Dr. Buni
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I don't even know who you are, but you seem to know me. Guess I am not as invisible on GAF as I thought I was.
I am a she, but yeah, I was only saying I prefer playing on a handheld, therefore Zelda NX appeals to me. Oh well.
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Report: NX Handheld Dimensions, Layout Info, Lack of Region Lock
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The diagram has them on opposite sides, which I find to be quite conflicting as a dock would surely have ports for both.
I'm with you.
I'm frightened that Nintendo thinks that being able to detach into 2 separate controllers for local multiplayer on a 6 inch screen will be be a huge selling point..
Then again... With the architecture of the NX, I guess Nintendo could roll out gimmick after gimmick without having to necessarily launch new systems.
They did say multiple form factors so I wouldnt be surprised if a more standard PSP-like handheld is also going to be available at launch
Mihael Mello Keehl
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I just read the post as is, theres clearly a divide in here over handheld inconviences in "console mode"
Skittzo0413
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Yeah what's wrong with holding them like dual Wii remotes? That's probably the most comfortable controller setup there is, and it gives you tons of input options.
Considering the first game confirmed to be on the NX, Zelda: BotW, uses every face, shoulder and trigger button for input I would be incredibly surprised if the NX doesn't have all of the same buttons.
Also I guess I'm late to the party for #TeamLovedSkywardSword
Dude. You forgot it can be connected to a TV. Nobody is going to play local multiplayer on the tablet.
Still I don't think the concept sounds that great. I have a feeling we are missing a vital part of the puzzle.
Pancake Mix
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You stick out quite a lot here as you seem to prefer the 3DS screen to a beautiful HDTV.
th3sicknness
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I doubt the detachable controllers for local multiplayer will make it to the final concept ... I think that was a concept of what is possible like the Wii U being able to use 2 game pads at the same time.
I think it will just be the screen plus controllers (they dont act separately when detached). I think the detachable part is for replacement purposes as well as customization.
TVs aren't available anywhere you go. What's the point of these detachable controllers if not ad-hoc multiplayer on the go?
FlaygletheBagel
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Most of this is appealing (screen resolution, docking to HDTV) but I can't fathom how the detachable controllers idea can be implemented well without completely sacrificing ergonomic design. None of the mock-ups I've seen look like something I'd want to hold in my hand and play for an extended period of time.
I only disagree with your interpretation of what these things mean. Not that they don't exist.
The VR experience is not going to be a multi-hour experience anytime soon. It would be mini-games. And it would only be a side gimmick of the NX at that. Thus, even if it is a little awkward in terms of weight, it won't matter.
Similarly the resolution (screen door and all) is good enough for Nintendo to do some cool arcadey mini-games in VR aka "Virtual Boy on Steroids" stuff.
Dr. Buni
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It is all about the comfort, which handhelds tend to offer more than home consoles to me. Of course I don't think a 3DS screen looks better than a HDTV.
Keep my name out of your mouth.
It's just a wiimote turned sideways deal. It's about fun party-type local multiplayer gaming. Not 6 hrs straight of Zelda.
It's superior for certain games. Makes the experience more personal.
Oops. Sorry!
Father_Brain
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What continuous conflicting info? Even with today's report turning out to be less credible than initially reported, nearly all the reports over the past month fit extremely well together.
Man, I'm really, really looking forward to the post-reveal schadenfreude from those who've convinced themselves that WSJ, Eurogamer, MCV, et al. are all lying purveyors of clickbait. Almost as much as I am to the reveal itself.
th3sicknness
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People need to think simple .. they keep adding on functionality lol..
Nintendo is going for simple and easy to understand.. The opposite of what they did with the Wii U which was confirmed by both CEOs of NA / Japan.
Nintendo is going for simple and easy to understand.. The opposite of what they did with the Wii U which was confirmed by both CEOs of NA / Japan.
Im with ya man. My life has been so unstable the past few years that handhelds are all I mess with.
The thought that I'll possibly be able to play the new Zelda, and possibly even the newer AAA JRPGs coming out like DQXI, FFXV, and KHIII, on a console that fits my lifestyle... Oooo doggy.
The also said NX wouldn't be a Wii or Wii U... and this is shaping up to be a reverse Wii U with Wii Remotes duct taped to each side.
Plinko
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Seriously? They look like a better version of the Wiimote except with 4 face buttons instead of 2. The Wiimote was fantastic on its own.
There really isn't anything complicated about this. Powerful handheld, play anywhere, get home, connect it to dock, grab the controller, play on the TV.
th3sicknness
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When did they say it would be a Wii or Wii U?
Everything I have read says it will be distinctly different and wont be the same thing.
family_guy
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I imagine there will be multiple forms of the controllers sold separately. That's why it's detachable. They made it modular.
Skittzo0413
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What's wrong with detachable controllers acting independently? Remember Wii Sports? All you needed was a single Wiimote. This can effectively allow 2 players to play Wii sports right out of the box. Or alternatively, for single player games, you can hold two of these controllers in a Wiimote-nunchuk configuration but with both controllers having a full suite of buttons and motion control. Seems like one of the best control schemes possible.
This I agree with. The rumors make this sound very overcomplicated, and if the final product is anything remotely close to this complex, then Nintendo is gonna need to do a hell of a job marketing this to communicate the concepts clearly. Otherwise I don't see it being very successful.
Unfortunately, comparisons to the Wii U may cause some confusion. Especially if the advertising isn't on point.
They shouldn't show anyone using the NX as a handheld at home, even though you can. As soon as they show a house setting, that thing needs to be docked.
FlaygletheBagel
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I see what you're saying about the individual break-off controllers, but I guess the part I'm not getting is how two non-ergonimic mini controllers are going to click to a screen and somehow feel ergonomic. To me I can't figure out how the whole is going to feel greater than the sum of its parts, so to speak. It seems like the whole is going to have to be made more cumbersome and less comfortable just to facilitate the two controllers breaking off.
I'm no hardware engineer though, so what do I know? Hopefully Nintendo proves me wrong. I just think that, out of what we think the NX is so far, I'm most skeptical of how well the break-off controllers are implemented.
Graphics Horse
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I actually think it's pretty easy to get the message across with simple ads. Show someone playing on the TV, picking up the NX, take it on the go and play it on the bus or whatever. Or the reverse. No one knows what the Wii U is anyway
It is totally going to be for local multiplayer too. IT's 100% Nintendo (replaces what wiimotes are used for) and aims for the casual audience that these streaming boxes are aiming for. STreaming boxes like the Apple TV which has a small remote that also is a very simple game controller.
But u do make a good point that the detachable controller opens up a ton of possibilities for customized controllers that could be swapped in and out. That's actually pretty interesting.
Also fits Nintendo's MO of bundling unique hardware with their games.
They could bundle a detachable trackball controller in with a game designed for it.
They could offer detachable controlllers with the sticks in different positions if there was a demand for it.
Also really great point that it makes a ton of sense from a replacement purposes aspect as well.
New comment from Emily.
please be true
a pro controller that basically has the 360 layout for analog sticks would be GOD TIER
Mihael Mello Keehl
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I agree, thats my only reasoning for not believing the rumors.. I dont care if its a wii u, I dont care if its a handheld.. the design just dont sound serious.
Will be funny if the foxconn dude was right and this is a new PSP and revealed on the 7th next week at sonys conference
UnemployedVillain
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FFS, can people here stop jumping to conclusions? We haven't even had an official announcement. Hell, we haven't even moved beyond the codename for the system and already people are making judgements based on what they THINK is the case
I'm not sure I follow, can you clarify this?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think any recent leak or rumor has said there will be multiple form factors. If you're referring to the prior comment from Nintendo from a couple years back, I agree we will get more form factors eventually but I don't think they will be at launch since that will obfuscate marketing and the marketing we know of from EG focuses on the hybrid.
The male end of anything is more prone to bending or breaking. Better that something on the attachment breaks and gets replaced than on the system itself. It's that way with pretty much every console with controller, signal, power, memory card and accessory ports. I think it's weird anytime a piece of electronics itself has the pins or connectors. If they bend or something, you're fucked.
Skittzo0413
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But it's been restated over and over again that this is a devkit prototype, not the final design.
If you heard rumors about the Wii U prototype that was two Wiimotes attached to a screen, you'd think that was nuts, right? But the final product was the Wii U gamepad which, while not really successful, was still a serious design.
Once we see the final product I think we can safely judge whether or not it's a good design, but doing so based on devkit prototype rumors isn't really useful.
PadWarrior
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The devkits contain a Tegra X1 over clocked with fans to compensate for the smaller more efficient chip in the final design. Of course it's larger.
Silent_Ocarina
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To be fair, that was an internal prototype that used the two Wii remotes. The actual Wii U devkit had a GamePad that, while less attractive, was still very similar to the final product. I think the current NX devkits are more or less reflective of the final design.
Yeah it could end controlling better than a 3ds but worse than a Wii U gamePad.
But I would guess that a pro controller will be an option.
Not to mention, apart from the screen size from a separate rumor iirc, LVPG has recanted the dimensions in the rumor in the OP due to unreliability of the source. They were able to corroborate the other info, thoigh.
Orniletter
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Oh, it still plays games and is portable, so it's a GameBoy+ something else.
What did you honestly expect NX to be that is in no way comparable to the hardware nintendo made in the past ? You're being beyond reductionist.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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The Wii U rumor was always a controller with a screen that can stream the video from the tv to the screen. Never this wonky, Knex lego transformers thing.
Absolutely funny 80% of this board believes Nintendo screwed around with Wii U marketing yet this device will be fine to market. None of it add up imo
JayWood2010
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I have the Nvidia Shield K1 (there is no X1 model) and its worth noting that the K1 model that is being sold has nothing with it. no chords, 4G, etc The original Nvidia Shield was $300 and the K1 is a stripped down version of it.
I would imagine this will be $250. If i remember correctly 3DS launched at $250 as well? or am i way off. Regardless i will buy it either way. As a Nvidia Shield owner, the K1 is perfect for gaming, so i am excited for X1. Plus nintendo has the perfect games for portable. Not huge on their home consoles, but thier portables i always love. Mainly because Pokemon, but there games just fit portables overall.
AquaWateria
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Wait till they show the actual damn thing.
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