Support NeoGAF

[HylianTom]

A 2-3 point PV Obama win is looking more and more likely.

Yup. I've given-up on the idea that it'll be a split. It looked like a real possibility.. and then the national polls caught-up with the state polls. While the comedy (along with the opportunity for the NorthEast, West, and Midwest to tell the Republican South "fuck you") would have been wonderful, I'm going to enjoy the idea of Obama having a larger win to point to. I'll also enjoy telling my Republican friends and family just how out-of-touch they are with the rest of the country once we get some good regional numbers.

What's especially remarkable is that Ohio seems to be tracking above national polling numbers. More specifically, it seems like when Obama and Romney are tied, Obama is outperforming his national polling numbers by anywhere from 1 to 3%. That might not seem like much, but it's an incredible change, and it has me wondering: is this specific to this election, or has a genuine shift occurred in Ohio where we'll see it repeated in future elections?

I'm skeptical of a true shift/realignment in the state, but on the off chance that this has indeed happened? It'd have monumental implications for electoral math from here on.

 

[zero_suit]

I wrote up a post on why I endorse Barack Obama for a second term.

Read it; I think I did pretty well with this. It might even be better than a few endorsements that people got paid to write.

Excellent article, Puddles.

 

[ryutaro's mama]

Maddow clip. It's just funny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=O4EqY-mjaaw#t=225s

She was on fire that night.

 

[The Librarian]

I wrote up a post on why I endorse Barack Obama for a second term.

Read it; I think I did pretty well with this. It might even be better than a few endorsements that people got paid to write.

Good write-up.

O-47, R-49 I'm expecting from them.

And I still think Obama's winning this state.

I wish I shared your confidence, hun.

 

[Kai Dracon]

I keep on reminding my older Republican relatives:
"every four years, the electorate gets about 3 or 4% less white. Your party is driving at top speed towards a brick wall. You will have to change, or you're destined to go the way of the Whigs."

It scares the absolute shit out of them. They're losing "their" country.

Something something, agent smith, something something, inevitability mr. anderson.

But this is what happens when you live your entire life inside a bubble, believing in a massaged fiction of what your country is and what really makes it up. As someone I know said a few months ago "it's always something to be there to witness the death throes of culture's life story".

 

[Rhomega Beta]

So many polls, it's like everyone gets polled every 5 minutes.

 

[Angry Grimace]

husted can't control virginia.

I'm really baffled why Husted isn't in a jail cell.

 

[el retorno]

WTF. I just saw an ad for bing advertising the fact you can manipulate your search results to be from "right" or "left" sources.

That will do wonders for our political discourse.

So many polls, it's like everyone gets polled every 5 minutes.

I've not been

 

[AlteredBeast]

Yup. I've given-up on the idea that it'll be a split. It looked like a real possibility.. and then the national polls caught-up with the state polls. While the comedy (along with the opportunity for the NorthEast, West, and Midwest to tell the Republican South "fuck you") would have been wonderful, I'm going to enjoy the idea of Obama having a larger win to point to. I'll also enjoy telling my Republican friends and family just how out-of-touch they are with the rest of the country once we get some good regional numbers.

What's especially remarkable is that Ohio seems to be tracking above national polling numbers. More specifically, it seems like when Obama and Romney are tied, Obama is outperforming his national polling numbers by anywhere from 1 to 3%. That might not seem like much, but it's an incredible change, and it has me wondering: is this specific to this election, or has a genuine shift occurred in Ohio where we'll see it repeated in future elections?

I'm skeptical of a true shift/realignment in the state, but on the off chance that this has indeed happened? It'd have monumental implications for electoral math from here on.

The fact of the matter is that a good Republican candidate would have won this election, but the electorate didn't want a good candidate, they wanted an echo chamber for very poor ideals that are frankly untenable in the rust best and throughout the country that isn't A) Evangelical and/or B) Racist/Anti-Intelligence.

Obama is only beating a clown, liar, Mormon, 1%er, Northeasterner by like 3 to 4% max. Even a GWB in 2000 would probably beat Barack this time around.

 

[RustyNails]

I'm really baffled why Husted isn't in a jail cell.

Because the whole state apparatus is Republican dominated.

 

[gcubed]

WTF. I just saw an ad for bing advertising the fact you can manipulate your search results to be from "right" or "left" sources.

That will do wonders for our political discourse.



I've not been

bing has to do something to be relevant

 

[The Librarian]

husted can't control virginia.

I think Obama's margin in Ohio is large enough to be safe from any shenanigans.

 

[Piecake]

I'm really baffled why Husted isn't in a jail cell.

Didnt a judge site him for contempt? or am i just making that up?

 

[Angry Grimace]

I think Obama's margin in Ohio is large enough to be safe from any shenanigans.

I mean, sure, but he's clearly trying to flat out rig the election.

Didnt a judge site him for contempt? or am i just making that up?

He was going to because Husted basically stated he planned to ignore a Federal Court Order, but Husted backed down. The problem here is that Husted is going to throw votes out without the voter even having the ability to know their vote is not going to be counted since the poll workers can't help.

 

[Tendo]

NC up next? Come on folks, don't let me down. Let's do this!

 

[Clevinger]

I'm not sure. On the one hand he cares about his public image, on the other he'll of just wasted 7 years of his life and potentially tens of millions of dollars of his own money over that same span.

Way more than 7 years if him trying to get into the senate and getting the governorship were solely used as stepping stones toward the presidency.

I think he'll be gracious though.

 

[SmokeMaxX]

WTF. I just saw an ad for bing advertising the fact you can manipulate your search results to be from "right" or "left" sources.

That will do wonders for our political discourse.

Lol that's awesome.

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

NC up next? Come on folks, don't let me down. Let's do this!

NC is gone man.

 

[bananas]

NC is gone man.

NC will never be gone! Not as long as those who remain are loyal!

 

[Tendo]

two more days. I can taste it.

NC is gone man.

I know. I just want to have hope that I'm not entirely surrounded by Fox News watching bigots.

Ha. Who am I kidding. Nvm.

 

[PhoenixDark]

Okay, I'm back to Diablos-mode:

http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/11/04/14922984-ohios-husted-launches-11th-hour-scheme?lite

D:

40k absentee ballots were thrown out in 2008 due to "problems." What's to stop 100k from being thrown out this time, or for provisional ballots to delay election results until late November. I'm telling you guys, something is wrong here. Husted seems to have a clear, blatant plan and nothing has stopped him so far.

 

[jamesinclair]

Nc is gone......for Romney

 

[AlteredBeast]

Democrats should have won the last 5 straight presidential elections. No viable third party candidate this time around to steal all of the far-left votes this time around, RE: Nader.

 

[norinrad]

Paul Ryan reminds me of that "smart" dude that would screw you over for a promotion lol

ALSO: +2 for Obama. Early voted in GA

He's not smart though, he never has been and will never be. Only idiots consider this liar an intellectual.

 

[PhoenixDark]

I think Obama's margin in Ohio is large enough to be safe from any shenanigans.

Only due to absentee ballots, which can be discarded. I think you're missing the point here. If you lower Obama's lead in EV, he loses simply because he's down so much among election day voters.

 

[AlteredBeast]

40k absentee ballots were thrown out in 2008 due to "problems." What's to stop 100k from being thrown out this time, or for provisional ballots to delay election results until late November. I'm telling you guys, something is wrong here. Husted seems to have a clear, blatant plan and nothing has stopped him so far.

Regardless of what happens to to Ohio, Obama is not losing the race. Even if Romney defies all odds and wins Ohio, seeing as it is the true battleground state that seems most out of reach for him right now, Obama is going to pull off a surprise and steal a red-purple state this time around. He isn't losing this race.

 

[AniHawk]

Only due to absentee ballots, which can be discarded. I think you're missing the point here. If you lower Obama's lead in EV, he loses simply because he's down so much among election day voters.

not if it's a measly 3 points like what ppp suggests.

 

[The Librarian]

40k absentee ballots were thrown out in 2008 due to "problems." What's to stop 100k from being thrown out this time, or for provisional ballots to delay election results until late November. I'm telling you guys, something is wrong here. Husted seems to have a clear, blatant plan and nothing has stopped him so far.

PD, you're not telling us anything. This is simply the last reason in a long list of wrong reasons from you as to why Romney will win.

 

[B-Dubs]

I know. I just want to have hope that I'm not entirely surrounded by Fox News watching bigots.

Ha. Who am I kidding. Nvm.

You have to BELIEVE! That or just drink their salty tears. Sometimes salty tears just has to be enough

 

[Tendo]

You have to BELIEVE! That or just drink their salty tears. Sometimes salty tears just has to be enough

I'm drinking tasty beers right now. Between work and this it is about time I start killing my liver.

 

[markatisu]

Only due to absentee ballots, which can be discarded. I think you're missing the point here. If you lower Obama's lead in EV, he loses simply because he's down so much among election day voters.

I think Diablos hijacked PD's account

 

[Kusagari]

I have absolute faith in Virginia right now.

We don't need Ohio.

 

[metalslimer]

Only due to absentee ballots, which can be discarded. I think you're missing the point here. If you lower Obama's lead in EV, he loses simply because he's down so much among election day voters.

Oh shut it.

 

[Puddles]

Excellent article, Puddles.

Good write-up.

Thanks, guys.

I think what you wrote is probably all valid, but nothing about it would make me want to read it. We all know the reasons why people should vote for Obama over Romney (just like we all know in our hearts why people SHOULD, but never will vote for Jill Stein) and that is enough for me. Unless you are talking about something outside of the obvious (marriage equality, repeal DADT, stimulus, push for higher taxes, etc.) it would be better suited to be distributed as an op-ed to your local paper (or papers). I used to write blurbs for the editorials page every once in a while and a lot of times they would get published.

Understandable. I've had it up to here with this election as well. I just thought some people might get a kick out of reading one by a fellow PoliGAFer.

 

[Link]

I think Diablos hijacked PD's account

No, that sounds about right.

 

[Oblivion]

Mitt Romney to America: That's A Nice Country You Got There. Be A Shame If Something Happened To It

 

[StopMakingSense]

Fuck y'all I was right!

@ppppolls: Since a tie is like kissing your sister...our final North Carolina poll is Romney 49.4, Obama 49.2

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

Gaborn.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=43972722&postcount=59

Goddamnit.

 

[metalslimer]

Fuck y'all I was right!

@ppppolls: Since a tie is like kissing your sister...our final North Carolina poll is Romney 49.4, Obama 49.2

Holy shit. I still expect it to go red though.

 

[Puddles]

This thing is done. The lean-Mitt states are closer than the lean-Obama states.

 

[Tendo]

Fuck y'all I was right!

My gosh. My state. I have hope in you yet.

NVM - McRory leading 50-43. GUESS I WON'T BE TEACHING IN NC MUCH LONGER.

 

[Hobbestetrician]

This thing is done. The lean-Mitt states are closer than the lean-Obama states.

Exactly. If Romney is having a difficult time holding onto North Carolina, there is no hope for any of the other states.

 

[gcubed]

there is nothing you can put on PDs avatar that will reflect the sigh of relief from everyone here that he is done with his idiocy.

 

[RustyNails]

Wow, Obama holding a rally in Ohio right now? This is crazy. Measely, update!

 

[HylianTom]

@ppppolls:

Since a tie is like kissing your sister...our final North Carolina poll is Romney 49.4, Obama 49.2

 

[AlteredBeast]

Wow, Obama holding a rally in Ohio right now? This is crazy. Measely, update!

I thought Obama was done campaigning in Ohio as of Thursdayish?

 

[Piecake]

Exactly. If Romney is having a difficult time holding onto North Carolina, there is no hope for any of the other states.

But, but, I thought George Will said Romney will win Minnesota?!?!

 

[Stinkles]

Goddamnit.

I disagreed with him on his approach to that ONE thing and I always wished he'd see eye to eye with me and others on the logic, but I always liked him as a poster and a person and if that's true then I am genuinely sad he never got to see that thing work out. And it will, starting with my State on Tuesday. So he never agreed with me on how to get it done, but when I voted Yes, I thought about Gaborn. :-(

Commend his soul.

 

[BobTheFork]

Goddamnit.

uhh, holy shit. Does anyone know what happened to him?
Didn't see eye to eye with him but fuck that.

 

[Puddles]

there is nothing you can put on PDs avatar that will reflect the sigh of relief from everyone here that he is done with his idiocy.

I'll take suggestions for PD's avatar in my inbox. I'm not great with photoshop, so if anyone wants to collaborate on the visuals, that would be awesome.