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PolliGaf 2012 |OT5| Big Bird, Binders, Bayonets, Bad News and Benghazi

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teh_pwn

"Saturated fat causes heart disease as much as Brawndo is what plants crave."
Haha coulter said Romney is so likable.

Both predicting Romney win now. Coulter says Ohio not needed. She has him winning Wisconsin.

Oh man she's acting like its a done deal. Screw the polls she says. Oh my god Bradley effect!!

I'm dying.

I just set my DVR to record FNC tomorrow. I recommend you all do the same to wean off the hopium later this week.
 

HylianTom

Banned
Reading Free Republic right now is like opening a window into a parallel universe:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2955407/posts

It'll be nice to see how they react on this rare occasion where the right wing bubble around them finally pops.

Indeed. I've been posting over there for the past few days, gaining trust, letting them get used to seeing my name. My registration date is over 4 years old, so they won't root me out easily. :)
 
Obama leads in most of the polls in Florida released in November. At least among those on 538. Couple ties too plus the national election movement.
 

Mgoblue201

Won't stop picking the right nation
Okay those PPP polls must be pretty heavily weighted in Nate's model. How the fuck is Florida lean Obama?
Obama is up by 0.5% in adjusted polling average, which takes into account things like national trends and house effects. The positive move toward Obama in national polls probably accounts for most of this. Also, it's more like a tossup than a lean.
 

Slime

Banned
Rachel Maddows opening was amazing. I don't have a link but EVERYONE needs to see it.

I just wish Obama's campaign highlighted those accomplishments more. I don't think this race would have been nearly as close had the Obama of 2008 came back and drove home all he's done.
 

Godslay

Banned
I don't understand why you guys think it's impossible for it to go blue. The polling has consistently shown it as a toss-up state. There's nothing to be surprised about.

I agree. It's also encouraging (although some what anecdotal), that we are seeing people itching to vote in the area. I think it will be very close, but will ultimately go blue.
 

Tristam

Member
There's no turning back for Silver now, his reputation is completely on the line. I expect him to be wrong about at least two states even if Obama wins.

Fortunately, from a political prognostication perspective, PD has no reputation on the line because it was buried long ago under an untold number of failed predictions.
 

mdrudge

Neo Member
Romney 315 Obama 223

http://washingtonexaminer.com/baron...ney-wins-handily/article/2512470#.UJUNnMXA_Lt


Ohio (18). The anti-Romney auto bailout ads have Obama running well enough among blue-collar voters for him to lead most polls. But many polls anticipate a more Democratic electorate than in 2008. Early voting tells another story, and so does the registration decline in Cleveland's Cuyahoga County. In 2004, intensity among rural, small -town and evangelical voters, undetected by political reporters who don't mix in such circles, produced a narrow Bush victory. I see that happening again. Romney.
 
Romney 315 Obama 223

http://washingtonexaminer.com/baron...ney-wins-handily/article/2512470#.UJUNnMXA_Lt


Ohio (18). The anti-Romney auto bailout ads have Obama running well enough among blue-collar voters for him to lead most polls. But many polls anticipate a more Democratic electorate than in 2008. Early voting tells another story, and so does the registration decline in Cleveland's Cuyahoga County. In 2004, intensity among rural, small -town and evangelical voters, undetected by political reporters who don't mix in such circles, produced a narrow Bush victory. I see that happening again. Romney.
Hahaha PD gets his talking points from drudge. Hahahaha



Anyway silver said Obama gained 1.5 in national polls today. Gallup was four. This is a big shift.
 

Kai Dracon

Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Reading Free Republic right now is like opening a window into a parallel universe:




http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2955407/posts

It'll be nice to see how they react on this rare occasion where the right wing bubble around them finally pops.

Shit like that rocks Poe's law so fucking hard. I did say goddamn.

It's SO HARD, even based on the experience I have with people like that, to not believe a lot of those people are professional trolls riling up the conservative webspace for their own enjoyment.

The way they're framing stuff is more or less a perfect mirror projection - assigning all the attributes of the right's low information voters, with their "gut feelings" and religious-messianic attachment to their icons and hopefuls. Meanwhile over here in reality-land, I don't think I've ever met a single democratic leaning person who is not very worried about Romney winning, or who thinks Obama has it easy. Much less Obama is a "messiah".

On the other hand, maybe every word they say is typed in true faith. After all, the Fox news and right wing radio consortium has been trying to frame Obama since day one as a "new age religious movement" for whatever reasons. Perhaps as a way to help throw a scare into conservative religious voters - rile up an extra reason to fear Obama's otherness. He's not just a black muslim gay socialist - he's a new age pagan religion too!
 

bananas

Banned
Sorry dude, but you're bananas.

My prediction from two months ago was every '08 state but Indiana. NC looks like it's Romney's, but still close enough that a good GOTV effort can turn the tide by just enough. Unlikely, but not impossible.

Florida, however, has been going in Obama's direction for the past week or so. I believe he will win the state by a point over Romney.
 

Amir0x

Banned
I just want to say that, as far as I am aware, Nate Silver's prediction model has so far not got any race wrong that was better than 90 or so chance...
 
When have I been wrong, outside of Avatar and Hillary losing the primary? I'm one of the most accurate prognosticators on the internet (not counting those that do it for a living)
I shouldn't do this, but...

You were also wrong about Inception, and I'm pretty sure during the debt-ceiling fiasco, you said Obama would throw the EPA and Planned Parenthood under the bus.

Also, summer would be "The beginning of the end" for Obama, and you were sure Romney would be leading sometime in September.
 

B-Dubs

No Scrubs
Oh god, you guys need to see this. It's got me rolling, I might die :lol

my prediction:
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48 hour ban if I get anything wrong.

From the election thread.
 

Y2Kev

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009
Sam still has Florida in white. Nate is really going all in. Will he update one final time tomorrow afternoon?
 
I'm not getting my hopes up about Florida, but I would so love it for it go to Obama, if only to stick it to it's governor.

Either way, FL volunteers should still be proud of all the hard work they've done.
 

Jak140

Member
Indeed. I've been posting over there for the past few days, gaining trust, letting them get used to seeing my name. My registration date is over 4 years old, so they won't root me out easily. :)

Haha, is that you? As Kaijima said, that is such a pitch perfect mirror of reality, it's hard to believe it's not a troll.
 
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