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Near the very end, the film has a short fake ending with Shaw saying "I'm sorry" over and over, and for a moment I thought I might have just seen a bleak piss-take on the quest for meaning in the universe. But her getting up and jetting off to find the answers again completely negates that interpretation. It's optimistic, frankly. There is obviously every intention of a sequel, but if the theme is fatalism, what is the point of sequels? More pointless wandering and asking? I'm sorry, but while it's an amusing read of the story, there is not enough to suggest this is the intended meaning at all.

I don't see how David learns anything either. He's just the most interesting character because he's the most inscrutable. No one has learned anything by the end, but the film is set up for you to "stay tuned".
 
The movie really was just a huge mess after the first act. No central conflict, no climax, and certainly no conclusion whatsoever. It was basically an hour of exposition, followed by a bunch of loosely interconnected action sequences which served no purpose other than to meet some arbitrary body count quota. Ah well, at least it was pretty.
 
Thread is too long for me to check, but someone may have already pointed out this analogy.

Black goo = Fire

Well, fire in the sense that if it is used in a controlled environment, then it can sustain life (in some cases, even create life). However, if it gets out of control, then it will destroy everything in its path.

And the Titan (or giant being) that gave fire to the mortals is Prometheus.

Except that in this case, the black goo wasn't given to the humans. They just kind of find it on a moon.

The movie really was just a huge mess after the first act. No central conflict, no climax, and certainly no conclusion whatsoever. It was basically an hour of exposition, followed by a bunch of loosely interconnected action sequences which served no purpose other than to meet some arbitrary body count quota. Ah well, at least it was pretty.

What would have made this movie fuck awesome is if they released the engineer from his sleep shortly after they landed. The rest of the movie would be them running away from the awoken pissed-off engineer, while dealing with the effects of David's goo experiment, and slowly revealing the plot points. It would essentially be the same movie, just with a constant threat of an engineer hunting them throughout.
 
I posted this in the ot but ill post it here as well...just got back from seeing it and these are my thoughts

first half of the movie was fantastic.

Then theron burned the guy and its like the writers said "oh shit guys, we gotta wrap this up! None or the character reactions or interactions make sense. NONE.

Women gets a c section to take out the implanted alien and stumbles upon david and weyland. They are basically like oh hey take a seat. You alright?

Then the captain comes to her room. No question what happened to her? Why are you hurt and bloody? Oh well I just fly the ship.

Then Shaw decides to go out with david and crew, one of which is the lady she knocked out to escape being re cryoed. No one is like, oh hey why is weyland here? Oh well that's cool let's go!

Then the captain decides to crash into the alien ship. His crew basically says sounds great let's do it!

And finally....why wouldn't you just run sideways when a ship is ROLLING towards you. Why in Gods name would you just keep running in front of it.

If only this movie just stayed like the first half. Its like two totally different movies

This post was more entertaining the movie even itself.
 
Now I am going to preface my impressions/review with the following:

I had never seen Alien until this past week. I have seen none of the sequels and no next to nothing about the Alien lore, back-stories, and as a result didn't have years and years of hype built up.

I also went to see the movie with two friends who have never seen Alien. I bought the anthology on blu-ray but due to time constraints only managed to watch Alien before Prometheus. Mentioning all this because I am sure it shapes my view of the movie quite differently than others.

I really liked it. That is until I came here and saw the discussion. While we left the theater me and my friends were in awe of the visuals and the cool concepts about man's origins introduced. Seriously some of the set ups, the sets, and design was outstanding. Just so fantastic and epic and at least I felt this sense of amazement that the crew was supposed to feel

But the more I think about it, the more it seems off to me. Not even getting to the story, just the character interactions. Its almost there is a scene or two always missing in between the movie we did get. For example:

-Where is the sense of awe and amazement when they find what they find? Presumably this is mankind's first contact with any sort of alien life form yet all of them seem to be ho hum about it. I don't know I expected more of a moment similar to Jurassic Park where Dr. Neil first discovers the dinosaurs. Instead their reactions bordered on landing in another country on Earth that hasn't been explored yet.

-For scientists they all seem pretty dumb. Let me get this straight. You land on an Alien planet which might have living creatures (engineers) who they don't know if they are hostile or friendly. Yet they just all walk into an obvious non natural structure. And then in addition they refuse to take weapons because "its a scientific journey". WTF?

-The two scientists who get lost, the geologist and biologist. HOW? WHY? They had all this high tech mapping gadgets, they are in constant contact with Prometheus, and not only do they get lost but the crew on the ship has no idea they are lost?

-I don't quite get Shaw's reactions either. Forget that her lover was a moron who ignored a a worm in his eye and continued to risk the whole mission. Why is it that Shaw is able to fight off two scientists, by knocking them out, able to climb into the emergency procedures machine, complete the procedure by herself, and then walk out ALL WITHOUT anyone noticing, coming to stop her, or then when they do notice her...ACT LIKE NOTHING HAPPENED. In that sequence, David clearly is forcing her to go through with the pregnancy, which would have killed her, she clearly realizes he is working for some other agenda, and she fears for her life. Yet now after removing the creature from her stomach, she is not enraged at David? She wishes not even raise the questions to Vickers or Weyland himself?

It just didn't make sense and just seemed really unnatural.

-After they realize what the Engineers are or intend to do, and they need to make a run for it, the ship's captain and crew are way too easily convinced to fly into the Alien ship. Like there isn't even a moment of reflection, hesitation, inquisition, but rather "HOORAH WE GONNA FLY THIS INTO THE SHIP!". I know I am exaggerating a bit but that's how it felt.

-I actually really enjoyed Vickers even though it was painfully obvious she was his daughter. It was also obvious he was on the ship. If her dying was supposed to be satisfactory for the audience it failed to do so. She was the only one who really acted amazed, scared, and human throughout the whole movie. And her death was so so so stupid. She just runs into a straight line even though the shadows clearly show where the ship is landing.

Now those were the things that just bothered me or I found stupid. But maybe its because I don't know if in the time-frame and universe set up, this is the first time humans are finding alien life form or just another life form which may or may not have created life on earth.

Also is it safe to assume the opening scene is on Earth showing how life on Earth began? I couldn't get if it was on purpose involving a self sacrifice or accident. The ship hovering over head was doing what? Making sure the Engineer went through with the sacrifice? How is their DNA identical to ours if the dude contaminates his DNA with the black goo to kick start life?

Also can someone clear up some of the Alien lingo? As I mentioned I have only seen Alien and even that just this past week.

1. What is a Xeno? That is the Alien we see in the first movie correct?

2. I see the planets marked LV-232 and such. Which is what? I don't remember seeing in the movie these labels. The planet Prometheus lands on is which one? One of the 5 in the solar system the cave paints illustrate correct?

3. Its confirmed that the Planet Nostromo lands on in Alien is different than the planet Prometheus is on? When David and Shaw decide to leave and she is recording a message I assumed this was the message which the crew of Nostromo first misinterprets as a distress call, but in actuality is a warning. I thought it made sense since it had the crashed ship and the Engineer/Space Jockey would be in the driver's seat like how its found in Alien. That all went out of the window since he didn't die from a chest buster and actually pursues Shaw to set her straight.

4. I see so many different theories on the black goo, face huggers, and Aliens themselves. All I got from the original movie was that there are eggs which contain face huggers. These face huggers need to seed with another creature to impregnate them with a full grown Alien. How is that ruined with Prometheus? We still had a face hugger (the squid Shaw gives birth to) impregnate another animal (Space Jockey) which then gave birth to an Alien. And why is this Alien relatively full grown compared to the Alien in the first movie which looks no bigger than a cat at birth?

5. Are people just putting together theories and back-stories to make sense of Prometheus or is there some solid foundation from the other movies? What is the Jesus angle? I see some speculating the Engineers at war, worshiping the Alien creature, and many others. Where are you guys getting this from?

All I got from the movie where they show the recorded history is that the Engineers were creating/experimenting and they lost control or the Aliens turned on them. They were all killed except for that one dude who somehow could not be killed even though the face huggers and Aliens seems capable of penetrating most other glass like structures. Also the Alien mural implied to me that they had either had contact or created a full grown Alien to know what it looks like. Nothing about worshiping it. Where did that come from?

6. Also why would the Engineers leave a map or drawing of some military base? How is that an invitation. If they wanted us, humans, to find them why not to their home planet? Why to a military base.

Usually I don't mind open ended movies which let you decide. Inception also left the door open for a lot of theories, but this just seems lazy. This movie is supposed to tie in a lot and answer questions yet it seems to have just posed more, larger, questions with no answers. Its frustrating.

And I apologize way in advance for my comments and questions as I know they must have been discussed over and over but I couldn't read through all 130+ pages of the thread. I started on page 1 got to 3 and realized I have 100 more to go.
 
I just got back from seeing it a second time. I still think you guys are completely overreacting. Prometheus is a good movie. The only really silly part is at the very end when both women are running in a straight line away from the rolling ship. So goddamn stupid. The other questionable behavior? Easily believable, especially since only a handful of characters are given a decent amount of screen time. As for the black goo mystery, that'll be explained in the inevitable sequel. As intended. Until then the Internet nerds will speculate endlessly and use far too much brainpower to contemplate a 2-hour piece of entertainment. We're all doing exactly what Lideoff wants us to do, LOL.

Regardless, I can't help myself so here's a theory of my own. I think it's pretty obvious that the black goo was designed to turn the host into a "zombie." The engineer who lost his head was actually a zombie chasing the other engineers. That's why they were ran from him and then locked themselves in that room, conveniently cutting his head off. That's why his head started bulging when stimulated (bulged just like the geologist dude). Charlie would have turned too if Vickers hadn't burned him up. You could see his veins going black and his skin starting to bulge before that. The worms are obviously responsible for the snake things, though I'm not sure if there was zombie sex involved or not. As for the squidhugger/deacon we'll just have to wait for the sequel.

Also:

Alien 3 > Aliens

Alien 3 > Aliens

the fuck am I reading?
 
And how did they find the moon?

Cave drawings found by Shaw and Holloway eventually led them to hook up with Weyland Industries and presumably through the magic of science fiction, Weyland Industries was able to calculate the exact coordinates of the moon. Some of Shaw's materials that I posted in a page or so prior actually have the coordinates of the moon.
 
1. What is a Xeno? That is the Alien we see in the first movie correct?

2. I see the planets marked LV-232 and such. Which is what? I don't remember seeing in the movie these labels. The planet Prometheus lands on is which one? One of the 5 in the solar system the cave paints illustrate correct?

3. Its confirmed that the Planet Nostromo lands on in Alien is different than the planet Prometheus is on? When David and Shaw decide to leave and she is recording a message I assumed this was the message which the crew of Nostromo first misinterprets as a distress call, but in actuality is a warning. I thought it made sense since it had the crashed ship and the Engineer/Space Jockey would be in the driver's seat like how its found in Alien. That all went out of the window since he didn't die from a chest buster and actually pursues Shaw to set her straight.

4. I see so many different theories on the black goo, face huggers, and Aliens themselves. All I got from the original movie was that there are eggs which contain face huggers. These face huggers need to seed with another creature to impregnate them with a full grown Alien. How is that ruined with Prometheus? We still had a face hugger (the squid Shaw gives birth to) impregnate another animal (Space Jockey) which then gave birth to an Alien. And why is this Alien relatively full grown compared to the Alien in the first movie which looks no bigger than a cat at birth?

5. Are people just putting together theories and back-stories to make sense of Prometheus or is there some solid foundation from the other movies? What is the Jesus angle? I see some speculating the Engineers at war, worshiping the Alien creature, and many others. Where are you guys getting this from?

All I got from the movie where they show the recorded history is that the Engineers were creating/experimenting and they lost control or the Aliens turned on them. They were all killed except for that one dude who somehow could not be killed even though the face huggers and Aliens seems capable of penetrating most other glass like structures. Also the Alien mural implied to me that they had either had contact or created a full grown Alien to know what it looks like. Nothing about worshiping it. Where did that come from?

6. Also why would the Engineers leave a map or drawing of some military base? How is that an invitation. If they wanted us, humans, to find them why not to their home planet? Why to a military base.

1. Xenomorph is the name for the full grown Alien in the Alien series that we all know and love.

2. It landed on a planet in that solar system, yes, based on being suitable for life like earth. I can't recall if the

3. Different planets. The one in Alien is LV-426. The day/night structure is vastly different, anyway.

4. No one knows exactly.

5. Yes, making theories. There is nothing in any of the Alien movies that can help you with prometheus.

6. We don't know the answer to this. All that's been confirmed is that something changed. It might not have been a military base and they made it one later on. or maybe it isn't. These things are impossible to know. We need a sequel to know the answers to this question.
 
6. We don't know the answer to this. All that's been confirmed is that something changed. It might not have been a military base and they made it one later on. or maybe it isn't. These things are impossible to know. We need a sequel to know the answers to this question.

Yep. Also keep in mind the cave paintings the scientists found were approximately 35,000 years old, while the decapitated engineer carcass was roughly 2,000. That's 33,000 years in between. A lot can fucking change in that time, heh.


Among the many other questions the movie posed to me, how the hell did the alien she had cut out of her grow 800x in weight without consuming anything? Of course, the same thing happens in other Alien movies, but not to that extent, I don't think.

It was absolutely to that extent. The original Alien went from smaller than a football to full-grown in like an hour.
 
Yep. Also keep in mind the cave paintings the scientists found were approximately 35,000 years old, while the decapitated engineer carcass was roughly 2,000. That's 33,000 years in between. A lot can fucking change in that time, heh.

And also the cave paintings in Hawaii are from 680 CE, after the event that killed some of those engineers. meaning they returned already without killing us.

There were 2 changes or 1 change which led to the event that killed them and the others didn't know about it or something.

IIRC, Shaw asks the engineer "why did you want to kill us and why did you change your mind" or something.
 
It was absolutely to that extent. The original Alien went from smaller than a football to full-grown in like an hour.

Yeah, it clearly has something to do with the goo. Consider that the snake-alien thing was originally a tiny fucking worm and grew to that size, in what? 15-20 mins?

In fact, I think that Alien 3 is the only one that shows a xeno "skin" that is shed and a dead animal (dog?) that is MAY have killed for sustenance, though most theories say that it killed a random animal because the xeno was derived from an animal, not a human.
 
1. Xenomorph is the name for the full grown Alien in the Alien series that we all know and love.

2. It landed on a planet in that solar system, yes, based on being suitable for life like earth. I can't recall if the

3. Different planets. The one in Alien is LV-426. The day/night structure is vastly different, anyway.

4. No one knows exactly.

5. Yes, making theories. There is nothing in any of the Alien movies that can help you with prometheus.

6. We don't know the answer to this. All that's been confirmed is that something changed. It might not have been a military base and they made it one later on. or maybe it isn't. These things are impossible to know. We need a sequel to know the answers to this question.

Thanks!

Something tells me that even if we get a sequel we won't get all the answers.

Also further thoughts:

I felt it was a wasted opportunity to tie directly into Alien when the Space Jockey gets into his uniform and driver seat. That whole scene felt like a direct lead into Alien but then they threw it away. What a terrible cock tease. Its like this whole time they are both saying YEAH IT S A PREQUEL but also yanking the rug from underneath claiming "NOT SO FAST!".

My initial grade leaving the theater was an A. I just really liked it as a stand alone movie about searching for our beginnings. But as a movie that is supposed provide some answers and tie directly into the Alien universe PLUS all the inconsistencies and questions left open I'll lower my grade to a B-.

Was a fun watch.
 
Cave drawings found by Shaw and Holloway eventually led them to hook up with Weyland Industries and presumably through the magic of science fiction, Weyland Industries was able to calculate the exact coordinates of the moon. Some of Shaw's materials that I posted in a page or so prior actually have the coordinates of the moon.

It was a rhetorical question :p
 
In fact, I think that Alien 3 is the only one that shows a xeno "skin" that is shed and a dead animal (dog?) that is MAY have killed for sustenance, though most theories say that it killed a random animal because the xeno was derived from an animal, not a human.

The dumb cat-chasing guy in the original Alien picked up a slimy "skin" before hew was killed.
 
Thanks!

Something tells me that even if we get a sequel we won't get all the answers.

Also further thoughts:

I felt it was a wasted opportunity to tie directly into Alien when the Space Jockey gets into his uniform and driver seat. That whole scene felt like a direct lead into Alien but then they threw it away. What a terrible cock tease. Its like this whole time they are both saying YEAH IT S A PREQUEL but also yanking the rug from underneath claiming "NOT SO FAST!".

My initial grade leaving the theater was an A. I just really liked it as a stand alone movie about searching for our beginnings. But as a movie that is supposed provide some answers and tie directly into the Alien universe PLUS all the inconsistencies and questions left open I'll lower my grade to a B-.

Was a fun watch.

In fairness, Scott and Lidelof kept saying it is not a true prequel and it will not lead into Alien. They've been saying it's in the same universe, instead.
 
Here's a question. Is the lack of character development for the human characters (David is the only character that learns and wonders) bad writing or is it intentional? The humans move through this alien environment looking around, hoping to find something definitive about their origins. But they don't find it immediately, only DNA samples. However interesting that may be, they do very little analyzing of what it might mean. Nor do they speculate on other things they witnessed. The two main scientists see these Engineers as Gods... and wish nothing more to meet them. Same as Weyland. Yet almost everyone in the film recklessly, hopelessly, meets some sort of end. Most deaths being undignified and meaningless. Before they realized the Engineers wish to terminate Earth/humanity, the Engineers are Gods. They have the answers. When Shaw and others come to understand the Engineers plans, they no longer hold any respect towards it. They assume its motivation and reasoning is wrong. They assume the moral ground even though that ground was built on the shoulders of the Engineers (scene with ground breaking open represents human reality/culture literally breaking open). David on the other hand, knows everything all along I think. He knows waking up the Engineers will lead to events that end humanity. His view on humanity is that if their creators saw no more purpose with humans and humans see no purpose in life then the reasons why (for any of it, origin, why we were made etc) are meaningless. The audience isn't meant to find definitive meaning. It's almost essentially trolling those who take the film seriously. Who think there might actually be some kind of answer. There isn't one is the fact. But for some of us, we can look at life around us and wonder regardless. David has more love and passion for life than humans because he doesn't pretend that his creator cares about him. He doesn't pretend that he will go to heaven when he dies. He doesn't blink an eye when his creator says he has no soul. Perhaps that is what the Engineers would have told us... but unlike David, we continue pretending, denying, and ultimately living in fear.

So yeah, I think you are right atop. This film will be looked back on more highly. At least it continues to grow on me and I still have only seen it once. It's becoming something rather brilliant actually.

This is super interesting and good but why did they so hamfistidly have all the faith and "i choose to believe" stuff in there.
 
Does this movie has the highest "best trailer : dissapointing movie" ratio ever? A coworker of mine told me he won't even see the movie in theaters when I told him that the they don't use the scream from the trailer in the Prometheus score. That trailer, when I saw it in theaters was one of the most intense things I've ever seen.
 
Finally went to go see it (IMAX 3D). I didn't know anything going in (never saw the trailer, heard any opinions from others, or anything b/c of being on blackout) and was very impressed. Probably one of my top 3 sci fi movies of all time. I loved it. Films like this are why I go to the movies!
 
I think the trailer indeed left a very bad taste after watching the movie. I didn't WANT to expect another alien in terms of suspense but thanks to the trailer I couldn't shake it off.

Anyway, I'm starting to accept that this movie isn't perfect. :)
 
I think the trailer indeed left a very bad taste after watching the movie. I didn't WANT to expect another alien in terms of suspense but thanks to the trailer I couldn't shake it off.

Anyway, I'm starting to accept that this movie isn't perfect. :)

The score is probably my biggest grievance with the film.
 
Does this movie has the highest "best trailer : dissapointing movie" ratio ever? A coworker of mine told me he won't even see the movie in theaters when I told him that the they don't use the scream from the trailer in the Prometheus score. That trailer, when I saw it in theaters was one of the most intense things I've ever seen.

I don't remember the Phantom Menace trailer, but I'm sure it still takes the cake in the ratio department.
 
Does this movie has the highest "best trailer : dissapointing movie" ratio ever? A coworker of mine told me he won't even see the movie in theaters when I told him that the they don't use the scream from the trailer in the Prometheus score. That trailer, when I saw it in theaters was one of the most intense things I've ever seen.

That honor belongs to The Phantom Menace
 
In fairness, Scott and Lidelof kept saying it is not a true prequel and it will not lead into Alien. They've been saying it's in the same universe, instead.

Right but again they kept teasing to do both. The shot where the space jockey sits in his seat is so iconic and identical that it only serves the purpose of linking to Alien more than any other time in the movie.

Also Shaw's thinking process is just odd. Whole crew dead, her theories proven wrong, and possible infection from abortion...instead of going back to earth to present the findings and alert mankind, she decides to go forward with no weapons or knowledge and just the head of the android that tried to sacrifice her and killed her man. I mean that is fucking stupid.

Although I guess they had to do that otherwise the crew in the first Alien movie would have known about aliens, space jockies, and would have never answered the call. Basically Shaw risks all of humanity because of her ambition.
 
Right but again they kept teasing to do both. The shot where the space jockey sits in his seat is so iconic and identical that it only serves the purpose of linking to Alien more than any other time in the movie.

Also Shaw's thinking process is just odd. Whole crew dead, her theories proven wrong, and possible infection from abortion...instead of going back to earth to present the findings and alert mankind, she decides to go forward with no weapons or knowledge and just the head of the android that tried to sacrifice her and killed her man. I mean that is fucking stupid.

Although I guess they had to do that otherwise the crew in the first Alien movie would have known about aliens, space jockies, and would have never answered the call. Basically Shaw risks all of humanity because of her ambition.


Well, the attack on Earth never happens, so we can infer that either

A) Shaw succeeds in whatever she sets out to do (reason with the Engineers, I guess)

or

B) She gets to the planet and finds that they're become extinct, their home planet possibly overridden with Xenomorphs and she and David('s head) get torn apart.
 
Does this movie has the highest "best trailer : dissapointing movie" ratio ever? A coworker of mine told me he won't even see the movie in theaters when I told him that the they don't use the scream from the trailer in the Prometheus score. That trailer, when I saw it in theaters was one of the most intense things I've ever seen.

SUPERMAN RETURNS. that teaser was fucking incredible, the movie anything but.
 
Right but again they kept teasing to do both. The shot where the space jockey sits in his seat is so iconic and identical that it only serves the purpose of linking to Alien more than any other time in the movie.

Also Shaw's thinking process is just odd. Whole crew dead, her theories proven wrong, and possible infection from abortion...instead of going back to earth to present the findings and alert mankind, she decides to go forward with no weapons or knowledge and just the head of the android that tried to sacrifice her and killed her man. I mean that is fucking stupid.

Although I guess they had to do that otherwise the crew in the first Alien movie would have known about aliens, space jockies, and would have never answered the call. Basically Shaw risks all of humanity because of her ambition.


Well, Ridley is trying to explain about the Space Jockeys. I'll agree that the ending seemed like a shoehorning connection thing. I didn't understand the purpose of it other than to connect it to Alien.

As far as Shaw goes, remember they returned in 680CE. She is approaching them to ask questions because I don't think she yet believes they're bad. All the stuff was due to the goo, she didn't know any of them were alive. She just wants answers and believes she could get them. I think her motivation was fine.

And TBF, she might have been right. The Engineer didn't just wake up and attack them. he sort of looked like he was waiting for them to say something. David's words failed whatever test it was (my theory is he did say what Weyland wanted and being self-sacrificial for life, the Engineer realized humans were too self-serving to be worthy). Had David said nothing or something else, it might have played out differently. Note how he also didn't chase her. It was only after she convinced the crew to kill themselves to save Earth that he went after her (self-preservation again).

edit: And it's not like she had a choice to go to Earth. She wasn't in charge. Weyland basically said "you gonna tag along or what." Either she sits in her room recovering, or she sees the Engineer come to life. She didn't actually have an option to fly back to Earth.
 
pretty disappointing movie.

so many wut moments that seemed to be crafted just to move the plot along...and don't even get into the whole prequel thing cause that's just a mess.
 
Can someone confirm whether I'm right or wrong about this:

LV-232 is just a moon of a Planet, right? Was there any reason why they landed on the moon instead of on the planet itself?
 
Well, Ridley is trying to explain about the Space Jockeys. I'll agree that the ending seemed like a shoehorning connection thing. I didn't understand the purpose of it other than to connect it to Alien.

As far as Shaw goes, remember they returned in 680CE. She is approaching them to ask questions because I don't think she yet believes they're bad. All the stuff was due to the goo, she didn't know any of them were alive. She just wants answers and believes she could get them. I think her motivation was fine.

And TBF, she might have been right. The Engineer didn't just wake up and attack them. he sort of looked like he was waiting for them to say something. David's words failed whatever test it was (my theory is he did say what Weyland wanted and being self-sacrificial for life, the Engineer realized humans were too self-serving to be worthy). Had David said nothing or something else, it might have played out differently. Note how he also didn't chase her. It was only after she convinced the crew to kill themselves to save Earth that he went after her (self-preservation again).

edit: And it's not like she had a choice to go to Earth. She wasn't in charge. Weyland basically said "you gonna tag along or what." Either she sits in her room recovering, or she sees the Engineer come to life. She didn't actually have an option to fly back to Earth.

I think he was asking why she didn't use the alien ship to go to Earth with David afterwards.
 
Can someone confirm whether I'm right or wrong about this:

LV-232 is just a moon of a Planet, right? Was there any reason why they landed on the moon instead of on the planet itself?

I think they said the moon was the only habitable environment or something.
 
Can someone confirm whether I'm right or wrong about this:

LV-232 is just a moon of a Planet, right? Was there any reason why they landed on the moon instead of on the planet itself?

I think they did go on the planet. They said that the planet had a moon (which apparently is important for having sustainable life). But I can't quite recall.

edit: They found the solar system and picked the planet with a moon like Earth's. Or so I thought.

I think he was asking why she didn't use the alien ship to go to Earth with David afterwards.

Ah, I see.

Well, I would just say she's now consumed with finding the answers to the questions she has. David mentions going back to Earth and she refuses.

Bigger question is, how she gonna eat?
 
I think they said the moon was the only habitable environment or something.

Ah, I didn't hear that. That sounds interesting that the moon is more habitable than the planet.

I think they did go on the planet. They said that the planet had a moon (which apparently is important for having sustainable life). But I can't quite recall.\

I remember them showing a map of that particular planet and the LV-232 marker points to a small moon orbiting the Saturn-like planet.
 
Can someone confirm whether I'm right or wrong about this:

LV-232 is just a moon of a Planet, right? Was there any reason why they landed on the moon instead of on the planet itself?

The planet was a gas giant with several large moons. Like Jupiter and its larger moons (Europa, Io, Ganymede, and Calysto). It'd probably be a bit bigger than the largest of those, since it seemed to have relatively earth-like gravity, but that's not out of the realm of possibility.
 
Unexplored Alien World Landing Party Protocols:
* Bring no security. Ever.
* At earliest opportunity split the Landing Party up.
* The leader of the Landing Party should be an android or robot with a secret agenda.
* Touch everything. If possible bring everything back to the only means of escape.
* If members of the Landing Party become lost, cancel all watches and retire for the night.
* In case of suit shredding sudden storms immediately brave storm. Do Not stay in safety of shelter.

Alien Investigation Ship Protocols:
* Women Officers shall all requisition one (1) elite medical bay calibrated for men.
* Trust all androids.
* All escape modules must become wreckage upon impact from any height less than 100 feet.
* When scanning, all 'life' readings are to be considered glitches. Report such findings to the Landing party as a 'joke'.
* All Captains are allowed one completely irrelevant musical instrument.
* Alien autopsies should be conducted with one drunk scientist present at all times.
* Weather reports should be relayed to the Landing Party at last possible moment. If at all.

Android Safety Protocols:
* Kill everyone on board in order to possibly (most likely not) save one old man.
* Insult all superior alien sentients encountered.
* Never reveal communication from 'father'; unless pressed against a wall and question is repeated.
* When examining unknown alien devices: poking, crushing, snapping, disassembly and tasting are all recommended courses of investigation.

Earth Protection Policy:
* Crash vessel.
* Do not warn Earth.
 
^^ Go watch original Alien and give me your list on that, thanks.

Also Shaw's thinking process is just odd. Whole crew dead, her theories proven wrong, and possible infection from abortion...instead of going back to earth to present the findings and alert mankind, she decides to go forward with no weapons or knowledge and just the head of the android that tried to sacrifice her and killed her man. I mean that is fucking stupid.

Come oooon, you're just reaching with that. She's a scientist who clearly spent the better part of her entire life searching for the answers she seeks, and after losing her boyfriend she feels she has nothing to lose. Of course she's going to keep going.
 
Can someone confirm whether I'm right or wrong about this:

LV-232 is just a moon of a Planet, right? Was there any reason why they landed on the moon instead of on the planet itself?

Most recent studies point out that life can emerge on these giant moons of gaseous planets, like Titan for example in our own solar system, or Enceladus with its sea of water, and they are supposedly more abundant than planets like ours orbiting a single star, so I guess the writers wanted some veracity, they were not implying anything about the Aliens or Engineers themselves.
 
^^ Go watch original Alien and give me your list on that, thanks.

That could be fun. I liked the movie for the most part but some things could have been better thought out. The running from the giant wheel has been joked to death but there quite a bit in this movie that could have used a little more brewing. Compared to say Abyss which thought things through far better but still dealt with the unknown. Probably better examples.

I'm not talking at all about the unknowns like 'Why did they want to destroy us." I'm good with all of that but you just don't make these blaring safety and intelligent blunders in a multi-trillion dollar investigation.
 
Unexplored Alien World Landing Party Protocols:
* Bring no security. Ever.
* At earliest opportunity split the Landing Party up.
* The leader of the Landing Party should be an android or robot with a secret agenda.
* Touch everything. If possible bring everything back to the only means of escape.
* If members of you Landing Party become lost, cancel all watches and retire for the night.
* In case of suit shredding sudden storms immediately brave storm. Do Not stay in safety of shelter.

Alien Investigation Ship Protocols:
* Women Officers shall all requisition one (1) elite medical bay calibrated for men.
* Trust all androids.
* All escape modules must become wreckage upon impact from any height less than 100 feet.
* When scanning, all 'life' readings are to be considered glitches. Report such findings to the Landing party as a 'joke'.
* All Captains are allowed one completely irrelevant musical instrument.
* Alien autopsies should be conducted with one drunk scientist present at all times.
* Weather reports should be relayed to the Landing Party at last possible moment. If at all.

Android Safety Protocols:
* Kill everyone on board in order to possibly (most likely not) save one old man.
* Insult all superior alien sentients encountered.
* Never reveal communication from 'father'; unless pressed against a wall and question is repeated.
* When examining unknown alien devices, poking, crushing, snapping, disassembly and tasting are all recommended courses of investigation.

Earth Protection Policy:
* Crash vessel.
* Do not warn Earth.

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