Listen to these people. Intrade doesn't make any damn sense. Gallop polls come out showing Romney +7 and nothing moves. Other polls come out showing Obama +5 in a swing state, and Romney's stock goes up. It just isn't logical.
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PolliGaf 2012 |OT5| Big Bird, Binders, Bayonets, Bad News and Benghazi
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Why risk Vegas when you can get free money on Obama?
If you consider NC safe for Romney, NV safe for Obama and assume that Wisconsin is fool's gold for the Republicans, Obama has 253 EVs to Romney's 206. That leaves CO, IA, OH, NH, VA, and FL. If Obama wins JUST Ohio or Florida and loses the rest, he wins. If he wins Virginia + any one other swing state he wins. If he wins Colorado, Iowa, and New Hampshire while losing Ohio, Virginia, and Florida, Obama still wins the election.
Sorry, here it is:http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/10/obama-says-kids-know-romney-is-dishonest-147184.html
I don't think this will play well, if the press latches on to it. Even though he's not saying it directly, he pretty much is and that's not very presidential or polite. So late in the game, things like this can switch the minds of frail independents who are turned off by harsh language. I bet Obama thought he was off the record.
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
Just can't see this being this close. Obama isn't winning by a mere 10-15 EVs. Going to be more like 25 or 30, IMO. Might just be my true colors showing through, though.
The Lamonster
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nvm! thanks for the bullshitter link
matthewwhatever
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He and Obama have both requested to be on at halftime. They interviewed Obama and McCain in 2008, so I don't see why they would refuse it this time around. But yes, the potential for awkwardness is incredibly high.
It's not going to be that close, I agree, I'm just stressing how difficult Romney's electoral math is and why there's little reason to worry unless some huge unknown event occurs, as the debates are out of the way.
Damn. Didn't think I'd hear anything like that from Obama.
ClovingWestbrook
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How likely is it that this will be the last Presidential election that Social Conservativs will be competitive in? With the demographics changing so significantly over the next four years and a likely much improved economy by 2016, I dont see how this party stays the same and survives.
Judge to release Romney testimony
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/wp/2012/10/25/judge-to-release-romney-testimony/
Score 1 for the Blue Team; at least this resulted in something as opposed to Troll King Trump's "announcement".
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/wp/2012/10/25/judge-to-release-romney-testimony/
Score 1 for the Blue Team; at least this resulted in something as opposed to Troll King Trump's "announcement".
Give me a break.
cartoon_soldier
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Romney hasn't lead a single WI poll even after the 1st debate, so seems like fool's gold indeed.
Today on electoral-vote.com is Obama 294 vs. Romney 244 EVs. On this day eight years ago it was Bush 285 vs. Kerry 247. Bush ended up winning with 286 vs. 251.
Absolutely. The media, for some reason, still likes to pretend it's a swing state to make it look close so I just wanted to discredit that notion.
Absolutely. The media, for some reason, still likes to pretend it's a swing state to make it look close so I just wanted to discredit that notion.
Nobody this late in the game is going to be upset by that comment, those that dislike Obama will still dislike him and those who love him will be happy.
At this points its about motivating your base, Democrats outregister Republicans in almost every state that is crucial so if Obama can get them to the polls he wins hands down.
Romeny has constantly needed a game changer, closest he got was the 1st debate and that did not resonate in the areas that mattered.
Red Blaster
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From the way some of you were talking I thought Obama said bullshitter at a rally or something
nobody gives a shit about a Rolling Stone interview
nobody gives a shit about a Rolling Stone interview
The Lamonster
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Drudge picked it up, but I don't see it anywhere else that's notable.
And let's face it - Romney is a bullshitter. He calls it like he sees it, nothing wrong with that.
And let's face it - Romney is a bullshitter. He calls it like he sees it, nothing wrong with that.
Hey, I went to school with one of their journalist's sister....actually even she wasn't too impressed by his job nevermind
I think the press will give it a pass for the most part but use it as day time news filler on CNN and prime time volcanic eruption material on Fox. IIRC, something like this happened a while back with another politician and everyone talked about how of course politicians and presidents cuss, but no one wants to be caught doing so publicly.
I'd agree with this.
There was a point after the first debate where, when things were narrowing a bit, the closest I thought it could pooooossibly get was around 271EVs (my confidence in Ohio has never wavered throughout this entire race; thus, the ice in my veins this whole time). But that was a sort of worst case scenario.
Now, I'm convinced that Obama has a floor of 281EVs that he will win no matter what, with Florida, Colorado, and Virginia being coin flips. I really hope that he wins one or two of these three so that he has an insurance buffer just in case that overgrown redneck frat boy in Ohio tries to get any clever ideas.
Ceiling? If yesterday's movements become a trend, I could see this trend bringing those three coin flips into Obama's column while North Carolina becomes a coin flip.
And I really, really hope that we see Omaha give us a little gift. Seeing a purple state in the middle like that connecting the Blue NorthEast/Midwest to Obama's Mountain/Desert Zone would be sweet.
High on hopium this morning. I feel like I'm getting greedy!
PhoenixDark
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It's a stupid unforced error. Obama is already being portrayed as desperate and behind, compared to the confident and optimistic Romney. This just plays into that meme. Does it matter? Probably not. But it's still an ugly story that could have been avoided
Btw Obama will not lose Nevada, I don't know what Romney is doing there
Btw Obama will not lose Nevada, I don't know what Romney is doing there
If he said it to a reporter, considering how controlled he likes his interviews to be, I doubt it was an error.
Shows how much more presidential Romney is.
ClovingWestbrook
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So you think Bams will lose WI or Ohio, right?
John McCain Lashes Out At Colin Powell After Obama Endorsement
http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2...ll-after-obama-endorsement.php?ref=fpnewsfeed
Why is McCain doing this? He's too old to run for President again...
This is all total nonsense.
RustyNails
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Powell vs McCain GO
In other news, an old man was caught yelling at kids near his lawn.
Chicago politics and the 47% in the blue states. And of course gays can only be found in the west coast. GTFO.
Obama beat him, and he's a bitter old fuck with a tarnished legacy.
BertramCooper
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They'll never go away entirely.
Right-wing social extremism seems to be somewhat cyclical. Look at France, with the batshit crazy FN getting nearly 20% in the presidential election. Even in countries regarded as super liberal, certain triggers can bring about a surge in extremism. (In our case, it was electing a negro president.)
I expect (and hope) that this election will be a stake in the heart of the Tea Party movement, but we'll probably see another similar movement at some point in the future. (Hopefully far less pronounced.)
He took Powell's rejection personally in 2008.
CaptainSchwann
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McCain continues to be angry at everything I see.
PhoenixDark
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Not Wisconsin. I think he could lose Ohio, but it's becoming harder to imagine Romney winning it
Hmm. Telling.
They know that, while it won't be as big a deal as last time, it might still reassure middle-of-the-road Obama voters.
And the bullshitter thing has been shrugged off by everyone at work here today (a surprisingly even mix of political stripes - lots of New Orleans residents and suburban/rural commuters here).
It's an inconsequential story unworthy of attention. You're certainly overreacting. Surprise. At least Dax's observation holds true; there's a correlation between your trolling and good news for Obama.
Passe, but I can't deny the effort.
Colin Powell has sound foreign policy ideas. John McCain's foreign policy is war and invasion and never leaving. Except in humanitarian cases or cases where the only US gain is in establishing better foreign relations and supporting democracy. Then his foreign policy don't lift a finger, or just criticize whatever the president is doing.
People always said John McCain was a serious republican, I don't know why they said that.
BrokenFiction
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Old Man Yells At Cloud
ClovingWestbrook
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Yep.
RoninChaos
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So you respect a completely ridiculous fucking statement more than another ridiculous fucking statement?
That makes no sense. What they said in both instances was fucking stupid. Even if people have personal beliefs that may be controversial, there has to be a switch in the brain that says "Don't say this shit, it's fucking stupid" and neither of them posses that switch. And neither statement has anything that should be "respected".
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
LOL--just having some fun.
If anybody wants a clear message as to how fair and balanced Fox News is, take a look at their current picture/headline on their website.
It drives me nuts
eBay Huckster
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But I don't want to give them pageviews!
Fucking painful seeing McCain reduced to old man yelled at cloud like this. Fucking hurt man. I used to worship this guy.
Ahahah, they're really getting their fanbase's hope up aren't they?
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