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[maxcriden]

I don't see the 12th (Monday) being realistic, unless they literally announce it's happening today.

Right now I think post-TGS makes the most sense. A press conference just makes sense for a big new hardware announcement like this, and that requires proper advance warning for the press. It's possible they could just spring an out of nowhere Direct but I really don't see that happening this time.

Maybe we'd get a Direct simultaneously with a Press Conference (which we don't see) but there would still be a Press Conference.

People want it to be Pre-TGS because that allows devs to announce games for it there, but devs can announce games for it whenever they want. Including a Nintendo-specific announcement event where they wheel out each dev on stage to talk about what they're bringing to the system.

I agree with you. We just don't know if press already has gotten invites to an event. For the non-press, though, I think a Direct is the cleanest way to deliver the message and control the messaging. They don't want another Skyward presentation or similar mishap and making events live opens you up to many more possible issues.

Right, and one month won't make a huge difference in 2016-2017 when the Internet is available to transmit information and advertising instantly.

First report was they were planning a September reveal, and second report was it was ahead of schedule. It was also delayed from this spring if early accounts are to be believed.

Agreed, and FWIW, I think we can safely believe at least the Trev leak, which has been highly proven at this point and indicated a plan to release Zelda and NX this Holiday season. In that scenario, I imagine we'd have seen a reveal at E3 at the latest, which going by the traditional November launch month would have been ~5 months before release.

 

[AdanVC]

Hm, why would that be the last chance for this month? There are still plenty of days after TGS.

Well I suppose because of the fresh batch of rumors saying that now the reveal could be in early october and all that jazz : / I simply don't know what to believe anymoaar!

Miyamoto doesn't have to be in the US for the NX reveal. What I think could be happening is interviews that get released post NX announcement.

That could be as well... Nintendo is unpredictable af :c

 

[Malus]

I sometimes don't understand the negativity on stuff like this. When there's all this anxiety in the air and thirst for any information, people look to analysts (you can use air quotes there if you prefer) to shed some light... any light at all. And if they don't know anything definitively, you get educated speculation. That's all they can do. I'm seeing a sentiment of hostility in here and in the other thread that doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. There's almost a sense of "hey asshole, if you can't tell me a date when this thing is going to be announced then just admit that you know nothing and shut the fuck up!"

It's the same reaction people have to insiders in general. Some people pin their hopes on what these guys/gals are saying, and if they get it wrong or appear to be making guesses, we want to file them into the "Not Reliable Don't Bother With Them" category so as to not be disappointed in the future. Sometimes that gets expressed in a rude way lol.

This recent update comes off as them saying, "it might come soon, but if not, then the time after soon, but if not, then the time after..." which is kinda funny. At least we can say that they're expecting Nintendo to reveal it shortly.

 

[Dark Cloud]

Well I suppose because of the fresh batch of rumors saying that now the reveal could be in early october and all that jazz : / I simply don't know what to believe anymoaar!



That could be as well... Nintendo is unpredictable af :c

Which latest rumors are saying October? Lol

 

[Twenty7KVN]

So people are already talking delay in here if it moves to October?

You do realize there isn't a huge difference between late September and October, right? 5 months is still plenty of time to market.

Not only that,the nx doesn't a official launch date,so the system can't be delayed with no launch date.

 

[udivision]

"Get ready for the 'Year of the NX' guys!"

*several agonizing months later*

"Actually, they could announce it and release it a day later if they wanted to."

 

[maxcriden]

Not only that,the nx doesn't a official launch date,so the system can't be delayed with no launch date.

It has an official launch month of March, though, and Nintendo hasn't set a launch month and then changed it in ~20 years.

 

[Sadist]

3DS Direct was announced only a day and a half in advance, wasn't it?

As someone stated, 48 hours in advance, but I believe predicting a possible reveal through past Direct announcements won't bring us anything. While 3DS revisions and limited edition models were announced via Direct presentations, Nintendo's last truly new hardware reveals were at E3. (E3 2010 and E3 2011 respectively) Sure, Nintendo can be hard to predict at times, but I don't believe it will be just a Direct for the NX reveal. I'm stil expecting an event.

 

[Plinko]

"Get ready for the 'Year of the NX' guys!"

*several agonizing months later*

"Actually, they could announce it and release it a day later if they wanted to."

Literally nobody is saying this.

 

[Discomurf]

Starting to think this will be a special direct video announcement with a hands on at CES in Jan.

 

[Oregano]

Announcing through a direct(quite likely) would probably look terrible. The perception of a Nintendo who appears on stage at Apple's conference to announce a mobile game but announces their supposed flagship product in a pre-recorded video is one who no longer cares about consoles.

I say that as a fan of the Nintendo Direct format.

 

[EVH]

?oe?oe was actually hinting at Chrono Trigger 3 as an NX exclusive.

Who?

Anyway its fake, of course.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

Announcing through a direct(quite likely) would probably look terrible. The perception of a Nintendo who appears on stage at Apple's conference to announce a mobile game but announces their supposed flagship product in a pre-recorded video is one who no longer cares about consoles.

I say that as a fan of the Nintendo Direct format.

They need to explain the system clearly and concisely though.
I think you are over analyzing that perception.
If it's slick and the games look great, it'll all speak for itself.

 

[MuchoMalo]

I don't see the 12th (Monday) being realistic, unless they literally announce it's happening today.

Right now I think post-TGS makes the most sense. A press conference just makes sense for a big new hardware announcement like this, and that requires proper advance warning for the press. It's possible they could just spring an out of nowhere Direct but I really don't see that happening this time.

Maybe we'd get a Direct simultaneously with a Press Conference (which we don't see) but there would still be a Press Conference.

People want it to be Pre-TGS because that allows devs to announce games for it there, but devs can announce games for it whenever they want. Including a Nintendo-specific announcement event where they wheel out each dev on stage to talk about what they're bringing to the system.

Here's the thing though: They're going to have an event in January most likely to reveal the price and launch date anyway, so it might make sense to get the first details and announcements out there in a direct and do the full blow-out in January.

 

[L Thammy]

Who?

Anyway its fake, of course.

If it's fake, then how do you explain this?

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

Here's the thing though: They're going to have an event in January most likely to reveal the price and launch date anyway, so it might make sense to get the first details and announcements out there in a direct and do the full blow-out in January.

Yeah, I think some are forgetting this doesn't have to be one big shabam.
It can be done in parts not too far apart from each other.

 

[Twenty7KVN]

It has an official launch month of March, though, and Nintendo hasn't set a launch month and then changed it in ~20 years.

That's more tentative than official, i won't put any stock in that being the launch month.

 

[Oregano]

They need to explain the system clearly and concisely though.
I think you are over analyzing that perception.
If it's slick and the games look great, it'll all speak for itself.

Considering the amount of articles about Nintendo not attending E3 I can foresee a lot of shitty articles about how it shows a lack of confidence.

 

[maxcriden]

That's more tentative than official, i won't put any stock in that being the launch month.

It comes directly from Nintendo in statements made to their shareholders. How would that be any less official than there also being a day of the month attached?

 

[MuchoMalo]

Considering the amount of articles about Nintendo not attending E3 I can foresee a lot of shitty articles about how it shows a lack of confidence.

Once everyone saw what Nintendo had to show for E3, nobody cared about that anymore. The same would be true of a good direct.

That's more tentative than official, i won't put any stock in that being the launch month.

It has never once been called "tentative." That's just your cynicism talking.

 

[wild wild rice]

I'm going to write a play. It'll be like Beckett's Waiting for Godot, but it will be called Waiting for Nintendot. The setting is a message board where posters mill around having pointless existential discussions while waiting for something ambiguous that never arrives.

 

[Okami Haundo]

Xbox One was revealed on May 21, 2013 and released on November 22, 2013. Six months and one day.

Xbox 360 was revealed on May 12, 2005. It was released on November 22, 2005. Six months and 10 days later.

Nintendo DS was revealed on May 11, 2004. It was released on November 21, 2004. Seven months and 10 days later.

This is hardly unprecedented. Albeit, a little backward in terms of timing. It's usually spring reveal, fall release not fall reveal, spring release.

I think the key difference here (that you already pointed out) is that all of your examples involved systems launching in the fall. As the NX will be missing this holiday season, I don't think Nintendo needs to be very bullish about marketing right now. I have no doubt that we'll at least get a reveal before the end of this year, but I don't think they need the same amount of time as those examples.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

It comes directly from Nintendo in statements made to their shareholders. How would that be any less official than there also being a day of the month attached?

That's official.
When a company repeatedly says a launch month, that's official.
Obviously can be changed but they could have said "early next year or first quarter" but saying March pretty much means that's a well thought out specific date, even if not down to the exact day.

 

[Father_Brain]

I can't and won't completely rule it out, but I have a hard time seeing Nintendo dropping a full-length NX reveal event, even if it's prerecorded, with only a couple days' advance notice.

What I could more easily see them doing with minimal (or no) advance notice is revealing the system name and concept in a press release and accompanying 3-5 minute video, then holding the full reveal a few weeks or so later. Think the Wii U E3 2011 trailer, except less shitty.

 

[TDLink]

Here's the thing though: They're going to have an event in January most likely to reveal the price and launch date anyway, so it might make sense to get the first details and announcements out there in a direct and do the full blow-out in January.

I don't think I agree with that. A January event is not a guarantee at all anyways. Having someone actually pull out the system on stage and play with it, and have the press see that (or even play themselves), and having all the third party publishers come out with their support...is very different from just showing a direct which is tightly edited and in which you can't even see a game really being played on the system.

It sends a different sort of message.

Of course if the system isn't actually ready to play the games it'd make sense to do it that way...

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

I can't and won't completely rule it out, but I have a hard time seeing Nintendo dropping a full-length NX reveal event, even if it's prerecorded, with only a couple days' advance notice.

What I could more easily see them doing with minimal (or no) advance notice is revealing the system name and concept in a press release and accompanying 3-5 minute video, then holding the full reveal a few weeks or so later. Think the Wii U E3 2011 trailer, except less shitty.

That all could very well happen.

 

[Dystify]

I don't think in the end it matters much whether they do a conference or a Nintendo Direct. The news will get out either way.
A conference has the potential to create more hype if it's well done but the risk to disappoint seems higher than with a Direct. A Direct on the other hand is what I'd call "playing it save", because everything will go just as they planned.

How the public reacts to either of these can't be said until it actually happened, but as I said, the announcement of new stuff (name, price, dates, games, features, etc) will dominate the news.

 

[maxcriden]

I'm going to write a play. It'll be like Beckett's Waiting for Godot, but it will be called Waiting for Nintendot. The setting is a message board where posters mill around having pointless existential discussions while waiting for something ambiguous that never arrives.

Dibs on the maxcriden role.

 

[Twenty7KVN]

Once everyone saw what Nintendo had to show for E3, nobody cared about that anymore. The same would be true of a good direct.



It has never once been called "tentative." That's just your cynicism talking.

Yea i am cynical but this industry made me that way. I won't be surprised if this doesn't launch in March, and i'm hoping you guys don't freak out of it doesn't.

 

[spekkeh]

For quite some time I've expected the reveal to happen in October anyway so no surprise there.

Yeah same here. If they wanted to reveal the thing at E3 and release during the holidays, and everything says this was the case, June-November is a five month period.

If they stick to the PR schedule they made, and why wouldn't they, October-March is the same five month period.

October simply always made more sense than September to me.

 

[MuchoMalo]

I don't think I agree with that. Having someone actually pull out the system on stage and play with it, and have the press see that (or even play themselves), and having all the third party publishers come out with their support...is very different from just showing a direct which is tightly edited and in which you can't even see a game really being played on the system.

It sends a different sort of message.

Of course if the system isn't actually ready to play the games it'd make sense to do it that way...

I don't know how you can still feel that way after yesterday. Getting it right should be the most important thing. If they do a conference and it's boring or something goes wrong, it's all over, especially since pricing likely won't be announced until January. The price is the only reason the overall reaction to Sony's conference was positive, and if Nintendo doesn't show pricing, or worse shows a high price, it'll all backfire on them.

Though, I guess this ~confidence~ issue from pessimists is enough reason to take the risk. I used to be the same way though before I realized how silly it is. Also, something happening in January is pretty much a guarantee. Nintendo isn't going to announce launch detail before then.

Yea i am cynical but this industry made me that way. I won't be surprised if this doesn't launch in March, and i'm hoping you guys don't freak out of it does.

You sound like you wouldn't believe any date given until the day of release anyway tbh.

 

[maxcriden]

I don't think I agree with that. A January event is not a guarantee at all anyways. Having someone actually pull out the system on stage and play with it, and have the press see that (or even play themselves), and having all the third party publishers come out with their support...is very different from just showing a direct which is tightly edited and in which you can't even see a game really being played on the system.

It sends a different sort of message.

Of course if the system isn't actually ready to play the games it'd make sense to do it that way...

Isn't Malo's reasoning though that we'll get both? Nintendo will show us what it's like to play on NX, in a video, potentially including some games being shown off at this point. At the same time, the press will be playing it IRL at their hands-on event. We'll get their impressions afterwards. Nintendo has done this sort of thing before I believe. Then, in January they'll have another event revealing price and launch date.

 

[L Thammy]

I think a conference is waaaay more appropriate than a Direct. A Direct is overly tailored to the Nintendo faithful, which Nintendo needs to extend outside of. Beyond that, they can still control a conference to a certain extent, including lots of pre-recorded material. They can still slip in their Nintendo Direct meme generating bits in some form.

 

[21XX]

Literally nobody is saying this.

But what are they figuratively saying?

 

[Clessidor]

I don't think I agree with that. A January event is not a guarantee at all anyways. Having someone actually pull out the system on stage and play with it, and have the press see that (or even play themselves), and having all the third party publishers come out with their support...is very different from just showing a direct which is tightly edited and in which you can't even see a game really being played on the system.

It sends a different sort of message.

Of course if the system isn't actually ready to play the games it'd make sense to do it that way...

I can totally see them doing a Digital Event plus something which goes hands on.
One possibilty would be adding Treehouse live or they could invite the press and allow journalist to film while playing the first games/demos.

In general I feel like that NX is gonna have a very game focused reveal. So people have more than one title to look forward to and for Nintendo to represent themself as very strong from the beginning.

 

[maxcriden]

I think a conference is waaaay more appropriate than a Direct. A Direct is overly tailored to the Nintendo faithful, which Nintendo needs to extend outside of. Beyond that, they can still control a conference to a certain extent, including lots of pre-recorded material. They can still slip in their Nintendo Direct meme generating bits in some form.

I'm not sure I understand how one is any better than the other. You advertise both and livestream both to anyone interested, and outlets will liveblog both, so what advantages does the live conference have?

But what are they figuratively saying?

What we are figuratively saying is difficult to quite make out over all the figurative tears.

I can totally see them doing a Digital Event plus something which goes hands on.
One possibilty would be adding Treehouse live or they could invite the press and allow journalist to film while playing the first games/demos.

In general I feel like that NX is gonna have a very game focused reveal. So people have more than one title to look forward to and for Nintendo to represent themself as very strong from the beginning.

I think you are right on the money with all of this, and I expect a January - February 2013 Direct style blowout. If they'd done the January Direct before the Wii U came out and not after it could have helped drive interest at least a bit more.

 

[Azoo]

I'm not putting any bets on it, but if we're to expect a conference on either the 12th or 13th, a Friday or Monday announcement at least seems appropriate.

Certainly am hoping something happens next week. This wait is eating us all up something fierce.

 

[TDLink]

I don't know how you can still feel that way after yesterday. Getting it right should be the most important thing. If they do a conference and it's boring or something goes wrong, it's all over, especially since pricing likely won't be announced until January. The price is the only reason the overall reaction to Sony's conference was positive, and if Nintendo doesn't show pricing, or worse shows a high price, it'll all backfire on them.

Though, I guess this ~confidence~ issue from pessimists is enough reason to take the risk. I used to be the same way though before I realized how silly it is. Also, something happening in January is pretty much a guarantee. Nintendo isn't going to announce launch detail before then.

The Sony conference was boring because it is just an update to an existing console and was entirely focused on that 4k/HDR upgrade, which most people can't take advantage of yet, with no new software being shown.

The NX is a brand new console with a new concept and will be accompanied by new software announcements. It's impossible for it to be that boring.

Isn't Malo's reasoning though that we'll get both? Nintendo will show us what it's like to play on NX, in a video, potentially including some games being shown off at this point. At the same time, the press will be playing it IRL at their hands-on event. We'll get their impressions afterwards. Nintendo has done this sort of thing before I believe. Then, in January they'll have another event revealing price and launch date.

Both could happen, but I don't think you need a big event solely to reveal the price and launch date. There's no reason those things can't happen at -this- event either.

Nintendo has done what you're proposing before, yes, but not with a brand new system announcement.

I can totally see them doing a Digital Event plus something which goes hands on.
One possibilty would be adding Treehouse live or they could invite the press and allow journalist to film while playing the first games/demos.

In general I feel like that NX is gonna have a very game focused reveal. So people have more than one title to look forward to and for Nintendo to represent themself as very strong from the beginning.

I could see that happening, but that is what I meant by there being a Press Event simultaneously with a Direct (and we only see the Direct). That's fine, but there would still be an event for the press.

I don't think they're just going to throw up a Direct/"Digital Event" 2 days after announcing one and then do interviews/impressions with Press on another day.

I agree the reveal will be very software focused, but they have to show the system and explain the concept at least as well...even if they don't give hardware specs.

 

[Twenty7KVN]

I You sound like you wouldn't believe any date given until the day of release anyway tbh.

I'm not that bad, i just don't put that much stock in anything that hasn't been fully revealed yet, that includes dates. Stuff changes all the time and god knows why Nintendo didn't reveal the system yet, so i just take a wait and see approach to anything gaming now a days.

 

[what-ok]

Can it be called a delay when there never was a date set? This is sort of hilarious.

 

[jmizzal]

I can't and won't completely rule it out, but I have a hard time seeing Nintendo dropping a full-length NX reveal event, even if it's prerecorded, with only a couple days' advance notice.

What I could more easily see them doing with minimal (or no) advance notice is revealing the system name and concept in a press release and accompanying 3-5 minute video, then holding the full reveal a few weeks or so later. Think the Wii U E3 2011 trailer, except less shitty.

This is what i'm leaning towards, but full reveal will prob come in Dec, but we will get the concept and a few games in a Direct this month

 

[OrbitalBeard]

Can it be called a delay when there never was a date set? This is sort of hilarious.

If NX releases after March, then yes, that can be called a delay.

 

[NateDrake]

Stop expecting an announcement to come. If you focus on an announcement coming each day the wait will just feel longer. It'll come when it comes.

 

[what-ok]

If NX releases after March, then yes, that can be called a delay.

True that.

 

[blu]

Stop expecting an announcement to come. If you focus on an announcement coming on each day the wait will just feel longer. It'll come when it comes.

I was just about to start expecting twice a day - once in the morning and once in early afternoon.

 

[Malus]

I was just about to start expecting twice a day - once in the morning and once in early afternoon.

That's some next level expecting right there. I admire that. We should all strive to achieve maximum expectations

 

[Father_Brain]

This is what i'm leaning towards, but full reveal will prob come in Dec, but we will get the concept and a few games in a Direct this month

Nah, that sounds much too late to me. I still think the system will be fully revealed, minus price and launch details, by the middle of next month.

 

[Ogodei]

Nah, that sounds much too late to me. I still think the system will be fully revealed, minus price and launch details, by the middle of next month.

Nah, they have to come out swinging with the price. Launch details is another matter, though i think they'll definitely reaffirm March 2017.

 

[21XX]

What we are figuratively saying is difficult to quite make out over all the figurative tears.

Ha, this is also sad because it reminded me that no Kirby game has taken the combo powers of Kirby 64 and used them again. Which seems very silly to me as it was awesome.

 

[Pinky]

I just want a reveal date.