.worldrunover said:Also, there's a large gap in perception and reality that Obama isn't hitting on... McCain says he will follow Osama to the gates of hell... yet he still agrees with the Iraq war, which essentially handcuffed us from actually getting Osama... so why isn't there a connection made where Bush/McCain has basically let Osama go free 7 years after the 9/11 attacks?
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siamesedreamer said:
RubxQub said:Obama needs an ad that is just all irrefutable facts about McCain:
- First marriage ended due to his adultery
- Will tax people making less than 250K more harshly than Obama
- Has been voting in line with Bush at an increasing rate, currently sitting at 100% for the current year
- Graduated 5th from last in his schooling
- Crashed 5 different planes (multi-million dollar machines)
Seriously...what would they say? That stating facts is evil?
This is America. That will get him bonus points.RubxQub said:- Graduated 5th from last in his schooling
RubxQub said:Obama needs an ad that is just all irrefutable facts about McCain:
- First marriage ended due to his adultery
- Will tax people making less than 250K more harshly than Obama
- Has been voting in line with Bush at an increasing rate, currently sitting at 100% for the current year
- Graduated 5th from last in his schooling
- Crashed 5 different planes (multi-million dollar machines)
Seriously...what would they say? That stating facts is evil?
If people are so outraged by John Edwards' recent adulterous situation, surely they can't turn a deaf ear to McCain's.teruterubozu said:I don't know, those kinds of character attacks like past adultery, crashing planes and educational failings usually don't mean shit in the end. I mean look at Bush - his past is all kinds of fucked up.
Are people or was it more of the fact the media kept it on tv for hours at a time to have a story to talk about. Most people I spoke to didnt give a shit one way or an other.RubxQub said:If people are so outraged by John Edwards' recent adulterous situation, surely they can't turn a deaf ear to McCain's.