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Reddit CEO Pao steps down
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EightBitNate
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They chose a strange bunch of subreddits to ban. For example, r/coontown is still around (and Pao even said it wouldn't get banned). Also, the NeoGAF hate sub got banned despite it being an extremely small community compared to other hate subreddits.
Trojita
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That's if what Pao is saying is true. Who truly fired Victoria?
The rumors were that Victoria was removed because she was being pressured to add advertitising to IAMA's.
They also rewarded all the people on Reddit who were hoping for a good, qualified leader. Maybe they'll get one now. Maybe not.
If I had all the correct numbers for last week's lottery, I would have been rich!
Truth is, the mods never had the balls to keep it going because doing so for long enough might have truly killed Reddit. Without a source to fill out their power fantasy (as many can attest to the power mods of Reddit), what would be left for them?
Going dark for 12 hours on a Friday evening really wasn't more than a faux "power play." Which, of course, they folded on quickly.
Reddit is open source.
cyberheater
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I have to agree with this. It seems like a worse move for Reddit users. On the other hand. I've no idea why she's so disliked.
RustyNails
Member
Bai Pao
More importantly they likely made a solid business decision. Pao was incompetent.
ZeroGravity
Member
Find me an issue that does not involve a certain segment of people making sexist and racist remarks. It doesn't mean they're at all representative of the actual discourse.
This doesn't make a lick of sense. You don't build your policy around irking bigots, and denying them their sick giddy pleasure. That is on them, you shouldn't give them power either way.
It's really pathetic and makes it harder to sympathize with the reddit users.
Trojita
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Reddits comment was that fatpeoplehate and the neogafhate subreddit were targetting specific people for ridicule outside the subreddit. Reddit's response is apparently that you can hate as long as you keep it in the subreddit.
Yeah it seemed random and it was communicated poorly.
Maninthemirror
Banned
This is good. She didn't have any connection to the community and it showed. She tried to turn Reddit into a business first but it's a community first.
The one common integer in the recent Reddit controversies is poor communication.
She could always run for President.
ZeroGravity
Member
I suppose only if you generalize all people who use Reddit.
That good ole reddit humor.
She made out how she wanted. Aggressively climbed the corporate ladder and called foul for not making positions she wasn't qualified for. She lands this position, and despite still not being competant she now has CEO experience under her belt. She has enough supporters and a bolstered resume. This interim CEO stepping stone is pretty much what she was looking for following the fallout of her previous corporate role.
Trojita
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Also I got to lol at anyone in Reddit commenting about the level of hate or racism being spewed as surprising.
It's like announcing you have an event for racists, with food catered, and wonder why they showed up.
"We totally don't understand why there is racism rampant here when we have a subreddit still opened named /r/coontown".
It's like announcing you have an event for racists, with food catered, and wonder why they showed up.
"We totally don't understand why there is racism rampant here when we have a subreddit still opened named /r/coontown".
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
What exactly did she do wrong? She banned subreddits like fatpeoplehate. Surely that's a good thing? Yes, it's weird that other subs which spout the same bile were left unbanned, but it's a step in the right direction?
The mod for iama that got de-modded, was it Pao that did this? I'm not too sure of the ins and outs of the whole ordeal.
People on Reddit won't change though. They'll just find something else to hate and someone else to direct their anger to.
LightofRohan
Member
Yea, they should have forced her to stay to teach everyone a lesson?
She was doing a pretty poor job, it was bad for her and everyone else. I hate how everyone treated her, but she shouldn't have been put into that in the first place.
You can be a hateful little shit on reddit if you keep it to your subreddit. The subs that have their members venture out to harass other users got banned.
Choice bits from the reddit post:
Midnight Bliss
Member
This needed to happen. I'm pretty shocked at some of the support she actually had by people here.
didn't they specifically say that those subreddits were organizing harassment on the site and posting dox
that's not really random
Trojita
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Fired a gaffer after lying to him.
I don't agree with a lot of the decisions Reddit has made but holy shit was some of the things people said about her disgusting.
I wouldn't be surprised if she wasn't responsible for most of the bad calls but part of the job of being a CEO is being the fall guy when things go bad. It's just a shame so many horrible people used it as a focal point to express their gross views.
I know it was a very vocal minority who were taking it too far, but for some people it stopped being about her and more about finally having an outlet to express how much they hated women.
I wouldn't be surprised if she wasn't responsible for most of the bad calls but part of the job of being a CEO is being the fall guy when things go bad. It's just a shame so many horrible people used it as a focal point to express their gross views.
I know it was a very vocal minority who were taking it too far, but for some people it stopped being about her and more about finally having an outlet to express how much they hated women.
Basically refuse to communicate with the people who run and provide a great majority of the content for.
Lessee. Going from memory, there was the controversy over her decision to ban salary negotiations (to combat sexism because women are worse negotiators, her words, not mine), those subs got banned under her watch (which I personally find a good thing for reddit), the Victoria firing, she fired a guy for having cancer for too long (and he posts here).
And there's the controversy over her discrimination lawsuit which got dismissed, her hubbys ongoing fraud case and her curious monetary demands from her lawsuits, like demanding millions to stop appealing the dismiss ruling.
The problem is: why did those terrible subreddits get shut down, when a bunch of other terrible subreddits were allowed to prosper?
They other problem is: ban /fatpeoplehate and they just create a bunch of new similar subreddits, or worse, take over r/pics or something.
Yup. People need to stop turning this into the next gamergate; Pao is a terrible leader
wanderingprostheyltite
Member
Wait, the board had a "more" aggressive view than her? In regards to what? Curious if they wanted even more tightly controlled and monetization schemes for things like that video AMA deal that was discussed.
isnt neogaf a business evilore the CEO/BAMF?
because it wasn't about the content of the subreddits, it was about their behavior. it was against site rules.
mind you, i'd ban coontown and the subs with pictures of dead people and all that shit if it were up to me, but that's not what that move was about.
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