talisayNon
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last month's numbers were bad
this month is good despite the uptick in unemployment.
this month is good despite the uptick in unemployment.
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PolliGaf 2012 |OT5| Big Bird, Binders, Bayonets, Bad News and Benghazi
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The Librarian
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Fox isn't talking about it.
Fox isn't talking about it.
They're trying to get the underemployment numbers.
They have to wait until the Gop tells them how to handle it.Fox isn't talking about it.
cartoon_soldier
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Guarantee you that Romney runs that 0.1 uptick of UE all weekend long.
The UE rate is higher than when Obama took office is he will run on
vas_a_morir
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Fox isn't talking about it.
Gotta find the best angle of attack.
Joe Shlabotnik
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Half-way decent and a complete non-factor electorally.
That's it, kids, no surprises left. Home stretch for real now!
That's it, kids, no surprises left. Home stretch for real now!
Officerrob
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The revisions are the big deal here, that's another +80k jobs
Also, unemployment rate of those with a four year degree is now 3.8%, go to school!!
Also, unemployment rate of those with a four year degree is now 3.8%, go to school!!
Mgoblue201
Won't stop picking the right nation
Looks like public sector jobs fell by 13,000, unfortunately. They had grown for several consecutive months. Private sector growth was 184k.
Delusibeta
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Fox isn't talking about it.
Dull surprise, they already used the "numbers were cooked" argument last time round, and the increase is negligible in the face of the new job number.
The Librarian
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Half-way decent? This is a good report when you factor in the revisions.Half-way decent and a complete non-factor electorally.
That's it, kids, no surprises left. Home stretch for real now!
Going to be very hard to spin the 0,1% change. I guess the only angle is that market is trying to recover faster but Obummer is slowing it.
Not too hard. They just have to say "It rose up to 7.9! This is outrageous!" They don't have to say where it rose up from. Leave that up to low information voters' imaginations.
Joe Shlabotnik
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Half-way decent? This is a good report when you factor in the revisions.
I just mean in the broad sense, we're not exactly in a hiring boom. The trend is good though.
ryutaro's mama
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Going to be very hard to spin the 0,1% change. I guess the only angle is that market is trying to recover faster but Obummer is slowing it.
Not gonna be hard to spin at all. Very simple math for the campaign trail: UE is higher than when he took office (all while convienently ignoring all the ubstructions to the Jobs bill) and it went UP from last month.
That's an easy spin job.
Randolph Freelander
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Half-way decent? This is a good report when you factor in the revisions.
That is if you look deeper than the rate. The superficial takeaway is the unemployment rate slightly went up. "Are we on the right path to recovery?," and all that.
Now, whether or not the electorate and, particularly, the soft-commits and undecideds take a deeper look at the numbers, who knows.
Officerrob
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Not gonna be hard to spin at all. Very simple math for the campaign trail: UE is higher than when he took office (all while convienently ignoring all the ubstructions to the Jobs bill) and it went UP from last month.
That's an easy spin job.
This is what they are going with, it has begun
Officerrob
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Lmao @ Fox. They reported the numbers with no comment and literally said, "lets get back to Libya"
They have not received their talking points from the Republican party yet, give them time
Rocket Scientist
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So basically the unemployment rate is the same as when he took office, but there's about 4/5 million less people working or how many?
The Librarian
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They won't, but these numbers won't change anything.That is if you look deeper than the rate. The superficial takeaway is the unemployment rate slightly went up. "Are we on the right path to recovery?," and all that.
Now, whether or not the electorate and, particularly, the soft-commits and undecideds take a deeper look at the numbers, who knows.
Rocket Scientist
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They're too busy working their dayjob /Obama's America.They won't, but these numbers won't change anything.
Has Obama broken even on jobs lost/created for his term yet? And I mean altogether, including private jobs lost/ gained, and government jobs lost/gained.
Yes, I think he's +100K now for the term in the private sector (or maybe overall?).
Government alone he's gotta be way down.
Has Obama broken even on jobs lost/created for his term yet? And I mean altogether, including private jobs lost/ gained, and government jobs lost/gained.
Net gain
Randolph Freelander
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Has Obama broken even on jobs lost/created for his term yet? And I mean altogether, including private jobs lost/ gained, and government jobs lost/gained.
I believe he got his head above water a couple of months ago, correct?
I believe he got his head above water a couple of months ago, correct?
This month is "officially" a gain during his term. A few months ago were talking about the coming Feb adjustment +300k
Rocket Scientist
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Net gain, really? Wow, ignore my previous comment. That's good.
ryutaro's mama
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Now imagine if the Republicans actually thought about Americans (and didn't play Partisan Games) and signed the Jobs bill.
Now, Obama may get re-elected and they will have held those jobs hostage for absolutely nothing.
Now, Obama may get re-elected and they will have held those jobs hostage for absolutely nothing.
Inertia is a hard concept to grasp for some.i like the talking point going around of " we spent a trillion dollars in stimulus and we're .1% above the unemployment Obama started with"
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/02/us-usa-economy-jobs-idUSBRE8A106620121102(Reuters) - U.S. employers stepped up hiring in October and the jobless rate ticked higher as more workers restarted job hunts, a hopeful sign for a lackluster economy that has dragged on President Barack Obama's reelection chances.
Employers added 171,000 people to their payrolls last month, the Labor Department said on Friday. The government also said 84,000 more jobs were created in August and September than initially estimated.
The jobless rate edged a tenth of a point higher to 7.9 percent, but that was due to a surge of workers back into the workforce. Only people who have recently looked for a job can count as unemployed.
Rocket Scientist
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The right has it way too easy when it comes to those things. I'm really surprised the American public hasn't eaten it up much more. After Bush's re-election I expected the worst from the electorate.i like the talking point going around of " we spent a trillion dollars in stimulus and we're .1% above the unemployment Obama started with"
vas_a_morir
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Inertia is a hard concept to grasp for some.
I've tried to explain this to my conservative family. (They wouldn't be my friends by choice if they were this obtuse) and they just don't get it. Truth is, they don't accept the premise he's American to begin with, although I think they are just trolling on that point.
Black Republican
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the prince says:
Reince Priebus @Reince
The unemployment rate is higher today than when Obama took office, w/fewer people in the workforce. We cant afford 4 more yrs of this.
Hot damn. 171k is pretty solid for jobs growth.
Has this been posted yet?
http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-co...akes-big-lead-over-mourdock-148090.html?hp=r1
The Tea Party will have come full circle if Mourdock loses what probably would have been a safe Republican senate seat if Lugar had gotten through the primary.
Has this been posted yet?
http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-co...akes-big-lead-over-mourdock-148090.html?hp=r1
Politico said:Democratic Rep. Joe Donnelly has jumped to a double-digit lead over Republican Richard Mourdock in the Indiana Senate race, a development that makes the GOP climb to the majority even steeper.
A new Indiana Battleground Poll, conducted for Howey Politics Indiana and DePauw University, found Donnelly up 47-36 percent, with Libertarian candidate Andrew Horning pulling 6 percent of the vote. Donnelly's 11-point lead is a huge increase from the 2-point advantage that the same poll showed him holding in September.
The results strongly suggest that Mourdock's support has eroded after his controversial remarks last week that God intended for pregnancies to occur after rape. The GOP has been spending big to save his candidacy, with outside groups pouring in about $4 million in just the last week alone.
The Mourdock campaign is downplaying the numbers and released an internal poll Friday morning showing the Republican up 2 points over Donnelly.
The Tea Party will have come full circle if Mourdock loses what probably would have been a safe Republican senate seat if Lugar had gotten through the primary.
Fox news and Steve "Douchie" got butt-hurt by Christie, so now they are going to focus on frustrated folk who will complain about FEMA not helping them soon enough.
Expect interviews of poor white folk in front of their once-standing homes crying, screaming and condemning Obama and Christie.
Expect interviews of poor white folk in front of their once-standing homes crying, screaming and condemning Obama and Christie.
Mgoblue201
Won't stop picking the right nation
It's so easy to forget that we were losing 700,000 jobs a month by the time the stimulus was passed. I mean that was what, ten years ago? It's understandable that no one remembers.i like the talking point going around of " we spent a trillion dollars in stimulus and we're .1% above the unemployment Obama started with"
Fox news and Steve "Douchie" got butt-hurt by Christie, so now they are going to focus on frustrated folk who will complain about FEMA not helping them soon enough.
Expect interviews of poor white folk in front of their once-standing homes crying, screaming and condemning Obama
fixed. Hannity was already saying "Obama's Katrina" last night
Rocket Scientist
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What would the unemployment rate be if government had grown as under Bush?
Bulbo Urethral Baggins
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Trying to spin these numbers is sad
Unemployment rate increases slightly and the number of unemployed Americans stays the same at 12.3 million, and you guys are spinning it as good news for Obama. Talk about desperation....
Told y'all it would go up. God, it's not easy being right all the time.
What would the unemployment rate be if government had grown as under Bush?
The common assertion is that it would be a point lower (U3 @ 6.9) without public sector losses.
ryutaro's mama
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What would the unemployment rate be if government had grown as under Bush?
Joke post? HLS (including the TSA) was a HUGE expansion of government jobs.
Black Republican
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the missed BLS 200k+ numbers gets added next year right?
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