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Report: NX Handheld Dimensions, Layout Info, Lack of Region Lock
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How does that amazon forum work? Can users create those "topics" or are they only amazon made?
GustyGardens
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OK, yeah. I'm into it. Where do I send my money?
peanutbutterlatte
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Because otherwise you'll be playing an inferior version of Zelda and very little else for a very long time.
boclfon479
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Have any of the leaks/rumors detailed what type of sticks the dev kits have? Are they circle pads, or legit clicky sticks?
th3sicknness
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The biggest issue I see is how they market it and is it doing too much? How do they send a message that you get 1 device to do everything without confusing people?
Remember these will sit on shelves at a Best Buy or a target and someone will have to explain to consumers what it does.
It would have to be a pretty strong message something like "At home and on the go in 1 device"
Why would Amazon show something like this on their website?
EDIT: It's a forum post, nevermind, nothing to see here.
Per Fourth:
Per me:
It's a thread title created by a forum user, seemingly as a joke. It appears this is a recurring thread where people share their lunch plans.
I agree with you that it would need such a message. The EG leak specifically says the marketing for the system will be about its hybrid nature, i.e. "your games, on the go."
FWIW all the aspects of the system being discussed are no more or fewer than the features any system touts. So, just as you'd learn more about the 3DS and find out it has AR functionality, you'd learn more about NX and find out it has detachable controllers. Just as an example.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Sounds odd, although they release all their games on Friday.
As for circle pads, that's not a surprise at all. Keeps it thin. Wii U Pro Controller is probably compatible.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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What kind of star trek space ship
Serenitynow
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Portability, I'd assume
Yeah, it's just a random Amazon forum user who posted it. Anybody can post anything there. There's even a topic saying Metroid Prime 4 is a launch title for NX.
6.2" screen should have a 77mm height which would give you 7.5mm or ~1/4" on each side. That seems very reasonable.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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You must be joking.. its not that much stronger than Wii U apparently. Especially if I just play handhelds at home.. this thing confusing
GustyGardens
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That's what I thought, but the way she structured her sentence in her original post made it seem like she was talking about the NX folding and not the 3DS. Oh, well.
boclfon479
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You show one boy playing Zelda on the go, bringing the console to his girlfriend's home where they play NX Sports together, then going back home to play Zelda again on his big TV plugging the console into the dock.
With an elegant design it will work.
No they cannot. Imo, this will be sold to people who want to play Nintendo games and/or non-f2p handheld games + parents who want an e-babysitter.
VendettaRed07
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This is honestly, completely unacceptable.
I'm hoping the detachable buttons means we can replace them. Circlepads would make certain kinds of games completely unplayable.
There is too much of a dead zone.
Dr. Buni
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The Vita stick feels/look pretty portable/compact to me, though. And it is far more comfortable/less slippery than a circle pad. Hm...
Why does a DS owner need a 3DS? Why does a PS2 owner need a PS3? Because it's the company's next gen console.
"Essentially the same" is a strange assertion when what we know so far makes it out to be wildly different from the Wii U and a major departure from the usual old gen/new gen console refreshes.
It seems we will have attachable controllers rather than buttons, but you'll probably get your wish that way. Plus, potentially the controller you use at home by default may have analog sticks.
th3sicknness
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I dont see how they do anything motion control related to be honest.. they have to distance themselves from anything Wii related entirely. Anything Wii related cannot be anywhere near the NX in any way.
3ds owners will think this is the next upgrade and will see a huge value proposition. Wii U owners may not see it that way. The install base is so slow for Nintendo consoles that this will only succeed if they can convince ps4 and xone owners to be interested.
Ok.
Honestly, i wouldn't mind a folding design, with the tablet as the lid, and the controller as the "dumb" base... That way it could be less wide, and you could even put a secondary smaller screen or touchpad in the middle of the controller (think a tablet face down on the gamepad). But it looks like it's highly unlikely.
wild wild rice
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The U Pro controller could be useless if they add analog triggers. I wonder if they would even bother.
My problem with the 3DS circle pads are:
They'd have to improve on them quite a bit to make me like them.
1. It somehow hurts my thumb to hold it forward for long enough, which is a pretty common activity in a lot of 3D games
2. The pad itself can fall off during a game of Street Fighter
2. The pad itself can fall off during a game of Street Fighter
They'd have to improve on them quite a bit to make me like them.
peanutbutterlatte
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... are you expecting the Wii U to get simultaneous releases with the NX or something?
If Nintendo screws up that aspect of the controller, I expect to at least see third parties like Hori stepping up with superior controller attachments. But it's still possible they won't be circle pads. There are portable implementations of actual joysticks that work just fine:
VendettaRed07
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There was a thread on it but I remember there being a rumor of in addition to being able to take detach the controls, you could slide out the dPad and buttons and replace them.
It would make perfect sense for this to be something it could do, because as is, due to the sticks the WiiU gamepad isn't really portable. The circle pads help make the thing more portable.
I still hope there is more truth to it, because it seems like a pretty good solution to allow people to modify the state of the buttons/sticks to allow for portability over control. Or control over portability if you are playing at home.
The NX isn't wildly different than the Wii U. IT's the exact Wii U GAmepad. lol.
I think the fact the 3ds was alot like the DS didn't help Nintendo either btw. But it did add the stick and 3d. And quite a bit more power. The PS3 had substantially more power than the PS2.
This is not going to be the case with the NX vs Wii U. The NX isn't going to be dramatically more powerful than the Wii U.
Detachable controllers isn't a selling pt to lots of Wii U owners because we already have wiimotes.
And as a Wii U owner I never cared much about playing games on the 6.2" screen. I only did it when I had to because playing on the big screen is just more relaxing and enjoyable.
That's why it feel strange to pay $300. The NX is essentially the same hardware capability we have now.
Luckily there aren't many Wii U owners out there and even fewer when you consider some Wii U owners will greatly desire the portability aspect of the NX.
peanutbutterlatte
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If Nintendo screws up that aspect of the controller, I expect to at least see third parties like Hori stepping up with superior controller attachments. But it's still possible they won't be circle pads. There are portable implementations of actual joysticks that work just fine:
I mean, a weird example to pick, since elephant in the room...
No problems with these. Not amazing for shooters, but neither are the circle pads.
Fourth Storm
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If Wii Remotes are compatible for certain games, I don't know why Wii U pro wouldn't be. I have absolutely no anxiety about control options on NX. Last 2 generations have been full of them. They even started producing Gamecube controllers again. People need to think about that and let it settle in.
Made me think of a name though. Nintendo Wei. Play it your wei.
Awful I know, but so was Wii. Nonsense is hip.
Dr. Buni
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Playing on a handheld > Playing on console, so that alone makes Zelda NX more appealing than Zelda U
Yep, the Vita sticks are really good. Not perfect, but neither are the pads.
Nintendo needs to go back to celebrity endorsements like they did with DS and Wii
Beyonce plays Animal Crossing on the tablet with only touchscreen controls
Hugh Jackman plays Zelda on the plane on the tabket with controls attached. And when he goes to his hotel he docks the system and continues to play Zelda on the TV.
Kevin Hart plays Metroid Prime with the NX Docked on the TV with split controllers with motion controls
Ben Affleck plays Mario Maker in the home office where the controls are detached and the Tablet is on a stand using it as a TV. His child comes in and joins for 2 player local multiplayer using the other half of the split controller.
There you have it lol
peanutbutterlatte
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Also the Wii U gamepad is so aesthetically unpleasing. Probably the ugliest controller Nintendo has ever graced us with. I'd buy an NX just for that.
It's going to be 2 (worst case maxwell) to 5 times (pie in the sky best case Pascal) the Wii U in pure flops in a mobile form factor assuming it's really Nvidia for production. If they're able to use FP16 at all, the actual performance difference will be even greater.
VendettaRed07
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If Nintendo screws up that aspect of the controller, I expect to at least see third parties like Hori stepping up with superior controller attachments. But it's still possible they won't be circle pads. There are portable implementations of actual joysticks that work just fine:
That's true as well. I think the best solution would be for Nintendo to offer an option of a better, more solid control form factor that is better for a home gaming situation, but being able to just take the things off, third parties might even be able to due something pretty quickly if Nintendo doesn't do it themselves.
I have to think Nintendo is at least aware of this issue, because the WiiU itself when first announced had circle pads, but they replaced them after fan feed back. Can't imagine they aren't aware of the issues they present in terms of console gaming control
The biggest problem with a hybrid is that it's actually just a handheld.
The screen is the same size so...
Nintendo loves using motion controls for some of their games now. I don't think they would remove the option entirely. We have a recent rumor from this same source: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1269825&highlight=nx+wii saying motion controls are in.
As to the second bit, luckily the 3DS user base is far higher than that for Wii U so if Nintendo has to lose interest from current Wii U owners that's better than the other way around. As to the install base being slow, it really depends on the system, hopefully they can have a better go of it with NX. I agree that garnering PS/X interest would be helpful but I think casual fans and lapsed gamers might be easier to target. Unless they have more BOTW-style games that might catch the eye of a PS/X owner.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that was a thread about a patent rather than a rumor. If you find a link or have a link otherwise I'd be glad to be corrected. But, even if there isn't any such rumor as of yet, I'm sure as others have said there will be a way to have more traditional analog stick play whether by attachable such controllers on the handheld or by use of an at-home controller with analog sticks (possibly even one provided by Nintendo for at-home use, in the box).
"Wei" is too distinctly Asian or specifically Chinese to sound mass-market enough, but otherwise I think you may well be on to something. OTOH, perhaps they will avoid "nonsense naming" a la Wii and Mii this time around, to eschew expectations and presumptions and to avoid it being thematically tied to Wii.
Nintendo Stay'r'Go is still the winner for me (not really - terrible name and there is no standalone similar 'r' in Japanese).
Fun fact: there is no "Wii" sound in the Japanese alphabet. Only "wa." There's also "wo" but it's pronounced "o."
Fourth Storm
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Haha, just prepare yourselves for something stupid. You know it's happening.
Or they could follow Samsung (like they are doing w/ the Galaxy 3DS) and do something spacey like...Nintendo Sol.
boclfon479
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LordOfChaos
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I thought about that, but a 7" tablet hanging off your face would be pretty front-heavy (especially for kids, which they aren't forgetting for this), plus the 750P 4.7 inch 6S I have is already terrible for VR because the resolution is halved, 720p on a 6.2 inch halved for VR and seen through lenses would be grid central. The 6S in Cardboard already looks like sitting in front of a 90s CRT TV.
th3sicknness
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They need to nix motion controls like they are going to nix native backwards compatibility. Sometimes you have to let go of a few things to move forward. At this point in time Nintendo can't afford to be associated with anything Wii related in fear that users will be confused. People were so easily confused by the Wii U that even now if you ask someone who doesnt own one they have no clue what it is lol.
I was sure it was going to be pretty portable--and though this does seem to be the dev unit from what we're seeing ITT it appears the screen won't allow it to be too much smaller, so... it appears it's going to be less portable than we're accustomed to with Nintendo HHs.
VendettaRed07
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Actually now that I think of it, your right, it probably was a patent thread.
I really can't keep up with all of this, we are at rumor/patent thread #2,948 lol.
I completely agree that the Wii U was terribly marketed and its concept as a product made it exceptionally difficult to market. The name didn't help either. Nintendo absolutely needs a clean break. Rumors are saying no BC but that doesn't mean a break from the past. At the least this means no Wii U BC, but we will have VC presumably for just about every other Nintendo system. Plus, motion controls aren't necessarily associated with only Wii anymore, nor are they necessary to leave behind when they improve some games (or, if you don't agree they do, you at least have to say they expand the control options for developers and players) and are cheap to implement, so, there's really no harm in leaving them in as a component of the system rather than a selling point.
NP! and as we know patent and rumor threads are both only possibilities until Nintendo confirms anything. One could be just as possible as the other, though the thought of children trying to eat detachable buttons tells me Nintendo might shy away from those. (And yeah, it's ridiculously hard to keep up with all these rumors!)
(except, replace those with NX rumors!)
OrbitalBeard
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No. No, they do not.
They don't need to. But.... they should.
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