Reddit finally bans "Coontown", "WatchN*****sDie", & animated child porn forums
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Sunset Samurai
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Guy beside Obama is going
"What are those!?"
As someone who posts on GAF this surprises you? That shit would be here too if the mods allowed it. We've already had threads here where people defended it.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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They think people who talk about race all the time are the real racists because they know how much they talk about it in shitholes like these.
freenudemacusers
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hey man figure gaf is gone now; progress has been made!
'harmless' maybe, but a) still gross b) yep gross c) probably does little (or the opposite) to quell desires and impulses. and of course who wants to run a business that shelters gross creeps, even if they are shoved into a small corner.
I love how people get instantly suspicious when people pull those argument here, you can tell they picked that one out somewhere, like the "Drawings dont hurt no one".
Edit: Oh..
Man I've seen some shit over on gaming side.
Gordon Shumway
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Indeed..surprised at his surprise as well.
Gordon Shumway
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Quite, you! lol..
Just how many loli subreddits does one website need?
freeofgreed
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The trouble with this is that murder can also be described in almost the same manner. I mean it would be better for everyone if talk about violence was put at a minimum as well from a moral standpoint right?
That's why I like Reddits general stance of minimal policing. It becomes a slippery slope on what they should police and shouldn't, when they are trying to keep the cite relatively free and with an unbiased moderation structure. That inherently means there will be shit discussed that some people will be offended by, and well, tough shit.
As long as it doesn't harm the site's financial stability, that is
Massive Duck. C.M.
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Well, the important distinction is that it's prohibited here from jump, and not just for financial reasons.
Big Green Anus
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"raccons are n*gg*rs"? I don't want to look, but how does that make sense? It's things like this that makes me not want to sign up an account for Reddit 
oh my god
"/r/Obito"? God dammnit, they named a loli sub (I'm assuming) after my favourite character in Naruto? This site is always finding new ways to piss me off.
ZombiePlatypus
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I feel like people's experience with reddit is highly dependent on what subreddits you frequent. It can be the best or the worst of the Internet, depending on where you end up.
Good to see these subs get banned though. Although, as far as my 2 cents are concerned, I dunno how I feel about banning animated CP subs. Yea it's abhorrent, but isn't it better that these people aleviate their urges through fictional , animated outlets rather than abusing an actual victim?
Good to see these subs get banned though. Although, as far as my 2 cents are concerned, I dunno how I feel about banning animated CP subs. Yea it's abhorrent, but isn't it better that these people aleviate their urges through fictional , animated outlets rather than abusing an actual victim?
Reddit would need to micromanage it to ensure no real porn is being posted(want that job? ) is their rationale I'd imagine as well as it being a gross thing to have on your business.
freeofgreed
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Out of curiosity what was wrong with figureGaf? (I've never been so idk what it was like there)
I think it's fine to have a discussion, but is a sub called WatchNiggersDie really a part of a discussion?
I'm sure they were open to discussing racism rationally man!
This is nonsense.
Charlie Hebdo was publishing things and others were attempting to terrorize them through violence to make them stop. Reddit is policing its own users acting on its own servers. There is literally no useful comparison to be made. It's essentially the same as me blowing up your house for putting up a campaign sign, and you taking the TV from your child because they used profanity. It's two separate things entirely.
Jarts were a brand of lawn darts. Lawn darts were banned. I think it was probably an attempt to recreate one of the other banned subs with a 'clever' name.
Reddit itself is not a community. Reddit houses communities. It's a place that tries to be agnostic and show no opinion about any topic discussed. Its like the Internet itself in a way... Search for bad shit and you will find bad shit.
That's why their explanation of the bans is on point. The issue wasn't the racist or sick views, because reddit itself has no opinion on any view. But if a community threatens Reddits existence then it will have to go.
Reddit is not neogaf. Neogaf would be a community housed by reddit that can be moderated however it wants
Massive Duck. C.M.
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Consider the intelligence of the people involved
Nothing really, just the same stuff you'd see in AnimeGAF (the good and the bad) but in 3D plastic form instead of 2D animation.
freeofgreed
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I hate this reasoning. There is no overall moderation/owners for the internet, there is for reddit. Also reddit fully has the power to ban subreddits. The internet does not have power to shut down individual websites.
Lol I do not go to animeGaf either so you'll need to be a bit more specific.
I missed what the last straw was, but there were more and more, uh... lewd (I can't think of another word atm) figurines being posted over time and it eventually crossed a line.
Kite
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I don't mind reddit banning these racist and illegal subs, I didn't even know they existed and have no wish to visit or be associated with em. What does annoys me are people who try to paint reddit as some racist site.
r/CoonTown 20,888
/r/Lolicons 12,339
ermm..
r/lgbt 108,370
r/ainbow 37,583
r/feminism 51,731
r/twoXchromosomes 3,352,350
r/AskWomen 208,572
I don't get it, you can find anything and everything on reddit and these tiny little subreddits are supposed to represent all reddit posters? lol
r/CoonTown 20,888
/r/Lolicons 12,339
ermm..
r/lgbt 108,370
r/ainbow 37,583
r/feminism 51,731
r/twoXchromosomes 3,352,350
r/AskWomen 208,572
I don't get it, you can find anything and everything on reddit and these tiny little subreddits are supposed to represent all reddit posters? lol
Massive Duck. C.M.
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You didn't know they existed even though they're mentioned around here on a weekly basis?
As for the ones you don't get, take a peek inside
freeofgreed
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Lol I just went to go check and it does indeed look like shit hit the fan over there.
I'm sorry but if a site has 21,000 people subscribed to a communitty called coontown that's enough for me to call it a racist site.
Ohhhh. You know, that's actually sort of clever.
smokeandmirrors
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Not only that but they bled into the comments. You couldn't step foot in /r/news or /r/worldnews or /r/askreddit or many other big subreddits without wading into a pile of racist shit
I like that view though. It basically means that if you want to talk about something, whatever it is, you can do it on reddit. That's their selling point really. You can't talk about whatever you want on neogaf, for example. Even things that might not be as straight forward to hate like that subreddit you mentioned. Once you start policing reddit as a whole then the site itself becomes a community which they don't want. The goal is not to be a place like neogaf, but to be a place where infinite neogafs can spawn
Again, exactly like the Internet. It's actually just like Google in a way. Sure Google can't take sites down, but they can certainly eliminate search results if they wanted. And they do this occasionally when issued complaints.... But not every complaint is accepted. Because Google itself does not judge it just provides what others create
Reddit does not judge, it just provides what others create. The strength in that is that you know they will not ever shut down discussion due to personal viewpoints of staff members
Massive Duck. C.M.
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Kite
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lol and the 100,000 people subscribed to r/lgbt make reddit.. what according to your standards?
I'm vaguely aware of all sort of wierd shit on the internet like darknet, silkroad, snuff sites.. so what? It doesn't and shouldn't represent the internet as a whole, so I'm not sure why a handful of small racist subs are supposed to represent reddit. Especially when they are dwarfed by everything else.
edit:
last month, reddit had
195,209,169 unique visitors
yesterday, reddit powered
10,235
active communities
onsisting of over
3,646,626
logged in redditors
10,000 subscribers to some minor racist sub ain't shit.
https://www.reddit.com/about
Chezzymann
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Theres tens of millions of people on reddit.
Haha well I don't know enough about reddit as a whole to know if they stay true to that. But that's the image they are trying to maintain for sure
freeofgreed
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I think that's a stretch. What is that max number of concurrent user that have been logged on? Also that number is irrelevant when you factor in the dozens of other racist subreddits, plus all the vile shit you see in the main ones.
entremet
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I'm actually fine with Reddit's original free speech ideal.
My issue is how quickly they abandon that due to money concerns and how clueless they've been.
If you want to be mass market product, you need some moderation. But the founders were just clueless.
There's a reason these big corporations immediately fire or distance themselves from bigotry. It's not out of the goodness of their hearts.
He's correct. Reddit is massive.
It gets 190 million uniques per month!
Here are their stats:
https://www.reddit.com/about/
My issue is how quickly they abandon that due to money concerns and how clueless they've been.
If you want to be mass market product, you need some moderation. But the founders were just clueless.
There's a reason these big corporations immediately fire or distance themselves from bigotry. It's not out of the goodness of their hearts.
He's correct. Reddit is massive.
It gets 190 million uniques per month!
Here are their stats:
https://www.reddit.com/about/
Miss.Selfdestruct
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The thing that made Reddit a deal breaker for me for years is their voting system. Gaf has its load of idiots. But at least I can scroll past it and get to actual conversations that stay on topic or bring up points of interest.
Also glad these subforums have been taken down. But far from impressed since they facilitated those communities for years.
Stumpokapow
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Most people in a wartorn country don't die, but we still characterize a wartorn country as "unusually dangerous" not "relatively peaceful". Same goes for any other number of barometers. If 25% of students in class are cheating, it's not a class of mostly honest students, it's a class of unusual dishonesty.It all depends where your baseline barometer is. What are your prior assumptions?
Relative to internet communities generally, and particular forum-type communities with age and demographic profiles otherwise similar to reddit...
Claude Augario
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Reddit
Not racist but #1 with racists.
Not racist but #1 with racists.
The stats are gone due to r/CT's banning, but r/CTs monthly unique visitor count in June and July had hit about 75-80% of the unique hits that Stormfront gets. And that's just one portion of the now-extinct "Chimpire".
Sub numbers alone do not an analysis make.
EDIT: Also, it's more about Reddit harboring what used to be a quickly-growing racist population and allowing them to run pretty much rampant across the site without consequences. Until today, of course.
freeofgreed
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For the sake of what we're discussing I think logged in views would be a more appropriate stat, and from that site, last month they had 3.5 million logged in users. Which is large I agree, but I still don't think that discounts the fact that a significant portion of its userbase is racist, not all obviously, but enough to make the site seem very questionable.
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