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You know, an Obama win would lead to a thousand years of darkness. GOP is losing their fucking mind and would continue to do so.
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PolliGaf 2012 |OT5| Big Bird, Binders, Bayonets, Bad News and Benghazi
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Secretary of State Jon Husted has acknowledged that a data-sharing glitch between his office and the Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles likely caused some absentee-ballot applications to be wrongfully rejected because county boards did not have up-to-date information on registrants addresses.
how very convenient
Gotta double down in the face of adversity!
And lol @ that Wisconsin quote. Again, Marquette, which nailed the Walker election/recall, has him up 8!
mckmas8808
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So there's no way we are talking about Nate Silver like this in 2016 right? He's just a numbers guy so he shouldn't turn into a media dolt like Chuck has.
Lost Fragment
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So what channels are you guys gonna be tuned to on election day? I'll be able to livestream Al Jazeera and the BBC right? I've pretty much given up on the news media in this country.
Kai Dracon
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Let them go mad. The more insane the right wing acts, the more insane right wing constituents act, the faster it drives a younger generation away from their reality tunnel.
Hell, it seems the entire reason why Ryan was picked is that he provides a superficial appearance of youth, vigor, rationalism, and common sense. Even though he's as hollow as as the Good Year blimp and does in fact know nothing.
I bet there's going to be a whole lot of stories like this coming out of Ohio and Florida Tuesday night. Hopefully O can wrap up Virginia and NH early.
cartoon_soldier
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As long as Obama's ground games turns out the WI voters, they will be good.
Of course, WI choosing to go red in 2010 and then not recalling Walker is a bit worrying. Dems kept saying for both those cycles that their turnout operation will tip the scales. Now Republicans are saying the same about it lol
Of course, WI choosing to go red in 2010 and then not recalling Walker is a bit worrying. Dems kept saying for both those cycles that their turnout operation will tip the scales. Now Republicans are saying the same about it lol
BertramCooper
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Has Ryan done anything to benefit Romney's campaign? Anything at all?
He didn't give Romney much of a boost after his selection, he gave a pretty weak performance in the veep debate, and I really don't think he's making Wisconsin any more competitive than it would have been otherwise.
speculawyer
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That seems like at admission that they botched Ohio so they are making a hail mary pass at Wisconsin . . . which won't work.
The Librarian
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I don't know, Cheebs. You tell me.
Fragamemnon
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The reason why we all liked Chuck four years ago because he was a mostly realistic stats guy delivering news on how fucked McCain was. Now he's a full blown teevee pundit, which is like the most useless thing ever in an election season where there are better avenues of analysis and you can skip the punditry entirely and just watch the election from purely a data-driven standpoint.
Nope. If anything he has been a needless drag on the campaign.
Switching between Fox for the lulz and CNN to see their stupid hologram device and Wolf keep calling it a tie.
TacticalFox88
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Kind of sucks being in a Foreign country. I don't get ANY news broadcasts from the states. All online. :/
I'm sure CNN will have an online stream of their coverage.
electricpirate
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Their state polls in 2008/2010 never did. Their final numbers where something like 4% to McCain on average.
Exit polling said that there were a good number of "don't recall Walker" voters that supported Obama. So Romney would need a more Republican electorate than the recall to win.
It's like Willy E Coyote realizing there's no ground under him.
Comedy Central.
CNN to watch Wolf cry wolf
Rocket Scientist
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Are John Stewart and colbert doing anything that night?
ClovingWestbrook
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Hello my friends. Is this going to be a Mittmentum day or a Barry Bad News day?
I predict before Obama has won. Easy money.
electricpirate
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Anyone know who's having a good stream? I don't have cable here. I guess I could run an antenna to the window...
BertramCooper
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Pretty sad that Paul Ryan is the best the GOP can do to appear youthful.
Ryan is a 75-year-old trapped in a 40-year-old's bird-legged body.
I haven't heard, but they usually do.
Yeah, they'll be live at 11pm EST. Last Presidential election they combined shows and did them both together.
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ClovingWestbrook
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Btw, know whats funny? If Romney somehow did win, the Dems keeping the Senate will make it impossible for Repubs to get rid of Obamacare. The GOP was all confident they could repeal it through a reconcilliation bill by having 51 votes in the Senate. Thats not happening (most likely) so either way Obamacare is safe.
Jason's Ultimatum
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What was Silver's prediction in 08, and what was the actual result?
cartoon_soldier
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Good except IN I think
The NYT had a recent article highlighting the failure of the surge to thwart the insurgency in Afghanistan. Not only have we failed to reduce their potency, but they're even expanding into previously secure provinces. And their strength should only increase as ISAF forces withdraw and the ANSF take command of security.
The province highlighted in the article is particularly problematic because it evinces the insurgency's suffusion from their Eastern strongholds. Thus, they've not only consolidated operations in Wardak and Ghazni provinces, they're extending into Central Afghanistan. But it's not solely the Taliban which is expanding. The Haqqani's seem to be extending into central Afgahnistan as they have perpetrated most of the audacious attacks in Kabul. And even smaller groups such as Hizb-e Islami are reportedly operating in the interior. So not only do the insurgents retain their bases in the South and East, they're preparing to challenge the central government in the forthcoming years. As our presence gradually diminishes, the situation could deteriorate precipitously. I'd prefer we accelerate our withdrawal as our efforts are profitless and wasteful. But it seems the 2014 framework remains the plan.
The province highlighted in the article is particularly problematic because it evinces the insurgency's suffusion from their Eastern strongholds. Thus, they've not only consolidated operations in Wardak and Ghazni provinces, they're extending into Central Afghanistan. But it's not solely the Taliban which is expanding. The Haqqani's seem to be extending into central Afgahnistan as they have perpetrated most of the audacious attacks in Kabul. And even smaller groups such as Hizb-e Islami are reportedly operating in the interior. So not only do the insurgents retain their bases in the South and East, they're preparing to challenge the central government in the forthcoming years. As our presence gradually diminishes, the situation could deteriorate precipitously. I'd prefer we accelerate our withdrawal as our efforts are profitless and wasteful. But it seems the 2014 framework remains the plan.
I'll watch C-SPAN primarily but also check the foreign stations to gauge their reactions.
Not only is Paul Ryan going to lose this election (probably), and became a national laughingstock with that charity sham, he lost a debate to a guy who Republicans have been framing as a mental midget for years. He lost handily to Joe "gaffemachine" Biden.
He's done. If he's lucky, he'll still get to be the GOP's budget boy.
Jason's Ultimatum
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ClovingWestbrook
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Eh, 4 years is a very ling time.
LegendofJoe
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I usually listen to PBS for my news, but on election day I will certainly have FoxNoise on. The bitterness, despair, and denial will be a thing of glory. It should not be missed.
I like this idea
49 out of 50
Fragamemnon
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does anyone still have the youtube where karl rove was talking and brit hume interrupted him to let him know that Fox was calling Ohio for Obama in 2008? I used to have the youtube made from dailykos for Election Night 2008 and would watch it from time to time because the silence and despair they conveyed was so very very magical.
Even after Obama crosses 270, Wolf will STILL call it a tie (or close).
cooljeanius
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Which state did he miss? Also, what's the 1 state that he could get wrong this time around that would lead to an Obama loss?
Not really. He's not very charismatic, he's not a good speaker, and now he's going to be a loser. The big boys, Christie, Bush, Rubio, will crush him if he tries to run for pres. Being VP is this guy's only hope of having a chance nationally. He'd be the Pawlenty of 2016.
Jason's Ultimatum
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Either way, it's a win-win for Fox News: If Obama wins, they can continue the attacks against him and DEMs, and if Romney wins, they defend him and continue to attack DEMs.
PhoenixDark
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Good points but I tend to believe his allies will argue he was muzzled by Romney, and I'm sure we'll get some behind-the-scenes reports saying that in the coming weeks (regardless of who wins). Ryan is still loved by the WSJ, Kristol, and the other members of the GOP brain trust.
IMO the biggest factor will be that Ryan's Medicare budget didn't hurt Romney. Polls continually show voters trust Obama more on Medicare yet also show the elderly sticking with Romney by large margins. That bodes well for Ryan's future.
The biggest hurdle will be that the idea of Ryan is bigger than the politician/man. He's just not any good at campaigning apparently. Contrast that to Christie, who may be the second best active politician in the country. Ryan is boring on the stump and never sounds genuine; you can tell by his face that he just isn't concerned about anything outside of cutting government in painful ways
Indiana. Ohio.
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