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Wafflecakes
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I just stumbled upon this wonderful tea:
Rihanna, her nonexistent impact and meaningless brand power
To be fair. "Impact" has little to nothing to do with chart positions.
Brand power could be true. Though that is both a positive and a negative.
I don't think there has been any artist who had 8+ years of career longevity, 12 #1 singles, and 6 platinum albums and still had their influence, impact, and iconography called into question.
Look at this, and notice how Rihanna is sitting alongside artists like Madonna, Michael Jackson, Elvis, and the Beatles in terms of her achievements.
It's getting ridiculous now. And it will be even more ridiculous once the Diamonds tour ends and she releases her 8th album
Look at this, and notice how Rihanna is sitting alongside artists like Madonna, Michael Jackson, Elvis, and the Beatles in terms of her achievements.
It's getting ridiculous now. And it will be even more ridiculous once the Diamonds tour ends and she releases her 8th album
Wafflecakes
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I would like nothing more than for chart success to = impact since it is well known how much I love charts and numbers.
We all know that is not the case though.
Amy Winehouse is a perfect example. She was a mess and really only had one hit single worlwide and one successful album, yet I still see her impact as being up there with any of the (current) major pop girls.
That is not to say that an artist cannot have both chart success and impact though.
I think a good way to look at "brand power" would be to compare our fave's perfume sales.
Let me come in with these receipts:
FAME sold 30 Million bottles, grossing 1.6 Billion dollars (as of Feb). It was the highest grossing single fragrance last year
Most successful pop gyal fragrance of all time.
Let me come in with these receipts:
FAME sold 30 Million bottles, grossing 1.6 Billion dollars (as of Feb). It was the highest grossing single fragrance last year
Most successful pop gyal fragrance of all time.
Wafflecakes
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lol
One could easily argue that brand power is a negative allowing artists to sell a bad products because of their name.
Professor Beef
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I caught myself using PopGAF lingo this morning. Noticed that I forgot to clean my room a bit and said to myself "what kind of mess..."
PopGAF's impact~
PopGAF's impact~
I once said "show me the receipts!!!" to my older brother.
He's an accountant tho. Im sure he's used to hearing that.
<+)O Robido O(+>
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Having heard all 4, I will say that BTW has more filler than 4, TTT and Unapologetic combined.
Soulscribe
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Born This Way is a better and more fully realized album than 4, Talk That Talk, and Unapologetic combined. So let's noT.
Well it's like 60-40, but 4 clocks 38 of that 40. lol
Now sis, not even you can believe this. BTW is a mess of an album, conceptually.
All these blatant LIES
Bad Kids is the only piece of filler on the entire album. Black Jesus & FOHL are bonus tracks for a reason though.
EDIT: The problem with 4 is that it's highs are wayyyy better than the highs of BTW, but it's lows are also pretty much the lowest Bey has ever gone.
Highway Unicorn and Electric Chapel are filler as well.
BTW's problem isn't only with filler, there are tracks that aren't filler that are pretty bad (Born This Way, Hair, You and I). That's 6 poor tracks out of 14.
That's your awful opinion though. Electric Chapel is one of my fave tracks off the record, so again that is subjective. Highway Unicorn has one of the best and most powerful choruses on the record. The only song universally agreed on as being filler is Bad Kids, end of story.
Hair is only "bad" because of it's lyrics. It slayed me live and I actually genuinely think it's a good song. Born This Way can't be that bad considering the records it broke. You & I is way better than Speechless.
I'm getting really tired of people trying to use Gaga's visually messy era to somehow convince themselves that the album also sucked, when it reality it really didn't. TFM gets so much credit for everything but the music.
Just like Gangnam Style. Also no Speechless > You And I.
What? Do you not understand what the inspiration for the album was? Did you not see the album cover?
If you honestly tell me this isn't good production, I would like you to tell me what is
https://soundcloud.com/gagathiswayy/new-hair-instrumental
Something being the inspiration of the album doesn't make it good. The title track of Born This Way is one of the worst on the record.
Good production? Scheiße, Bloody Mary, and Heavy Metal Lover are great examples.
what in the world
gaga could have released bad kids as the lead single and it would have smashed records. the hype is what made btw become so successful.
and bye everyone compliments TFM's music. don't you run a gaga fansite? doesn't everyone there ride DITD's dick? i would go as far as to say TFM is one of the greatest modern pop albums. it's her only album that sounds uniquely "gaga" if that makes any sense.
Wafflecakes
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I would be getting that Xtina avatar ready.
The Void ratings went UP this week. Unless it starts dropping it will pass its first equivalent episode of Idol in 2 weeks or so.
Bad Kids was cute, it would of certainly charted higher than Judas or MTN.
Let's see, my main problem with TFM is that nothing on it is GREAT to me, the songs just range from okay - good (EDIT: SHICD is great). I can name plenty of tracks from BTW that I consider great and that I use still.
DITD gives me blue balls everytime I listen to it. The first 45 seconds of the track, in my opinion, is the best thing Gaga has ever released. But then it falls apart completely in the chorus. The bridge gets a lot of praise but I can't shake the Vogue feeling which makes it hard for me to appreciate.
Wafflecakes
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Mumei disagrees
I kind of like You & I.
Not sure why I like it, but it is the only song from BTW that I still use.
Did I miss the part where you lied?
Yes, but an album is a body of work, and you need to consider all of it, not just what you use.
To me, an album that contains all 'good' tracks with nothing great is better than an album with some great tracks interspersed with shit no one wants to listen to.
You & I is the only song I erased from iTunes.
I'll remain forever pressed that the best version was paid complete dust. What the hell was she thinking?
The rest of BTW is godly
I'll remain forever pressed that the best version was paid complete dust. What the hell was she thinking?
The rest of BTW is godly
You & I is the only song I erased from iTunes.
I'll remain forever pressed that the best version was paid complete dust. What the hell was she thinking?
The rest of BTW is godly
She did the same to Speechless, which is actually v nice live
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT8lp-U7hFk
o and I forgot to reply to this
Bullshit. When I open iTunes, I don't listen to a "body of work", I listen to a song on an album. It's like saying 20/20 Experience is the best album ever made because it all is cohesive and sounds the same, yet most of us can't even pick three songs we use off of it.
What? How come I never saw this before!! A bunch of faves all on the same stage singing together!!!???? Mariah and Mary J take center stage of course. 
waiT, drew, you don't think bad romance/alejandro/monster are great?
Alejandro is probably my second fave from the record, but it still doesn't match HML, EoG, Scheiße, and Bloody Mary in my eyes. Monster is good but I'm not fond of basic pop so I don't really use. Bad Romance is catchy but can I say I ever listen to it? No. The video is what made that song.
Wafflecakes
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What? How come I never saw this before!! A bunch of faves all on the same stage singing together!!!???? Mariah and Mary J take center stage of course.
lol. Wow, all of them in the same video really puts into perspective what an annoying voice Miley has. Maybe it is just the song..... but still.
ch...
Monster and basic in the same sentence?
You stan Rih, so you are used to pretending things aren't as basiC as they really are
Matt_
World's #1 One Direction Fan: Everyone else in the room can see it, everyone else but you~~~
What? How come I never saw this before!! A bunch of faves all on the same stage singing together!!!???? Mariah and Mary J take center stage of course.
I want a miley cyrus x rihanna collab
Legend X loves Rihanna
Christina was in attendance at the SOLD-OUT concert by Rihanna in LA at the Staples Center last night, as were numerous other celebs such as Elle Fanning, Chloe Moretz, Colton Haynes, Ashley Benson, Ellen Pompeo, Riley Keough, Nicolas Hoult, Rosie Huntington Whiteley, Kirsten Dunst, Wilmer Valderrama, Sia Furler, Kendall Jenner, Kylie Jenner, Scott Disick, Naya Rivera, Big Sean, Kevin McHale, Jared Eng, Selena Gomez, Christina Aguilera, Matthew Rutler, Alessandra Torresani, Tyga, Blac Chyna, Kylie Minogue, Chris Brown, Perez Hilton, Evelyn Lozada, Lil Twist, Casey Veggies, Gerrick D. Kennedy, Trinidad James, Jessica Burciaga, Julissa Bermudez, Rochelle Aytes, Jenna Marbles, Jesse Metcalfe, Cara Santana, Jessica Szohr, Nicolas Hoult & Paul Nassif.
I see Kylie Minouge and Sia stanning as well as Xtina
#RihannasimpacT #RihannasBrandPower
Christina was in attendance at the SOLD-OUT concert by Rihanna in LA at the Staples Center last night, as were numerous other celebs such as Elle Fanning, Chloe Moretz, Colton Haynes, Ashley Benson, Ellen Pompeo, Riley Keough, Nicolas Hoult, Rosie Huntington Whiteley, Kirsten Dunst, Wilmer Valderrama, Sia Furler, Kendall Jenner, Kylie Jenner, Scott Disick, Naya Rivera, Big Sean, Kevin McHale, Jared Eng, Selena Gomez, Christina Aguilera, Matthew Rutler, Alessandra Torresani, Tyga, Blac Chyna, Kylie Minogue, Chris Brown, Perez Hilton, Evelyn Lozada, Lil Twist, Casey Veggies, Gerrick D. Kennedy, Trinidad James, Jessica Burciaga, Julissa Bermudez, Rochelle Aytes, Jenna Marbles, Jesse Metcalfe, Cara Santana, Jessica Szohr, Nicolas Hoult & Paul Nassif.
I see Kylie Minouge and Sia stanning as well as Xtina
#RihannasimpacT #RihannasBrandPower
Legend X came back specifically for Rihanna's concert, obviously.
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