Minsc said:Getting quite brave, posting public admission of downloading of entire,newlyun-released games on GAF. How times change.
Saren is Bad said:Well if you want to be that guy...
Minsc said:Well it does annoy me to see people downloading un-released games (it doesn't even come out in Europe til the 25th).
I guess anyone using the CFW patch in the official thread is likely using a pirated copy too (though it is possible they got a physical copy early I guess, so I'm not calling anyone out), since it's unlikely they obtained a legal copy to use their patch on.
mclem said:EvilMario, to be fair, does also say he's dumped a US UMD himself and it doesn't work, and he's downloading the EU one because that does. Personally, I'd regard that as within the realms of reasonability, but YMMV.
Why would you care about that in the first place anyway? If it's worth to you, to dish out 40 for this game, I don't see a problem there. I guess everyone has to decide that for him-/herself to wait for it to arrive or just go ISO. I usually can't wait, so I get my shit off the jap. PSN. But I really don't give a damn about what others do.Minsc said:So wait for a patch to be made/work on the NA version, if that is the case, or go to OFW if you can't wait. Downloading an entire game from another region other than you paid for (as if that wasn't questionable enough), much less announce it to everyone who is actually waiting for the Euro version to come out. I myself have had a Euro copy pre-ordered and will be waiting for it to arrive, in addition to having a US version. Should I just say screw it and download the Euro copy in advance? No.
I just find it very flaunting, and unnecessary. At least if you're going to download the entire game off the net don't advertise it to everyone else. I know a lot of people don't have issues with this when it comes to older system that are no longer available, like SNES ROMs etc, but we're talking about a game that came out yesterday.
It's just a little unrespectful I think, to read people say they are getting it from the net.
Mailenstein said:Why would you care about that in the first place anyway? If it's worth to you, to dish out 40 for this game, I don't see a problem there. I guess everyone has to decide that for him-/herself to wait for it to arrive or just go ISO. I usually can't wait, so I get my shit off the jap. PSN. But I really don't give a damn about what others do.
You said in the post above you already had the NA version. What's the problem?Minsc said:It makes it harder for me to wait for my copy to arrive, seeing others post they just download it. I guess if it's truly OK to download it, maybe I should too? I'm sure Square won't mind, since I even bought the Euro version.
Chemo said:You said in the post above you already had the NA version. What's the problem?
I'm certainly not suggesting it, but it wouldn't offend me if you did. They have your money already... times two, apparently, if you pre-ordered the European one as well.Minsc said:The NA doesn't work with the patch, and I'm not really fond of the idea of downloading the game off the net, but who knows, maybe that's not unreasonable after all.
Anonymous Tipster said:Alright, what really gets me are the "snarky" responses such as "There's a patch, google it." when in reality, that doesn't help at all with the NA version. Which is the version that came out yesterday and COINCIDENTALLY happens to be the same day people are asking about it.
Before posting, I attempted to google it, and I found what was probably the same site as EvilMario, concerning the EU patch. That isn't helpful to those of us with the NA version of the game.
The people claiming that there's a patch that works, either know something I don't (and at which point, why not provide a link instead of being an asshole?), haven't used said patch, or are pirating the EU version of the game.
Only one of those three are constructive and helpful, and it would be great if people took the time to be a little more considerate.
If all we can do is wait for a NA patch or update to the OFW, that's fine, but that's the kind of information I'm trying to get. And thanks to those who actually are trying to help, I'm not venting at you guys.
Minsc said:So wait for a patch to be made/work on the NA version, if that is the case, or go to OFW if you can't wait. Downloading an entire game from another region other than you paid for (as if that wasn't questionable enough), much less announce it to everyone who is actually waiting for the Euro version to come out. I myself have had a Euro copy pre-ordered and will be waiting for it to arrive, in addition to having a US version. Should I just say screw it and download the Euro copy in advance? No.
I just find it very flaunting, and unnecessary. At least if you're going to download the entire game off the net don't advertise it to everyone else. I know a lot of people don't have issues with this when it comes to older system that are no longer available, like SNES ROMs etc, but we're talking about a game that came out yesterday.
It's just a little unrespectful I think, to read people say they are getting it from the net.
Eh, it's not THAT easy to downgrade (unless something has changed during the last couple of days). You can downgrade to 6.20 from 6.31 and 6.35, but if you upgrade to 6.37 I think you're screwed for the time being. At least if you have a PSP Go or PSP-3000.Oyashiro said:Yeah, if you guys really can't wait like a week or so for a patch to be released for TO, just upgrade to OFW. You can always downgrade later if you need to go back to CFW/HEN
AndyMoogle said:Eh, it's not THAT easy to downgrade (unless something has changed during the last couple of days). You can downgrade to 6.20 from 6.31 and 6.35, but if you upgrade to 6.37 I think you're screwed for the time being. At least if you have a PSP Go or PSP-3000.
ColonelSkills said:Just trying to get all my facts in a row here.
There is no way to play the UMD version of the North American release of Tactics Ogre on a PSP-1000 running any sort of custom firmware at the moment (Personally I'm on 5.50 Prometheus but this doesn't exactly matter from what I can discern).
Currently, my options are to upgrade to 6.35 OFW and then downgrade every time I want to use popstation, or wait it out and then (likely) rip to ISO and patch it, since 6.20 HEN doesn't seem to work on the NA game right now either.
Running straight off the UMD seems unlikely any time soon? What if I return the UMD version and grab the PSN one? Will tools like psnfucker or whatnot help me out here or am I still boned for being on CFW at all.
Jinko said:Yea wouldn't work on 5.50 prome for me either so I'm using 6.20 TN-C and its working fine.
You can update back and forth using X-gen updater.
SonOfABeep said:so 6.20 TN-C is the way to go for Tactics Ogre umd version on PSPgo?
The ISO loader will play the game from the UMD drive?Median said:I'm not sure about on the GO, but that's what I did for my PSP-1000. I went from 5.50-Prome to 6.35 OFW, then I used the 6.35 to 6.20 downgrader. From there, I was able to use TN-C and the Prometheus ISO loader to play the game.
ColonelSkills said:The ISO loader will play the game from the UMD drive?
Is there any loss of functionality going from 5.50 Prometheus to 6.20 TN-C? In the case of not being able to roll back should I need to, I would like to know if I can still play my PS1 games on 6.20 TN-C, since I'm finding conflicting info on posts on gbatemp and psp-hacks and whatnot on what 6.20 TN-C can actually do compared to 5.50 Prometheus.
Median said:The ISO loader won't play from the UMD drive, you'd have to rip the game using something like ISO Tool.
I do believe you are losing some features by going from 5.50 Prometheus to 6.20 TN-C, since 6.20 TN-C isn't a full custom firmware. I don't think you can play your own PS1 games on 6.20 TN-C, but I'm not 100% sure about that.
ColonelSkills said:Regarding TO: For anyone who was/is in the same boat as me, here's the solution I used to play the UMD version of the North American release.
If you upgrade to the 6.35 that's on the disc and use it to play the game off the UMD, you can use the 6.35 downgrader to get to 6.20 OFW, from where you can go to 6.20 TN-C, which can run Recovery Flasher 1.65 to revert back to 5.50.
Takes like 10 minutes each time you go back and forth so it's far from optimal, which I recognize. But if anyone else wants to run it from the disc I think this is the only real way to do it at the moment.
Median said:The ISO loader won't play from the UMD drive, you'd have to rip the game using something like ISO Tool.
Arren said:I have read several reports about people having such issues with 6.35 PRO and all of its subsequent updates. I think the best thing you can do right now is:
1) update to 6.35 PRO-A3, the latest corresponding version of this LCFW that was released today, and see if the issues disappear
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No, definitely not.No_Style said:I have a PSP-1000 & PSP-2000 on 5.50 Prometheus. Should I update to 6.35 PRO-A3?
Oyashiro said:No, definitely not.
My PSP is a PSP-1000.Anonymous Tipster said:Thanks for sharing. I've been looking into the process of doing this, but one thing I can't seem to find is whether or not this works on a PSP-1000. So far it looks like I'd be able to get back down to 6.20 OFW, but I haven't been able to find a confirmation that 6.20 TN-C and then the Recovery Flasher works on the PSP-1000.
deim0s said:Haven't got my copy yet. I believe you're running a 6.35 game (which it requires) on 6.20 TN-C.