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[Nerevar]

I don't see a quick fix for this one - it's all dependent on finding a way to execute unsigned code or finding a way to sign code without Sony's permission. The former is unlikely and will always be subject to future patches, the latter is a lot of work, with a leak from within Sony being unlikely but perhaps the best hope.

The second method (finding a way to sign code without Sony's permission) is literally impossible without a leak from inside Sony. To brute force the encryption and find a valid set of keys would take more processing time than any of our current lifetimes. They're going to have to find a way to boot unsigned code using an exploit in a current game (which is why everyone keeps talking so hopefully about the Wipeout exploit), or else we'll never see homebrew stuffon anything other than a 1.0 PSP, IMO.

It's a shame that the PSP homebrew scene seems to have devolved into a collection of emulator ports and old games. Why can't somebody do something truly innovative, like write a web browser, an ebook reader or a wardriving app for it? Is it just that there aren't any developers doing PSP homebrew with enough skill for that sort of thing? If that's the case, it doesn't hold much hope for 1.5 being cracked.

You have to keep in mind that only a limited subset of people (people with japanese 1.0 PSPs) currently are able to write code for it. Once you find a way to exploit 1.5+ machines the number of people who have the ability to code for it will increase dramatically, and so will the community's output.

 

[Acosta]

It's a shame that the PSP homebrew scene seems to have devolved into a collection of emulator ports and old games. Why can't somebody do something truly innovative, like write a web browser, an ebook reader or a wardriving app for it? Is it just that there aren't any developers doing PSP homebrew with enough skill for that sort of thing? If that's the case, it doesn't hold much hope for 1.5 being cracked.

Well, you can try yourself!

A) It´s too soon. Homebrew developing really started like three weeks ago.

B) Never complain about someone is doing at it´s free time without asking nothing for it.

 

[tedtropy]

It's a shame that the PSP homebrew scene seems to have devolved into a collection of emulator ports and old games. Why can't somebody do something truly innovative, like write a web browser, an ebook reader or a wardriving app for it? Is it just that there aren't any developers doing PSP homebrew with enough skill for that sort of thing? If that's the case, it doesn't hold much hope for 1.5 being cracked.

You've got to be kidding me. You do realize the PSP hasn't exactly been out long, right? The things that have already developed in that time have been incredible. I also like how you equate the fact that they're not developing apps YOU want to a lack of skill on their behalf. Emulators aren't exactly the easiest things to create. So instead of being pessimistic and defeatist about the whole thing, why not appreciate the cool FREE new advances that are being made every day?

That aside, how are these emulators taking games originally designed for 4:3 TVs and filling up the 16:9 PSP screen? Is there some horizontal stretching going on? What I've seen so far is looking very promising.

 

[Dr. Zoidberg]

Is it just that there aren't any developers doing PSP homebrew with enough skill for that sort of thing?

Enough skill? You obviously aren't familiar with how difficult some of these emulators are to develop. The reason the games come first is because they are far more popular and wanted by the vast majority of PSP homebrew developers and scene-followers. If a Genny emu and an E-Book reader were released at the same time and had a download counter on them, I can assure you the hit counter on the Genny emu would be 20x the reader, if not more.

It's simple supply/demand, I guess.

 

[Danj]

You've got to be kidding me. You do realize the PSP hasn't exactly been out long, right? The things that have already developed in that time have been incredible. I also like how you equate the fact that they're not developing apps YOU want to a lack of skill on their behalf. Emulators aren't exactly the easiest things to create.

But the emulators already exist; these are just ports, aren't they? Otherwise how on earth did they get them up and running so quickly?

So instead of being pessimistic and defeatist about the whole thing, why not appreciate the cool FREE new advances that are being made every day?

I can't - my PSP, despite being a Japanese model, was shipped with 1.50 :lol

Your point is taken though; I apologise if my post sounded offensive or derogatory. As far as my own efforts are concerned, as soon as Adventure Player comes out I plan to get it and see if I can make a plaintext ebook reader using it.

 

[Wax Free Vanilla]

I haven't read the thread, but is there any news on a Sega Genesis emulator? I'd love to have all the best Sonic games on one handheld.

 

[Shompola]

But the emulators already exist; these are just ports, aren't they? Otherwise how on earth did they get them up and running so quickly?

BINGO!

 

[Acosta]

I haven't read the thread, but is there any news on a Sega Genesis emulator? I'd love to have all the best Sonic games on one handheld.

No at the moment, but it will come. You can start with Game Gear and Master Sysem.

 

[tedtropy]

But the emulators already exist; these are just ports, aren't they? Otherwise how on earth did they get them up and running so quickly?



I can't - my PSP, despite being a Japanese model, was shipped with 1.50 :lol

Your point is taken though; I apologise if my post sounded offensive or derogatory. As far as my own efforts are concerned, as soon as Adventure Player comes out I plan to get it and see if I can make a plaintext ebook reader using it.

Yeah, most if not all of these emulators are PC ports. But's they're impressive nonetheless, considering how utterly different the PSP's hardware is. I remember the GBA homebrew scene was alive before the system even came out. Looks like things will be a little tougher on the PSP due to its firmware, but I have faith.

 

[Danj]

Maybe we'll get lucky and Adventure Player will end up having some huge security hole in it or something

 

[EGM92]

All emulators are not just PC ports, some have to be rewrittten to be able for the PSP to be able to execute them properly and have more better functionality, such as better FPS or even Sounds.

a Web Browser Homebrew app is already in the works but the only way to execute it is to use the Wipeout Pure exploit, There is no other way to initia it at this point. The name is httPSP and it's already at version 1.2 but still needs a lot of work cause it won't recognize the http source of all webpages yet so it won't display them properly.

 

[quetz67]

A text reader already exists, although they dont call it an eBook reader. It is a multi-purpose reader

 

[VNZ]

Anyone got detailed impressions of the PC Engine emulator? Framerate, image quality (is it stretched, options for that etc), sound quality, etc.

Also, how annoying does the screen ghosting get with fast scrolling 2D?

 

[DJ_Tet]

Just crack 1.50 and I'll buy a new PSP.

Pretty fucking much. I don't care about NES games, my BGA has that covered. But when we're talking portable SNES and Genesis and PC Engine games, we're talking the best 2-D portable that may well ever exist.

I don't have a PSP, I didn't particularly want a PSP, but it looks like I'll get one as soon as these emus are running on US PSPs.



Some related questions that I don't think have been answered:

1. Does anyone know the technical reasoning on why 1.00 is so easy? to hack and 1.50 is impossible? People aren't saying "it's a matter of time" when I believe it's always a matter of time. What makes 1.5 unlikely to ever be hacked, according to public sentiment?

2. How are these screens being stretched within the context of the game? Even playing GB games stretched on my GBA bothered me, yet the PC Engine pics look to have perfect aspect ratios. Are the tops and bottoms of the screen being chopped off?

 

[mrklaw]

1.00 is easy to hack because it doesn't check if an executable has the correct electronic certificate.

Later firmwares do. And the encryption/DRM Sony use is AES based, which means you are pretty much fucked trying to crack it.

 

[Acosta]

Let's see:

The PC Engine emu works very well IMO (too well, it´s incredible, it´s far beyond any other emu for PSP).

I don´t know how they did it, but it supports various modes of view, including full screen and full screen with shading. It looks really nice, doen´t have any stretch and I am not able to detect anything wrong with it. Horizontal shoot´em up like R-Type or Parodius looks awesome. The framerate is not flawless, but it´s good enough with FrameSkip= 3, that is a value that gives it a good feeling of movement and without annoyances.

I would qualify the quality of music of pretty high, but I don´t trust myself enough to do it as my memory could be playing games with me. However, I think the sound has no major problems.

 

[rod]

so..any news on snes emu updates?

 

[AlphaSnake]

Man...I was playing Tetris DX last night...127 lines. I'm still so fucking pimp.

 

[EGM92]

a couple of beta vesions of snes9x have been released since the last major release but still not much progress, I think the coder is still trying to rewrite a good portion of the code to make it more stable, and added better compatibility.

 

[rod]

cAnt wait to play somethin like chrono trigger on it...do many games work on it at the moment? and with/without sound? what kind of glitches occur

 

[Wario64]

v0.002 of snes9x is out, suppose to improve speed and higher compatability

also another nes emulator out there, nesterj

 

[btrboyev]

I wouldn't hold out too much hope for a full speed snes emu anytime soon. Dreamcast never even got full speed and devs had far better tools to work with.

 

[dark10x]

I wouldn't hold out too much hope for a full speed snes emu anytime soon. Dreamcast never even got full speed and devs had far better tools to work with.

Who's to say tools won't improve here? We don't know what's in store.

The PSP has a faster CPU as well...

 

[harry2020]

I wouldn't hold out too much hope for a full speed snes emu anytime soon. Dreamcast never even got full speed and devs had far better tools to work with.

I disagree, the PSP is easily powerfull enough to run SNES stuff at full speed, just give them time, they've been at it for what, a few weeks?

 

[Bat]

Yeah, but the Deamcast is almost as powerful and it was very accessible for devs, yet they didn't really come close to a full speed SNES emu with sound, despite working on it for a very long time. Hmmm, maybe the PSP is powerful enough to get over the hump; should be interesting to see.

EDIT- And I doubt the deve tools will ever be leaked for the PSP like they were for the Dreamcast. That was ridiculous.

 

[btrboyev]

The DC should've been easily been able to handle snes as well too. PSP has a faster cpu but without some of the graphics chip helping out somewhat with the load it will be hard to get full speed, but not impossible, it will just take a long time I think. (To my knowledge none of the tools have been leaked right?)

 

[dark10x]

PSP has a faster cpu but without some of the graphics chip helping out somewhat with the load it will be hard to get full speed, but not impossible, it will just take a long time I think.

Yeah, but the PSP's graphics chip is more than up to the task and is more powerful in some respects. In regards to 2D images, the PSP is likely to be faster than the DC by quite a bit (when running at full clockspeeds).

We'll just have to wait and see.

 

[EGM92]

Well for all us Homebrew people, Beats of RAGE has been ported to the PSP!!

 

[Sho Nuff]

AHHHHHHHHH!!!

Now there's a Neo Geo CD emulator out!!!

AHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

 

[anotheriori]

dammit... wheres my hack for 1.5!!!!

 

[Defensor]

AHHHHHHHHH!!!

Now there's a Neo Geo CD emulator out!!!

AHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

holy crap.

 

[Justin Bailey]

AHHHHHHHHH!!!

Now there's a Neo Geo CD emulator out!!!

AHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

And now a Genesis one. Damn, we need some 1.5 support!

 

[kaching]

This thread is woefully lacking in pics of 1.0 PSPs running these games to further stoke my jealousy.

 

[Marty Chinn]

Apparently there is a Genesis emu out now too....

 

[duckroll]

AHHHHHHHHH!!!

Now there's a Neo Geo CD emulator out!!!

AHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

Hey you with a v1.0 PSP there, fuck off!! (alternatively, I'll trade you for my awesome v1.5 one!) :lol

 

[RunWhiteBoyRun]

Soon.. soon there will be a loader out.. I could care less about the backups, just gimmie emulated goodness on 1.5..

 

[Amakusa]

How do you know if you're PSP is Ver 1.0?

 

[Funky Papa]

Why, why did I upgrade my precious japanese PSP? =(

 

[duckroll]

Why, why did I upgrade my precious japanese PSP? =(

Because we are brothers in arms, and now we all suffer together! >_<

 

[ourumov]

Kof96/99 pics !!!!!!!!!

 

[Sho Nuff]

Because we are brothers in arms, and now we all suffer together! >_<

Just go out to your local Sofmap and ask to try the used PSPs until you find a 1.0.

OH WAIT YOU CAN'T LOLOLOL

Spoiler

Don't worry, I'm sure the day after you would FINALLY track down a 1.0 PSP, Team Xecuter will release some magical serve-all loader.

 

[Danj]

Soon.. soon there will be a loader out.. I could care less about the backups, just gimmie emulated goodness on 1.5..

Personally I'd take that with a pinch of salt. Every time there's been someone announcing a hack which might work on 1.5 it's been complete bull (usually because it was PSPhacker.com overhyping it and getting it completely wrong in the process). Now you're expecting me to believe some random warez group that I haven't even heard of are going to actually release a loader? 1. I refuse to believe it until I see some evidence (and I don't mean screenshots, there's been so many fake ones of those it's just not funny any more) and 2. it's a BAD thing if a warez group releases it, because it gives homebrew a bad rep.

 

[ourumov]

Actually the revolution bussiness model would make a lot more sense on the PSP...What a pitty Sony is late now...

 

[duckroll]

Just go out to your local Sofmap and ask to try the used PSPs until you find a 1.0.

OH WAIT YOU CAN'T LOLOLOL

Spoiler

Don't worry, I'm sure the day after you would FINALLY track down a 1.0 PSP, Team Xecuter will release some magical serve-all loader.

;_;

You're so mean! You should be banned until the v1.5 firmware is cracked! >_<

 

[Sho Nuff]

;_;

You're so mean! You should be banned until the v1.5 firmware is cracked! >_<

Oh no whatever will I do? ...OH I KNOW I'LL JUST PLAY GUNSTAR HEROES AND KING OF FIGHTERS 99 ON MY PSP AHAHHAHAHHA!

BTW, you can get 1.0's on eBay. Move quick!

 

[duckroll]

Oh no whatever will I do? ...OH I KNOW I'LL JUST PLAY GUNSTAR HEROES AND KING OF FIGHTERS 99 ON MY PSP AHAHHAHAHHA!

Murders have been committed over more trivial issues than this.... don't make me do it man! >_<

Edit: Here's a deal, pics of Alien Soldier running on your PSP will make up for all this. We need something to believe in.

 

[ourumov]

If the KOFs run in any form...please SHOW THEM !!!!

 

[rod]

what (in other peoples opinion) will come first.

1.5 haxx0red or being able to reflash your firmware to an older vers.

 

[Acosta]

I would love to test it, but actually I haven't any Neo Geo CD rom

 

[AndreasNystrom]

how do you play the cd-s?
Use isos on memorystick? or?