maximum360
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Freedom = $1.05 said:
Zogby's right....but instead the landslide would be in Obama's favor.
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Zogby's right....but instead the landslide would be in Obama's favor.
Tyrone Slothrop
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lol zogby
ryutaro's mama
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Not a lot of time to sift through, what is the latest?
Insane Metal
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When is this? Tomorrow? How many hours to begin? I´m not american and I dunno how those time differences work loll
Vestal
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GhaleonEB said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0663DHLr58
Thats all you need to catch up to the last umm 5 pages i think.
Diablos said:
Just a little worried considering they went for Bush in 2000 and Kerry won by about 10k votes.
My thoughts on the battleground states (because I was so good on my analysis about the debates):
-Michigan is out of it. I'm not sure why it was a question, but it's going blue.
-Pennsylvania is the same as Michigan. It looks close, but I think it's gonna go to the Democrats.
-Colorado was on the edge, but I think it's pulled away too far. I doubt the Republicans take it this year.
-Minnesota's worrisome. I don't think it'll go to the Republicans, but the shift is bothering me.
-New Hampshire's pissing me off. Go blue, dammit. Freakin' rich people.
-Viriginia's slowly pulling away for Obama. I think there's more than a chance that it'll go blue this year. This really depends on the young people and black people triumphing over the old racist white people.
-North Carolina's inching toward Obama. I don't think he'll get it, but the fact that there's a chance is great.
-Ohio. I've lost faith in Ohio. I don't think they'll deliver. They don't need to, but it'd be great if they did.
-Indiana is a lot like North Carolina. It's great that it's forcing McCain to spend money there, but I don't think they'll go for Obama this year.
-Florida. Fucking Florida (sorry Floridians). I think this is like Michigan but in reverse. There's no way it wasn't going red this year.
-Nevada. Nevada's a battleground state. So awesome. I think if NM and CO can go blue, that this can too.
-Missouri's gonna go to the Republicans in the same way PA will go to the democrats. I'd absolutely love to be wrong though. Nice enough that it's a battleground state like NC, VA, and NV though.
NullPointer
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viciouskillersquirrel said:... I just want someone to hold me and tell me that everything is going to be alright
We're all going to die.
Deus Ex Machina
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This is leadership. McCain shows up to completely derail a package that was already agreed upon. Good going McCain!
http://www.reuters.com/article/vcCandidateFeed7/idUSTRE48P05S20080926
http://www.reuters.com/article/vcCandidateFeed7/idUSTRE48P05S20080926
Beer Monkey
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AniHawk said:
With the Obama ground game, Ohio is in play.
DeathbyVolcano
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beermonkey@tehbias said:
Southern Ohio is like an entirely different state. And it has Cincy. Ohio's still going red.
The Chosen One
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This is too rich. McCain is advocating a plan that asks for more deregulation???
:lol
He's playing with fire. If this doesn't get sorted out by tomorrow, then he'll have a strong hand in blowing up the deal. He'll also look foolish showing up to the debate if there is still no deal in place.
Furthermore, if it gets to Monday and there's still no deal and the Dow tanks, McCain will have a huge egg on his face for delaying the process. Especially if it seems McCain is emboldening the house Republicans.
McCain seriously has to hope it gets resolved tomorrow. But now I wonder if the Dems will give him the satisfaction of riding on a white horse to the debates. I bet the Dems will stall the bill through at least the weekend.
This is precisely why McCain and Obama should have kept the distances from the negotiations.
:lol
He's playing with fire. If this doesn't get sorted out by tomorrow, then he'll have a strong hand in blowing up the deal. He'll also look foolish showing up to the debate if there is still no deal in place.
Furthermore, if it gets to Monday and there's still no deal and the Dow tanks, McCain will have a huge egg on his face for delaying the process. Especially if it seems McCain is emboldening the house Republicans.
McCain seriously has to hope it gets resolved tomorrow. But now I wonder if the Dems will give him the satisfaction of riding on a white horse to the debates. I bet the Dems will stall the bill through at least the weekend.
This is precisely why McCain and Obama should have kept the distances from the negotiations.
Beer Monkey
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Deus Ex Machina said:
A package that tons of economists says isn't going to work.
I'm glad it's derailed. Time is a blessing for those who realize this is a bad deal.
On the other hand, McCain's plan is shit.
Maybe we'll be lucky enough to get Obama for president and a plan that is better for the country.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Insane Metal said:
The debate starts in roughly 23 hours and 30 minutes. 9pm EDT
speculawyer
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:lolkaching said:
He'll probably get a similar result.
PhoenixDark
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reminds me of back in the day when my mom would tell us we could order fast food only if we all agreed on where to get it from, and someone would ruin it at the last fucking minute
*long debates, bargaining, finally agreement*
mom: ok, what have you agreed on
me, two brothers: kentucky frie-
brother: TACO BELL
*long debates, bargaining, finally agreement*
mom: ok, what have you agreed on
me, two brothers: kentucky frie-
brother: TACO BELL
Tyrone Slothrop
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Crisis said:
what mccain did was distract everybody, so instead of anybody rising or dropping in the polls everything is going to stagnate IMO
but i guess it's irrelevant since the debates could be a complete game changer... and mccain probably has more devious distractions up his sleeves
Beer Monkey
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gkrykewy said:
There isn't time to debate, but there's lots of time for naps.
I hate to throw water on this, but as the organizer of Nintendorks for Obama, I've witnessed that over the past few weeks I haven't gotten the email notifications of donations. I wrote the Obama team about this issue, and they must have finally released all the email notifications that hadn't been delivered.StoOgE said:
Soooo... while there are a lot of obviously generous GAFfers, they likely didn't all just donate now.
speculawyer
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If he wins, he is gonna drive the government into bankruptcy.beermonkey@tehbias said:
The Librarian
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Witch!gkrykewy said:
ViperVisor
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Keith condenses McCain's campaign down to 5 sec.
beermonkey@tehbias said:
I have to agree here, i just don't think bailing out America's Richest at the expense of the middle/working class is a good plan. I can only hope they will come to their senses and see this will damage the economy further in the long run. Its a patch-job on a burst water main, it'll stop leaking for a while, but when it blows the second time, its going to be much worse imho.
Insane Metal
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Thanks dude.Grizzlyjin said:
The Librarian
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PhoenixDark
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Diablos said:
Agreed. That surveryUSA poll from today is an indicator of what people think about this shit, but once this hits the media machine who knows
MaddenNFL64
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Yep Olbermann knows what we know. McCain's campaign stratrgy - Change the subject, make your own headlines & run out the clock.
Fragamemnon
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http://www.politico.com/blogs/thecrypt/0908/Graham_Treasury_plan_is_dead.html?showall
Lindsey Graham (R-SC), one of McCain's biggest allies, just came out and said that the bailout bill is dead.
Lindsey Graham (R-SC), one of McCain's biggest allies, just came out and said that the bailout bill is dead.
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