There is one, but it's moving a bit slowly at the moment. Things should heat-up soon though.
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PolliGaf 2012 |OT5| Big Bird, Binders, Bayonets, Bad News and Benghazi
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There is one, but it's moving a bit slowly at the moment. Things should heat-up soon though.
ErasureAcer
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Already is. Check the OT.
I just conducted a poll with a different electorate and Obama's winning in a landslide. Funny how that works.
Booker? A mayor from Newark is not going to win the nomination.
Squirrel Killer
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It's bullshit that some polling places are so inefficient, but I don't know that a federal law is the right way to go about it (see post title.) People just need to be more vocal to their state and local officials (who coincidentally, are probably more likely to respond) to get their shit together. Voting should take 15 minutes, 30 tops.
Indeed. I've lived in an urban setting all my life (although not dense enough for some of the partisans here) and I think the longest I had to wait was 20 minutes the one election the county auditor tried to push electronic voting machines on us. Once I checked in, they steered me to another line for the electronic machines, but I just asked for a paper ballot and was out in another 5 minutes.
It actually took me about 20 minutes to wait in the early voting line here in New Orleans.
Turnout is markedly up. My best friend at work tells me that a lot of his friends and family are taking this election very personally after watching so much of the shit slung at the President on a daily basis over the past four years, so turnout being up kinda makes sense.
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Yeah, all of Florida has been plenty vocal. You know what Rick Scott's reply was? "Too fucking bad."
Aaron Strife
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Too bad about Arizona. Maybe when McCain's seat is up.
I'm personally thinking 55 seats for Democrats in the Senate, a gain of 2. Nate has Democrats picking up Indiana, Maine, and Massachusetts while losing Montana, Nebraska, and North Dakota, which would keep the numbers where they are now. However ND, MT, and Nevada are all very much winnable and I have reason to believe his model lowballs all of them - Montana because Tester actually DOES lead in the polls, but the state fundamentals weigh down his numbers and put Rehberg in the lead, North Dakota because many of the polls from that state have been internals or private polls that show Heitkamp leading but Nate doesn't include, and Nevada because everyone calls Nevada wrong it seems.
I'm personally thinking 55 seats for Democrats in the Senate, a gain of 2. Nate has Democrats picking up Indiana, Maine, and Massachusetts while losing Montana, Nebraska, and North Dakota, which would keep the numbers where they are now. However ND, MT, and Nevada are all very much winnable and I have reason to believe his model lowballs all of them - Montana because Tester actually DOES lead in the polls, but the state fundamentals weigh down his numbers and put Rehberg in the lead, North Dakota because many of the polls from that state have been internals or private polls that show Heitkamp leading but Nate doesn't include, and Nevada because everyone calls Nevada wrong it seems.
Well, my 10 minute wait is even on election day after work hours. Just boggles my mind how some states do such a shitty job of creating enough polling places and being efficient in getting people through
Of course, Minnesota has basically no red tape at all. You say your name, sign your name, go vote, and youre done.
AZ Ouch for Senate
Never really believed that there was upset potential in AZ for that senate seat. Would've been nice, but oh well.
gutter_trash
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they are more likely to place a Tea Party nut in his place when that day comes
I guess it depends if you have various laws to vote on. Some states have put to many on that people have to take a lot of time to read though. I think Florida has purposefully done that this year. There really should be two lines. One to vote and once you are done you move on to the next line to vote on those other issues. That way if one doesn't care about them can move on and those that do can stay and vote on them. This way the actual election voting can move a LOT smoother and quicker.
Aaron Strife
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In 2016 if Hillary runs and Obama is reasonably popular? I'd think the Democrat would have a decent chance.
gutter_trash
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I was taking about McCain's senate seat in Arizona
Yup. I could see 2016 being an incredible Democratic year if the recovery takes off and more than 10 million jobs are created. Another wave election.. especially with the right nominee.
Yup. Palin already bought a house in Scottsdale.
gutter_trash
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the last time we had economic prosperity, the voters got lazy and gave us the Florida recount hell with Bush v Gore. We got 8 years of Bush afterwards.
I believe that when things get comfy and the economy shines... voters tend to get lazy and allow Republicans to come in
As my Maw-Maw used to say.. if our political system is like a circus, then Democrats are the guys with the shovels walking behind the Elephants.
I'm shocked that more folks don't recognize this. But then again, I think about it some more, and I'm not shocked.
A lot of people I know in NJ are complaining about the speed of services. They are right, they pay the highest property taxes yet get shit service. I would never buy a home here. The high taxes are a direct result of the gluttony of public workers and their unions. If you don't believe me go ask some residents in north NJ.
By the way if you got even plates, my local gas station 2 miles down the road is open and has a line of only 5 cars.
By the way if you got even plates, my local gas station 2 miles down the road is open and has a line of only 5 cars.
Squirrel Killer
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What did Ken Detzner say? What did the various county Supervisors of Elections (the people for whom efficient elections are their one fucking job) say?
If you didn't like what they said, why doesn't anyone run against them? I would think, "Tired of standing in line? My one promise is that you won't have to wait more than 30 minutes to vote." would be a powerful campaign slogan.
reggieandTFE
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My wife waited an hour to vote early in Chicago yesterday. People are still excited about the home town guy.
eBay Huckster
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tell me more about the people you know
ClovingWestbrook
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I will work for you but i require 3 months of vacation every year but I promise that I will do a great job.
speculawyer
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Rick Scott is a total douche. I hope lots of cranky old people are stuck in long lines and it hurts their arthritis and whatever old person ailment (without killing them). They need to literally feel the pain of their decision.
White, Indian, Jewish, Asian people from a variety of backgrounds, my black neighbors with an Obama sign on their window, and some of my friends' parents.
Aaron Strife
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Yeah that's what I mean. Hispanic growth + popular Democrat at the top of the ticket without any of the baggage of the incumbent could turn Arizona blue, along with its Senate seat, which is up in 2016.
If McCain's still going by then, it could hold, though I don't think he's very popular there anymore either.
As far as Senate races go, it's also the class of 2010, so there could be a lot of vulnerable Republican-held seats - IL, PA, NH, OH, FL, NC, WI, AZ, KY etc.
Of course, 2012 was supposed to be an easy year for Republicans based on the same logic, that Democrats did so well in 2006. It's too far out to prognosticate.
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ClovingWestbrook
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They are really nice people. The wife bought 2 iPad 3s when I bought mine and that's how we met when picking up the packages.
ClovingWestbrook
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Did you ask her how long she had been on unemployment up to that point? Also, is their last name Black? I have seen quite a few black people who go by the name 'the Blacks'. I wonder if its a slang thing or their actual last name.
So you refused to speak to your black neighbors until you were forced to in an iPad line?
CoffeeJanitor
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Same here. Never really seen any long lines around here at all and I'm in a more urban area. Also, we don't even have early voting!
Dr. Pangloss
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I don't know how the Republicans can keep lying to themselves. They claim that the electorate is different in their modeling, but no independent polls are backing them up. You can only deny reality for so long till it bites you in the ass.
Suppression has pissed people off, and they're gladly lining up to vote.
Black is not a deragotary term. It's less stupid than African American which assumes all
black people are Americans.
Also I don't know why you're implying I am racist where I am not. I told you that I'm pro Obama already.
AZ Ouch for Senate
We'll see. I'm still confident of a Carmona win here. We're GOTV very strong, lots of contacts yesterday & today. No one can say we're not trying.
empty vessel
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It isn't "micromanaging" to have federal laws governing federal elections. Nor to have a federal agency oversee the election, including having the responsibilities to purchase and provide adequate voting machines, ensure their adequate distribution, and ensure the existence of enough poll workers to facilitate timely voting. States are budget constrained, and will inevitably skimp wherever they can. The federal government has no such limitations. Ensuring smooth voting should be one of the federal government's highest priorities, given that voting is what provides the very legitimacy of democratic governments.
I did not have much conversation with any of my neighbors until that incident with her. I wasn't forced to say anything to anyone. Our building is such that we use different elevators even though our apts are next to each other.
I'd have to make 2 elevator trips to go to her unit and she would do the same.
Now, the white woman who lives above us is a total bitch who won't even say hi to us.
Detzner isn't elected, I don't think, and the local officials have been much better in general but don't have a great deal of autonomy. How should a local official actually go about reducing waiting times that much?
rohlfinator
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Did they get the black iPad 3 or the white one?
ClovingWestbrook
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I dont think you're racist. I think you're a fine fella. I also believe you're very astute in realizing that US workers are lazy and spoiled. I mean they should be thankful they even have a job and shouldnt expect to receive a wage that provides for their family. We should be like those in China and just take anything and work 18 hour days for a few dollars. And whats the deal with child labor laws. Seesh. Truly terrible.
Speaking of Sandy..
I wonder if people are really dumb enough to really believe this.
(Don't answer that.)
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This ice in my veins has been here for a long, long time. Feels good to be so chill.
http://www.salon.com/2012/11/04/sunday_best_dont_let_the_gop_blame_sandy/
I wonder if people are really dumb enough to really believe this.
(Don't answer that.)
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This ice in my veins has been here for a long, long time. Feels good to be so chill.
Hopefully he can do better when McCain finally fucks off.
gutter_trash
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Romney taking advantage of the Philly area of PA being affected by the storm by reaching out to the rural areas of PA
Just like China is an extreme case, so is the USA in the other direction. There is room for somewhere in the middle, look at Germany.
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