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Report: NX Handheld Dimensions, Layout Info, Lack of Region Lock
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Cooler, less noise, more efficient. I don't think this is an unrealistic assumption/expectation.
Vampirolol
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Can't believe in no camera and no mic. But it's Nintendo and they have a habit of scrapping good things just because.
Probably the logic is that you need the 3.0 port just for an external HDD.
Devilgunman
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Sure. I want to believe.
purseowner
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I'm one of the few that'll miss the 3D (unless that patent comes to fruition).
Dark Cloud
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Oh thank god! Best news ever.
Also, where would the camera and microphone be?
Also, sounds like the dock doesn't do any boost of power.
iKnackwurst
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Maybe it's actively cooled while in docked mode?
Vampirolol
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I'm going to miss it too. Loved it from day one, never had a headache.
No mic or camera would be weird considering how many past games it would break. Seems more likely it just isn't in the dev kits yet for whatever reason.
iKnackwurst
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That contradicts what she wrote right above the bullet points: "Here is what you can expect from the final retail product:"If only the dev kit was missing camera and mic why mention it in the specs for the final product?
This wouldn't be an issue with no BC.
Also I realised now that continued support for 3ds into 2018 means most probably no BC with 3ds either.
Stairouais
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Is there honestly one game that made good use of either of those? (Genuine question)
Although that doesn't bode well for NX online functionalities, but again, it's Nintendo, we shouldn't expect party chat.
That's possible since it'd be actively cooling a GPU at the 1.5TFLOPS that was claimed for Parker. (Claims of 50% increase in performance over TX1.)
Problem is, we don't know what dev kit/prototype this is still. Does it have the Parker-based GPU or does it have TX1?
That is true, lack of camera and mic would be problematic for Virtual Console DS games.
Dark Cloud
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But why would it not have a camera? I thought they wanted casual people? Camera is great to video chat or other apps. And microphone to talk to other people. But yeah she said this would be the final product.
Haha, at least nobody will complain anymore about party chat if there's no microphone.
HandsomeCharles
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I didn't mean so much her. I meant people online (and in many cases, here) making outlandish claims about how foolish a decision something is, and how they are definitely going to buy (or not buy) something based on the rumour.
They seem all too happy to ignore disclaimers when posed with the option of jumping to conclusions and causing a scene, and it frustrates me to no end.
iKnackwurst
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I can imagine a mic being built into each controller side for multiplayer games, so it technically would not be in the device itself and fit the statement. But the camera? I know Nintendo cameras were always bad but if this thing can be used in a tablet mode it would be a no brainer to include one if they want to support their own games like Pokemon GO.
Vampirolol
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I can't remember any game using either in a very interesting way, unless you have an IR camera and expand on the AR idea. But for social gaming done right in 2017, you need both.
Nothing1016
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Two for smash adapter and one for external hard drives. Perfect honestly.
540p was perfect for a 5" screen. For a 6"2, it would be a pretty significantly lower ppi than a Vita so that's starting to be a problem i think. 720p at 6" will give us a 220ppi screen if i'm not wrong or something like that.
Dark Cloud
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Camera and microphone are not built into the NX portable device.
So she said "NX portable device". Seems like choice words when she could've said NX and left the portable device part out. Yeah, I was going to say maybe their in the controllers.
And yeah they confirmed their games mobile games would work with this. I can't remember if Miitomo uses the camera to build your character? I mean I guess they could take it out...
3 USB Ports = GCN Adapter + USB 3.0 HDD or HDD + USB hub.
No mic - maybe via headphones like on a mobile device.
noisy - maybe the fan is only active when in docked mode due to overclocking? Is that feasible or wouldn't it make any sense?
ahead of schedule: Makes sense, since it was supposed to launch earlier, but was pushed back due to games no being there?!
I'm hoping we have less than 30 days to go until we know what this thing really is. And after that it shouldn't even be half a year until it launches - I'm ready for new Nintendo hardware
No mic - maybe via headphones like on a mobile device.
noisy - maybe the fan is only active when in docked mode due to overclocking? Is that feasible or wouldn't it make any sense?
ahead of schedule: Makes sense, since it was supposed to launch earlier, but was pushed back due to games no being there?!
I'm hoping we have less than 30 days to go until we know what this thing really is. And after that it shouldn't even be half a year until it launches - I'm ready for new Nintendo hardware
Absolutely, I mean I can't see a reason why you wouldn't just have all 3x of them be USB 3.0. Cost isn't really a factor anymore and its future proof.
I guess it must save a few pennies or a few volts of power?
Ah, this makes sense. Hopefully they support bluetooth headphones too.
No stylus makes sense. You can use a stylus on phone/tablet but they don't feel very good unless you're used to them. Fingers for gaming makes a lot more sense, especially if the game needs quick reactions. Can't grab your stylus when you're also supposed to hold the console and also press buttons.
Dark Cloud
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Yeah, it's strange. Idk what to think of this system just based off the info we have. It's no biggie I don't use the camera or mic anyways lol.
But she said she's not sure about there being trigger buttons?
Hmm... the camera and microphone could end up on the detachable controller assuming it helps to save space
You wouldn't expect them to provide a headset.
The NX itself still needs space for speakers and a rear camera(if there is one). Maybe they'll go for a thin bezel just to stick those in the rear.
You wouldn't expect them to provide a headset.
The NX itself still needs space for speakers and a rear camera(if there is one). Maybe they'll go for a thin bezel just to stick those in the rear.
NintendosBooger
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Übermatik;215707831 said:
I think their absence is a positive sign. Means no goofy or gimmicky implementation in games like blowing into the mic or taking your picture.
Well, she said she hadn't heard about them, not that they don't exist. I don't see any way Nintendo goes with less buttons than Wii U/N3DS. BotW has to play on this thing and it uses every one of those buttons.
Cameras in the controllers seems weird but I suppose it would allow them more flexibility to point anywhere in relation to the screen.
Toadthemushroom
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14mm is a pretty nice thickness. The Vita-1000 was one whole part instead of a clamshell design like 3DS, and was way too thick and heavy for its size (18mm). Vita-2000 slimmed it down to 15mm, and it's quite a comfortable thickness. So 14mm for the dev kit should make for a portable unit that's nice to hold, and for detachable controllers which feel quite nice in the hand to grip.
I still don't like the idea that it's actively cooled, though. No portable device shipping in 2016 should be, though if it means unthrottled performance on the X1 in a tiny form factor I guess it's worth it.
Still, it's a shame Apple makes the best SoCs on the market. Last year's A9X and its twin Twister CPU cores run rings around the X1, and its GPU is basically a match. And it doesn't need active cooling, doesn't throttle (though the GPU was slightly underclocked in the 9.7" iPad Pro) and fits inside a thin form factor like the iPad Pro 9.7". But it's also 16nm compared with X1's 20nm, so I wonder if Nvidia has something more modern for Nintendo by the time the system launches.
I still don't like the idea that it's actively cooled, though. No portable device shipping in 2016 should be, though if it means unthrottled performance on the X1 in a tiny form factor I guess it's worth it.
Still, it's a shame Apple makes the best SoCs on the market. Last year's A9X and its twin Twister CPU cores run rings around the X1, and its GPU is basically a match. And it doesn't need active cooling, doesn't throttle (though the GPU was slightly underclocked in the 9.7" iPad Pro) and fits inside a thin form factor like the iPad Pro 9.7". But it's also 16nm compared with X1's 20nm, so I wonder if Nvidia has something more modern for Nintendo by the time the system launches.
That's a good point. Especially no camera means a very thin bezel on the tablet part is possible.
Guys they're cutting costs. Removing mic and camera is the first thing i would have done, they're simply useless. No camera would confirm no AR though. Having 1 USB less shouldn't be a huge problem either, i only used one on Wii U every now and then and even adding an external drive would have meant using 3 at most. Also adding a 3.0 port means that we don't need to use 2 ports for a HDD, and the system supports micro sd so the number of USB ports seems fine. Hopefully they don't skimp on quality for the 720p panel, it has to be IPS at least.
I'm sure the battery will be shit, but i'm not worried about cooling. They'll fix that with Pascal in the final unit. What i'm actually worried about is the industrial design, cause i think that this thing will look like crap and have awful build quality. Hope i'm wrong.
I'm sure the battery will be shit, but i'm not worried about cooling. They'll fix that with Pascal in the final unit. What i'm actually worried about is the industrial design, cause i think that this thing will look like crap and have awful build quality. Hope i'm wrong.
Takashi Mochizuki's own NX article will be up soon. He's from WSJ. Says no surprises for the likes of us. Still, whatever he will report on will make previous rumors more credible, as it means more sources will have mentioned it now. (Assuming he and Emily/LPVG have different sources.)
https://twitter.com/mochi_wsj/status/771655078025400320
https://twitter.com/mochi_wsj/status/771655078025400320
Damn it. You set my expectations too high. lol
I still think there is at least ONE piece of the puzzle that we are missing because not only does the NX kinda sound like a clusterfuck right now, but it also doesn't seem to innovate much at all. If the NX was basically just a strong handheld with a dock, why pretend that it needs to be kept a secret or else the competiton may steal it? It doesn't really make sense. ESPECIALLY since the competition isn't coming out with handhelds of their own anyway.
All I can say is that this September should prove to be interesting...
All I can say is that this September should prove to be interesting...
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