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Report: NX Handheld Dimensions, Layout Info, Lack of Region Lock

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Kimawolf

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I feel like the NX will be revealed next week, or the week after next for sure. I am betting it'll be a direct with a press invitational to play the damn thing so after the direct they can give impressions.

I imagine it'll be a 50 minute or so direct as well.
 

gafneo

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This so called new info is basically just a fake copying part of the real leak. My theory is that the tablet will be like a Sheikah Slate that you can activate NFC unlocks. It will be pocket sized since Nintendo wants everyone to have one on them. Never has Nintendo needed an oversized portable. The 2 wii motes that attach will also clip to a dock whenever at home. There will only be basic buttons and a large touch freeform screen.

The only point of the controllers and docks is to play ps4 type games at home. On the go will be mostly casual wii u looking games.
 

ggx2ac

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Which wouldn't make sense since Emily said the NX was ahead of schedule.

I already gave my reasons 5-10 pages ago why it makes no sense for Nintendo to do an Apple style launch. (A dedicated video game machine does not compare to a Smartphone when it comes to the mass market.)

Even someone else pointed out how the original iPhone and iWatch had around 6 months from reveal to launch.

The NX is a new product, not a revision. Even that NES Mini-Classic which was revealed in August still gives it a few months before release but, that is a familiar product because it caters to people who use to play NES games.
 

Outrun

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Yeah. Nintendo's feelings matter way more than those of the people buying their products. Way more.

I just feel like something's wrong if they need to wait this long. All that you need for a good reveal is a good selection of titles to show off and a good explanation of the hardware and it's capabilities. Not being ready to show 6 months before launch means at least one of three things:

  1. The hardware is extremely hard to explain, which means that marketing troubles are sure to happen.
  2. The launch titles aren't in a presentable state or there aren't enough of them, meaning that we should expect the "launch window" crap they pulled with 3DS and Wii U.
  3. They don't want to step on either their own or their competitors' toes by announcing too close to them.

Only the last one isn't necessarily a bad sign, but even then that's part of why I think January is likely (with the other part being that they're certainly going to hold a January event with launch details either way). If they don't reveal by the end of October, I think that we'll be past the point f them simply not being ready with no issues

I agree.

Sam Walton of Walmart said something to the effect that the consumer is the boss. They have the power to hire and fire anyone including the CEO.

I agree that whinny and rude posts are counterproductive. However, it is my belief that more clearer communications would be more agreeable to what we have at the moment.... Endless speculation.
 
I already gave my reasons 5-10 pages ago why it makes no sense for Nintendo to do an Apple style launch. (A dedicated video game machine does not compare to a Smartphone when it comes to the mass market.)

Even someone else pointed out how the original iPhone and iWatch had around 6 months from reveal to launch.

The NX is a new product, not a revision. Even that NES Mini-Classic which was revealed in August still gives it a few months before release but, that is a familiar product because it caters to people who use to play NES games.
We're 6 days into September, guys.
 

Yado

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Yeah. Nintendo's feelings matter way more than those of the people buying their products. Way more.

I just feel like something's wrong if they need to wait this long. All that you need for a good reveal is a good selection of titles to show off and a good explanation of the hardware and it's capabilities. Not being ready to show 6 months before launch means at least one of three things:

  1. The hardware is extremely hard to explain, which means that marketing troubles are sure to happen.
  2. The launch titles aren't in a presentable state or there aren't enough of them, meaning that we should expect the "launch window" crap they pulled with 3DS and Wii U.
  3. They don't want to step on either their own or their competitors' toes by announcing too close to them.

Only the last one isn't necessarily a bad sign, but even then that's part of why I think January is likely (with the other part being that they're certainly going to hold a January event with launch details either way). If they don't reveal by the end of October, I think that we'll be past the point f them simply not being ready with no issues


Maybe they're trying to create some distance between their next product and the toxic stench of the Wii U.
 
In what way though? If the system was ready but not the games then it's still useless. The GameCube was delayed because the games weren't ready, not the hardware.

This is one of the more likely reasons I can think of too. If one of the big selling points of the NX is going to be a unified library then they're going to need a pretty large amount of trailers, which requires those games to be in a state which can be showed off adequately.
 
They don't have to work any magic, just get rid of Android and its shitty libraries. A TX1 used with Vulkan in a console built specifically for gaming will leave PS360 (and Wii U) in the dust. That's a fact. Just look at the specs.

If we want to believe these rumors, maybe we should remember that one of them clearly states that the NX will use a Pascal based chip. And about that other post:


If you want to use this... logic, then we are already past that phase. The console described in these rumors is certainly underwhelming specs wise compared to the Polaris based console between PS4 and Neo in power, and even the concept isn't that great for many people.


What makes you think Nintendo can make an OS any better than Android ?? Have you used a Wii , Wii U , and or a 3ds... It was really bad.

Also the API used in consoles goes way lower than vulkan. I doubt Nintendo is going to use vulkan tbh.. if they did that would be a first step to making things a lot easier for third parties. I guess tegra does have vulkan support already.
 
What makes you think Nintendo can make an OS any better than Android ?? Have you used a Wii , Wii U , and or a 3ds... It was really bad.

Also the API used in consoles goes way lower than vulkan. I doubt Nintendo is going to use vulkan tbh.. if they did that would be a first step to making things a lot easier.
Console level OS is considerably more efficient than Android which has a lot of baggage.
Nintendo's also part of the Khronos group, the group behind Vulkan, so I'd hope they're ready to adopt it
 

ggx2ac

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If NX is delayed, Nintendo will make it publicly known by the end of October.

Which, funnily enough. I was the one pointing out for the last few weeks that October 27th will have Nintendo's next financial briefing/Q&A since we'd know then what is going on with NX if Nintendo hasn't revealed it by then. It's the last one for the calendar year.
 
This is one of the more likely reasons I can think of too. If one of the big selling points of the NX is going to be a unified library then they're going to need a pretty large amount of trailers, which requires those games to be in a state which can be showed off adequately.
This is why like I've said before Retros game(s) will absolutely be there and Mario should be there. This is Nintendos future cornerstone after the failure of the Wii U and if their plan is to ride NX for a couple of years, then they need to go ham to make it sell.
 

Speely

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What if the mobile "compatibility" is part of a companion app that releases way before the NX itself? Integrates Pokemon Go, Miitomo. Gets potential adopters used to the platform and also acts as a direct (hah) means of product awareness.

Basically the kind of companion platform app tying the NX to mobile some folks have speculated about, but happening before release that is a specific part of a new release model?

I probably just have NX fever. Hope I don't get us bodmotted.
 

ggx2ac

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I was thinking about how yesterday someone was talking about Nintendo's blue ocean strategy for the Wii catering to untapped markets.

It makes me feel like NX unlike the Wii U would cater to a lot of demographics. If my speculation is right with how the NX having detachable controls means it gives the option for people to just play with touch screen controls only, it's going to be a big deal.

I know its not really a blue ocean but, you'd have a machine that plays traditional retail priced games, has indie games, has Wii-like controllers and then, if it has the backing of mobile game developers, it can be a big deal having f2p games on there regardless of how you feel about it.

The NX isn't a smartphone but, if it can offer the same games that Smartphones provide plus traditional games, I'd say it caters to more demographics to be an appealing product than what the Wii U did.

The 3DS shows there's still a market for traditional handheld games as well although it is diminishing, this is why it's best to provide a product that can cater to the smartphone demographic and the handheld demographic.

I don't really have much to say about the home console demographic, all we can see is that's its easier for Nintendo to invest in mobile SoCs because they are designed for efficiency more than power compared to Nintendo trying to go for power making a PS4-like console.
 
What if the mobile "compatibility" is part of a companion app that releases way before the NX itself? Integrates Pokemon Go, Miitomo. Gets potential adopters used to the platform and also acts as a direct (hah) means of product awareness.

Basically the kind of companion platform app tying the NX to mobile some folks have speculated about, but happening before release that is a specific part of a new release model?

I probably just have NX fever. Hope I don't get us bodmotted.
I've stated what I think the statement meant. Basically, MyNintendo cloud data from Nintendo's mobile games can transfer over to NX.
An example would be MiiMaker connecting to the Miitomo cloud data and you can have your system's avatar dressed up like in Miitomo.
Another example would be getting new troops in Fire Emblem mobile or getting clothes, bells, and furniture in Animal Crossing mobile
 

ggx2ac

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I've stated what I think the statement meant. Basically, MyNintendo cloud data from Nintendo's mobile games can transfer over to NX.
An example would be MiiMaker connecting to the Miitomo cloud data and you can have your system's avatar dressed up like in Miitomo.
Another example would be getting new troops in Fire Emblem mobile or getting clothes, bells, and furniture in Animal Crossing mobile

I'm not expecting much about Nintendo's mobile phone games being compatible with the equivalent console game yet.

There's an Animal Crossing Nintendo Direct happening in November? Either the mobile game is out before hand or released at the same time because it will be revealed there.

Smartphone gamers will play the mobile game and possibly be drawn to the 3DS Animal Crossing game. (Which was why the 3DS game got all those updates. *Cough*)

This is comparing it with Pokémon Go and how DS and 3DS sales of Pokémon games rose as an effect from the popularity of Pokémon Go.
 

Neoxon

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What if the mobile "compatibility" is part of a companion app that releases way before the NX itself? Integrates Pokemon Go, Miitomo. Gets potential adopters used to the platform and also acts as a direct (hah) means of product awareness.

Basically the kind of companion platform app tying the NX to mobile some folks have speculated about, but happening before release that is a specific part of a new release model?

I probably just have NX fever. Hope I don't get us bodmotted.
The report about Nintendo's own mobile games being compatible likely refers to the games made under their partnership with DeNA. Pokémon GO isn't amongst those games, so I wouldn't be too sure about that on the NX. Plus there's supposedly no camera on the NX, anyway. And let's be honest, Pokémon GO may end up with a fraction of its existing audience by March.

Though if you ask me, it'll most likely be for stuff like carrying over your Miitomo clothes to your NX Mii, or transferring your furniture from Animal Crossing Mobile to the NX game.
 

Vanillalite

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Going back to my Calendar theories.

It's now Sept 7th. If we assume 3 weeks ahead for a live announcement here we go...


That basically mean the 28th at the earliest.

If we assume they wouldn't announce on a Friday they basically have Wed and Thurs of this week to send invites to make the Sept cut off.

So yeah all signs point to October for a live event if we go off the 3 week theory.
 

Speely

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The report about Nintendo's own mobile games being compatible likely refers to the games made under their partnership with DeNA. Pokémon GO isn't amongst those games, so I wouldn't be too sure about that on the NX. Plus there's supposedly no camera on the NX, anyway. And let's be honest, Pokémon GO may end up with a fraction of its existing audience by March.

Though if you ask me, it'll most likely be for stuff like carrying over your Miitomo clothes to your NX Mii, or transferring your furniture from Animal Crossing Mobile to the NX game.

Oh! When I said "integrates" P Go, etc, I didn't mean it would be on the NX. Poor wording on my part. I just meant a companion app that could integrate some kind of data transfer or achievement-based interaction between the NX and the mobile games Nintendo is involved in, even if not Pokemon Go. I was just thinking of ways that Nintendo could get an app up and running this year that would be a bridge between their mobile gaming and the NX that could help them push the NX through a different means before it launches.
 

ggx2ac

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Going back to my Calendar theories.

It's now Sept 7th. If we assume 3 weeks ahead for a live announcement here we go...



That basically mean the 28th at the earliest.

If we assume they wouldn't announce on a Friday they basically have Wed and Thurs of this week to send invites to make the Sept cut off.

So yeah all signs point to October for a live event if we go off the 3 week theory.

That, is if we think Nintendo are inviting the press, or that they have but are under NDA.

It's still possible that Nintendo want try to reveal the thing themselves, let the buzz spread on social media, give out press kits and then let the press give impressions from hands-on demos sometime later.
 

maxcriden

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Going back to my Calendar theories.

It's now Sept 7th. If we assume 3 weeks ahead for a live announcement here we go...

That basically mean the 28th at the earliest.

If we assume they wouldn't announce on a Friday they basically have Wed and Thurs of this week to send invites to make the Sept cut off.

So yeah all signs point to October for a live event if we go off the 3 week theory.

All true unless invites have already been sent and discussing them is under NDA. (Or unless there is an announcement independent prior to any press event.)
 

MDave

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I think Nintendo will still keep their word on revealing something NX related this month if not everything is ready to be shown yet. Wii console was revealed first, before the Wii name, remote and games were shown I believe? Same sort of thing could happen here. That way they spread the hype and anticipation over the next 6 months with exciting tid bits, keeping NX news and hype relevant. Instead of blowing their load all in one go, and you don't hear anything new for 6 months.
 
I think Nintendo will still keep their word on revealing something NX related this month if not everything is ready to be shown yet. Wii console was revealed first, before the Wii name, remote and games were shown I believe? Same sort of thing could happen here. That way they spread the hype and anticipation over the next 6 months with exciting tid bits, keeping NX news and hype relevant. Instead of blowing their load all in one go, and you don't hear anything new for 6 months.
They never said September.
 

Neoxon

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I think Nintendo will still keep their word on revealing something NX related this month if not everything is ready to be shown yet. Wii console was revealed first, before the Wii name, remote and games were shown I believe? Same sort of thing could happen here. That way they spread the hype and anticipation over the next 6 months with exciting tid bits, keeping NX news and hype relevant. Instead of blowing their load all in one go, and you don't hear anything new for 6 months.
Eurogamer were the ones who said September, not Nintendo. All Nintendo said was "this Fall".

nx is basically a 3ds successor with power x2 of the 3ds.

Can't say I'm surprised
It's way more than 2x the 3DS. Plus it's supposedly a Wii U successor just as much as it is a 3DS successor.
 
I think Nintendo will still keep their word on revealing something NX related this month if not everything is ready to be shown yet. Wii console was revealed first, before the Wii name, remote and games were shown I believe? Same sort of thing could happen here. That way they spread the hype and anticipation over the next 6 months with exciting tid bits, keeping NX news and hype relevant. Instead of blowing their load all in one go, and you don't hear anything new for 6 months.
MetalDave
 

ggx2ac

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I think Nintendo will still keep their word on revealing something NX related this month if not everything is ready to be shown yet. Wii console was revealed first, before the Wii name, remote and games were shown I believe? Same sort of thing could happen here. That way they spread the hype and anticipation over the next 6 months with exciting tid bits, keeping NX news and hype relevant. Instead of blowing their load all in one go, and you don't hear anything new for 6 months.

The Wii was revealed over a period longer than 6 months if we start from the Project Revolution reveal.

Nintendo will reveal whatever and just expect any more possible software reveals the following year.
 
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