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Report: NX Handheld Dimensions, Layout Info, Lack of Region Lock
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New comment from Emily.
But, how would the 2-player thing work then? This way the right controller wouldn't have shoulder button on the top left corner if it's held so that the stick is to the left. Or is that 2P-feature not even valid anymore?
A center spike? TV out and and "oops yeah, it has a TV out and it can dock!"
Sounds like bullshit. So much continuous conflicting info. Probably why not all these sites implicitly "confirming" Eurogamer's report ever explicitly confirmed any of the details. Never heard of this site, not sure why people believe this when it only is riding off previous rumors
Sounds like bullshit. So much continuous conflicting info. Probably why not all these sites implicitly "confirming" Eurogamer's report ever explicitly confirmed any of the details. Never heard of this site, not sure why people believe this when it only is riding off previous rumors
I've been saying it since the beginning of the rumors - playing on your tv is nothing but a compromise for the nintendo fan who wants to play nintendo games on the tv. It's not the main purpose of the system. The main purpose is to be nintendo's next (handheld) system with a more streamlined library. Playing on tv is a bonus for the fan who wants that feature but not the main drive.
I assume you'd use the shouler/trigger button as often as you'd use them on a wii-remote when playing sideways. They'll be there for simple 2 players games and for motion games like wii sports.
Speaking of which, if we get a new wii sports game for this and the wii branding is dead, what do they call it? NX (aka actual revealed console name) sports? Spawn it off as a new title? Retain the wii name for just the one game?
Davey Cakes
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And it was so much better for it. If it weren't for that, I would've never been able to enjoy Last Window, the sequel to Hotel Dusk which was one of my favorite games.
I know money may be the issue, but being free would be awesome for NX; just another aspect that increases its accessibility.
Graphics Horse
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The spike thing may turn out to be untrue, and honestly a button on the controller that causes it to pop off sounds like a recipe for disaster.
RandomHopeInc
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I just drew up this thing.
Just mashing together all the rumours:
detachable controllers, kickstand, 720p 6-inch screen, split d-pads etc.
I think that clam shell designs are pretty economical for space reasons, and in this case, you can fold the bottom of the device under itself to for the kickstand when the controllers have been removed.
This seems very plausible
efyu_lemonardo
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New comment from Emily.
It likely means the two controllers are identical parts. So some adjustments to that mockup are required.
I wouldn't mind this, but I got used to having both sticks at the top.New comment from Emily.
Graphics Horse
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At least for the main functions.
Her account is protected. It's already been posted here as a screenshot above here in the thread though.
New comment from Emily.
This makes sense, that way if you hold the controller with the trigger upwards, both controllers will have the d-pad/buttons to the left, and the stick to the right. If the sticks were symmetrical, the stick/d-pad placement would be switched if you want to keep the trigger on top.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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#synchronizedsticksmasterrace
New comment from Emily.
Good news all round.
Dark Cloud
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Yes this is what I wanted. They did it right with the GameCube controller. I don't know why they wen call away from itNew comment from Emily.
Pancake Mix
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32 GB of internal storage would be fine as an HDD on the go is pretty heavy, prone to shock, and requires a slightly greater thickness. The SD (I suspect micro-SD) card slot will allow the crazies who don't love physical games to insert an expensive 256 GB SDXC card and have lots of storage for Nintendo's games, which are often rather compact, and will be limited by the max game card space anyways (which may be 16 or more likely 32 GB due to cost.)
efyu_lemonardo
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I mean they are identical to save on manufacturing costs.
What exactly is the difference between a handheld with a dock and a hybrid?
If the detachable pads are Wiimote-like as rumored, then they are definitely meant to be used in combination with a TV. Meaning that one its major features would indeed have been designed with a TV in mind. You will also almost certainly be able to buy and connect additional controllers, which is also very much a console-like thing. Not to mention that Nintendo - as always - will put great emphasize on local, shared screen multiplayer. Again something you otherwise see mostly/only on consoles.
If your definition of hybrid is just related to a power increase when used in "TV mode", you are looking at all of this in the most un-Nintendo way possible.
I just drew up this thing.
Just mashing together all the rumours:
detachable controllers, kickstand, 720p 6-inch screen, split d-pads etc.
I think that clam shell designs are pretty economical for space reasons, and in this case, you can fold the bottom of the device under itself to for the kickstand when the controllers have been removed.
Pretty cool, BUT how can the shoulder wheels be used if the controllers are attached?
ShadowFox08
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Not quite. If it has built in handheld games in mind that doesn't really give that console experience, then I would agree. But it sounds more like a reverse Wii u at this point. The NX will have games, or at least should have games that cater to the handheld experience, as well as the TV home console.
Not to mention that if this game is truly a hybrid, it will have separate controllers without a screen for sale--maybe even backwards compatible with the Wii u and Wii. It will likely attach to the dock. Here's hoping the NX controller has good buttons though.
To be honest, I'm still ready to trust a website that is made by good people (ex Destructoid-UK staff), that had reliable leaks in the past (i.e. they have a track record), with NX leaks that have been corroborated by different outlets / people with different leaks and that, after all, are humble enough to recognise when they are actually wrong and quite concise to explain the context behind it.
Hopefully, it doesn't happen again too soon / frequently
Asymmetrical sticks suck if they're oriented perpendicularly. Thumbs do not work that way. There needs to be some tilt to them.
It's to let you play console-esque games on the go. Its primary target audience will certainly be the 3DS/Vita crowd + nintendo fan crowd. They're certainly not targetting the home console crowd with this thing.
It's to let you play console-esque games on the go. Its primary target audience will certainly be the 3DS/Vita crowd + nintendo fan crowd. They're certainly not targetting the home console crowd with this thing.
Plinko
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I'm fairly certain if the sticks are aligned like that, they'll be the same controller on either side. It wouldn't make sense to restrict that, and it would allow for the system to be technically packed with two controllers for multi-player.
It is the same thing.
I don't need to detach the controllers. I have wiimotes. Wiimotes can even be used to play on the Gamepad itself. I used that capability once in 4 years.
The only selling pt I don't have now with the Wii U is portability which I don't care about.
This is an upgrade for 3ds owners or Wii U owners who want their Wii U to be portable.
It's a lot less attractive for Wii U owners that only cared about playing games on their tv.
But again luckily there aren't many Wii U owners to begin with.
Dark Cloud
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To be honest, I'm still ready to trust a website that is made by good people (ex Destructoid-UK staff), that had reliable leaks in the past (i.e. they have a track record), with NX leaks that have been corroborated by different outlets / people with different leaks and that, after all, are humble enough to recognise when they are actually wrong and quite concise to explain the context behind it.
Hopefully, it doesn't happen again too soon / frequently
I asked earlier who they were because I never heard of them and nobody answered. Lol good to learn who they are now.
Fourth Storm
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Some kind of touch surface on the inside where the controllers connect maybe? Then it becomes the top surface for 2 player horizontal mode.
Graphics Horse
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So far there's no reports of them being totally identical with the system buttons on opposing corners, extra trigger buttons may have to be added for that to be the case, but we've not heard much of triggers either yet.
I just drew up this thing.
Just mashing together all the rumours:
detachable controllers, kickstand, 720p 6-inch screen, split d-pads etc.
I think that clam shell designs are pretty economical for space reasons, and in this case, you can fold the bottom of the device under itself to for the kickstand when the controllers have been removed.
Ok, this thing is freaking dope. I don't think that's what it looks like, but I'd be on board with this in a heartbeat.
DrROBschiz
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I like assymetrical sticks but... this looks weird to hold in the concept
Im fine with the WiiU and Pro Controller setup honestly
As for the Drawing above
Dpad should have teardrop shaped buttons to bridge the gap between being a Dpad and Button
Pancake Mix
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Well, if even most of this is true, it's all Nintendo's fault for delaying revealing this thing, assuming it's really coming out in March.
efyu_lemonardo
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True but it goes along with the analog nubs and split dpad as well as making a lot of sense financially.
Fourth Storm
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Maybe the controllers are more Y shaped when vertical so there is room for the circle pads to be a bit further out and not directly over the dpad.
Damage control. Gaming sites are just as desperate for NX news (and clicks) that they will run with any poorly sourced info of people claiming to be an insider.
90% of NX rumors have been a shitshow from day one. I'll be relieved when Nintendo finally tells us and we can move on since this is stupid.
The 3d printed controller was the pinnacle of embarrassment but everyone suddenly has a source now I would love to see most of these rumors blow up in their faces just so we can top that hoax.
efyu_lemonardo
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I made a mockup like this once, let me find it.
I just drew up this thing.
Just mashing together all the rumours:
detachable controllers, kickstand, 720p 6-inch screen, split d-pads etc.
I think that clam shell designs are pretty economical for space reasons, and in this case, you can fold the bottom of the device under itself to for the kickstand when the controllers have been removed.
Hahahahaaha
I like it!
In this scenario, maybe there is no "dock" either. Another poster made a clamshell mock up a few days ago, which i kind of liked.
You can both be three, if you really want to. As long as you agree who the best character is:
Or meibe we are the sole two rational people here. Plot twist, huh?
Quelle twist!
I think the TV out here might simply be (a) to attach to the dock or (b) as others have said, a facet of it being a devkit and not the final system. The only reason for the TV out per se being in there properly with no dock (which definitely isn't an appealing marketing image) would be to allow you to play the HH as a controller for the TV (which with a long cord also isn't an ideal marketing image). Plus, as we know from EG, if we are to believe their rumor, the hybrid nature of the system is the marketing hook, and they can't sell it as cleanly that way if it's only an optional add-on--well, I guess if the cord would make it a hybrid in your scenario they still could market it thusly, but, not as cleanly or impressively at least I think if long cords or NXs placed haphazardly on a TV stand are involved. This is just kind of stream of consciousness, so I hope that makes some sense.
What we unfortunately don't have is any rumor indicating SCDs are in play at all. It's possible the dock now or in the future will utilize them but as of yet beyond patents I don't believe there's any indication they're used in this product (but please do correct me if I'm forgetting something or missed something).
Excellent point. Thank you.
Dr. Buni
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I am here wondering the same. With asymmetrical button placement, each controller with have a shoulder button on the opposite side. That seems a bit messy.
DiabloTheGrey
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I do wonder how comfortable holding a handheld with off set sticks will be. Your left hand will be carrying the brunt of the weight of the device while your right hand will be in an awkward position using the thumb stick.
It's cool and all but i'm still not convinced that the two controller halves can be used indipendently, 2d games apart all the games require 2 analogs, how can you play those games with just an half? Will games be required to playable with a single half or they will be forced to have crappy multiplayer minigames just to use those halves?I just drew up this thing.
Just mashing together all the rumours:
detachable controllers, kickstand, 720p 6-inch screen, split d-pads etc.
I think that clam shell designs are pretty economical for space reasons, and in this case, you can fold the bottom of the device under itself to for the kickstand when the controllers have been removed.
Yeah, and I have no idea where you could put them to solve this.
Pancake Mix
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If we're going back to GameCube-style asymmetrical sticks I'll be very, very happy, never liked symmetrical ones.
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