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Report: NX Handheld Dimensions, Layout Info, Lack of Region Lock
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Shoulder and trigger, probably. Unless there is a symmetric trigger on the bottom that goes largely unused in normal operations.
Davey Cakes
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The return of the Gamecube's Z-button!
But honestly, I don't believe the mock ups. They may grasp the overall concept, but nothing about the placement of anything on the controllers themselves.
My opinion too. The fact that we have conflicting "sources" on the location of a stick means to me no-one really knows what they are talking about....
efyu_lemonardo
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Originally posted here: http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=212310276
Here's a mockup I made a couple days ago for the purpose of exploring ergonomics (i.e. It's meant to be comfortable, not necessarily pretty). I wanted to see if it was possible to have a configuration similar to the Wii U controller (and all conventional dual analog pads) where the top and bottom inputs are at an angle relative to one another. As we all know this is much more natural as the range of motion of the thumb forms an arc rather than a straight line. Every concept I've seen so far has given up on this in order to accommodate the detachable controllers being usable when held sideways. What I tried to do was design something that got around making this sacrifice. Let me know what you think.
Hydrargyrus
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I really hope it to dont look like the mockups... because looks like a real dissaster.
If it's like that, it seems to me even worse idea than WiiU. It's like those impossible and crazy concept arts for the upcoming consoles made by doubful 3D artists
If it's like that, it seems to me even worse idea than WiiU. It's like those impossible and crazy concept arts for the upcoming consoles made by doubful 3D artists
That's the thing about dev kits, things can change a lot for the consumer model.
Dr. Buni
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That could be such a mess.
Agree. It looks like an absolute mess. What game uses one stick, 4 face buttons and one shoulder button?
Garbage idea and unfortunately, knowing Nintendo it will be followed by garbage execution. REALLY hoping I'm proven wrong.
Pancake Mix
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The split d-pad makes perfect sense now. In fact I wonder if both sides will have the split d-pad acting as four face buttons (and possibly labelled as such, I.E. A1, A2) instead of normal face buttons.
Better be 4 shoulder buttons though Nintendo, hopefully including analogue triggers again (which haven't been around since the original Wii Classic Controller, I believe due to legal issues). How else will we get Sunshine HD?!
Except they didn't say anything about a split D-pad on the right side. Or redundant shoulder buttons. And it's directly contradicted by the home/share buttons.
Dark Cloud
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Nobody else thinks they can do like they did with the Wii remote having the B button in the back and do the same here?
GiantBreadbug
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Also what are these detachable controllers latching onto when the main device is docked to the TV? Did I miss that somewhere? Or do you just hold them both like dual Wii Remotes?
DrROBschiz
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If they are going to go with split dpad... I really hope they find a clever form for the buttons to take so that they function as both effectively
Sounds like a jack of all trades solution that will be subpar for both functions :/
Sounds like a jack of all trades solution that will be subpar for both functions :/
brandonh83
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Okay I need this thing announced now. I'm both excited and concerned if this stuff is real. If it's just a handheld with a screen and gimped TV support I'm not going to be thrilled. But it's still a wait and see.
Yes, i know. But i guess they could still easily move those.
Not even rumor, just speculation iirc.
Pancake Mix
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No, I think Nintendo's betting on core gamers ignoring that gimmick but it being relatively inoffensive. A split d-pad makes perfect sense now too, and beside it's worked for PS consoles, long after Nintendo's patent has expired. I prefer the cross design though.
That's what I expect. Honestly I don't think the detachable controllers will be usable for every game, but rather for specifically designed party games that don't require a full breadth of button options. You'll have your thumbstick, 4 face buttons and the trigger with maybe the shoulder button also in play. That 6 total, with 4 as an absolute minimum. That's more than enough for a lot multiplayer games. Wii survived on less. Not to mention possible motion control or gyro.
Dr. Buni
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For what is worth, it will make replacing faulty buttons easier. That is, assuming the rumors are true and that Nintendo will sell the controllers separated from the NX itself.
I would detach them to play with my brother, again, assuming there are cool games that are playable with one stick and with one shoulder button. If that is how the NX will be, then I assume the NX games will be designed in a way that makes playing then with one stick possible... I am not sure if I like this, though .
If it means anything I had the same idea. I just think it is an awful one, hah.I don't design hardware for a living, if that wasn't obvious.
So... not a fan of Wiimote controls? I sure hope they come back for FPS.
Nintendo going back to a normal D-pad seems more likely than the identical controllers idea. That at least has historical precedent.
What would be the point then if they hope people will ignore it? Save the money and make a decent console lol
TheGreatMightyPoo
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I think it's what Eurogamer heard so more a rumor than speculation.
Their other, proven sources corroborated everything else. Plus, didn't 6.2'' come from another source?
Wait, if the detached controllers have triggers, doesn't that mean you'd have to hold it upright and not horizontal Wiimote style?
That and if the right piece is identical to the left piece but just in the reverse, doesn't that mean the triggers would be at the bottom of one of the controllers if you flip it around?
Now i'm confused
That and if the right piece is identical to the left piece but just in the reverse, doesn't that mean the triggers would be at the bottom of one of the controllers if you flip it around?
Now i'm confused
We are both, then, probably not professional designers!
Pancake Mix
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Simple games could be played multiplayer with detachable controllers. A 6" 720p screen is certainly good enough for that job. Think a simplified Nintendoland or Mario Party, or NES VC titles.
For games more our taste from the 3D Mario team, Monolith Soft, etc., both pads can be kept firmly in place.
PRobably.
All these things do is replace what a wiimote turned sideways was used for. Super Mario bros. VC games. Minigames. Party games. etc etc. Who doesn't do that already ...except for you?
I think it is cool and yet at the same time, ....I have 4 wiimotes that can turn sideways and a Wii U. Not a big selling pt for me.
So yet again, another useless Nintendo gimmick which could of been saved by making a proper console?
Mihos
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I can't stand the WiiMote. I stopped buying games that I couldn't use the pro controller pretty early in the Wii days.
I am just hoping it is pretty easy to ignore and that the ergonomics don't suffer for it. The WiiU game pad is actually pretty comfortable to me, so I am hoping for more like that and less like the 3DS... that thing kills my hands.
efyu_lemonardo
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Good point!
Pancake Mix
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Well, this is no normal console to begin with if all the rumours are true, it's a tablet-looking semi-portable that's too big for pockets, something the XL was already pushing.
th3sicknness
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Gyro is different than wii remote waggle.. You have gyro in cell phones and tablets which is completely fine. People tie the Wii to the remote so you cant have any part of making a new system with a Wii type remote or waggle.
If you only wanted single player handheld games then there's likely no need to detach them. For home console gamers it seems pointless as people will clearly want to buy more substantial controllers anyway.
I have always hated the hybrid concept for some of reasons we're seeing here. Compromising both handheld and console control to try and have something that suits both ..made far worse by the fact they seem intent on making basic 2 player multiplayer tablet games a focus (which seems like a very niche thing to bother with IMO).
I'd much rather be able to buy a handheld which is one solid piece...or a home console that has a substantial controller..than a weird mixture of the two. Each individual unit would be cheaper than a hybrid as well.
I'll being keeping my fingers crossed that we'll see a simple home console only device (that plays the same games) by the end of 2017 (or sooner).
Mihael Mello Keehl
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It will with Zelda I bet
Well you always seem like a selfish poster so yeah for you.. I agreePlaying on a handheld > Playing on console, so that alone makes Zelda NX more appealing than Zelda U
Yep, the Vita sticks are really good. Not perfect, but neither are the pads.
peanutbutterlatte
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The 3DS has one of the strongest handheld libraries of all time as it is, if you've never owned one you're in for a real treat.
You and me both.
To be fair though, this is a compromise between smartphone and dedicated handheld more than anything else. You've got a touch-only mode that is suitable for the really casual stuff (more substantial versions of Nintendo's mobile games?), and two basic attachments that can function as mini-Wiimotes and double as a set of traditional controls you'd see on a proper handheld. Anything we've heard about TV play features for this device seem like an afterthought.
Christ man, did his post punctuated by a smily emoticon really hurt your feelings that much?
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