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[Kilau]

So, wait, what two-page addendum is NBC debunking?

I think this: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/t...jects-dossier-alleged-russia-dealings-n705586

According to the senior official, the two-page summary about the unsubstantiated material made available to the briefers was to provide context, should they need it, to draw the distinction for Trump between analyzed intelligence and unvetted "disinformation."

 

[jstripes]

Why are people claiming this is fake news when Obama and Trump were briefed on it?

Anything you don't like is "fake news" now.

 

[Tugatrix]

here we go, he didn't do anything because he feared cameras, not because he didn't want

Oh I saw germophobes living in the dirties of places

 

[WedgeX]

So, wait, what two-page addendum is NBC debunking?

They have one source saying that it was an example of disinformation, although that contradicts the digging that the NY Times has done.

• Last year, a Washington political research firm, paid by Mr. Trump’s Republican rivals, hired a retired British intelligence officer to investigate the candidate’s ties to Russia.

• After it became clear that Mr. Trump would be the Republican nominee, Democratic clients began to pay the firm for this same “opposition research,” standard practice in politics.

• The former British spy, who had long experience in Russia and a network of connections there, compiled dozens of reports detailing what he heard from his contacts. The memos he wrote, mostly one to three pages long, are dated from June to December.

• The memos contain unsubstantiated claims that Russian officials tried to obtain influence over Mr. Trump by preparing to blackmail him with sex tapes and bribe him with business deals. They also claim that the Trump campaign met with Russian operatives to discuss the Russians’ hacking and their leaking of emails and documents from the Democratic National Committee and from Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman, John D. Podesta.

• The Washington firm and the former British spy, not identified here because of a confidential source agreement with The New York Times, gave the memos first to their clients but later to the F.B.I. and multiple journalists at The Times and elsewhere. The memos, totaling about 35 pages, also reached a number of members of Congress.

• Last week, when the F.B.I., C.I.A. and National Security Agency gave a classified report on the Russian hacking and leaking and efforts to influence the presidential election to Mr. Obama, Mr. Trump and congressional leaders, they attached a two-page summary of the unverified allegations in the memos.

And from the BBC:

The BBC also first saw the documents in October, but has been unable to verify the information included.

However, the BBC learned in November that the CIA was treating the information as "credible". The author of the dossier is understood to be a former British intelligence agent.

 

[Kiever Sher]

You're not SUPPOSED to take two billion dollars from property developers. Presidents always wanting credit for stuff they're supposed to do.

 

[MUnited83]

Considering the current showing at the press conference, I would have more respect for him if the allegations are true and he is directly involved with Russia, than he just being the dumbest idiot in existence that is being manipulated and played so well by Putin he might as well be connected to a PlayStation 2 controller.

 

[Lord Frieza]

Man, I have never seen Trump like this at all. I mean, he's had some incoherent stuff before, but he really seems totally out of it here.

 

[Adam_Vania]

Anything you don't like is "fake news" now.

including apparently the real news (from NBC, so you know it's "real") that the documents were fake:

Officials prepared a two-page summary of the dossier, which was originally generated as part of opposition research by anti-Trump Republicans and then shopped by Democrats. The officials said the summary was generated for Trump's briefing Friday at Trump Tower in New York.

Multiple officials say that the summary was included in the material prepared for the briefers, but the senior official told NBC News that the briefing was oral and no actual documents were left with the Trump team in New York. During the briefing, the president-elect was not briefed on the contents of the summary .

"Intel and law enforcement officials agree that none of the investigations have found any conclusive or direct link between Trump and the Russian government period," the senior official said.

According to the senior official, the two-page summary about the unsubstantiated material made available to the briefers was to provide context, should they need it, to draw the distinction for Trump between analyzed intelligence and unvetted "disinformation."

The briefers also had available to them unvetted "disinformation" about the Clinton Foundation, although that was not orally shared with Trump.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/t...jects-dossier-alleged-russia-dealings-n705586

 

[kess]

fucking asshole just blew off the tax returns

 

[LiquidSword]

So stop falling for fake news, and start attacking Trump on substance. I know it's tricky because liberals spent the last year defending Clinton's wall st connections, Obama's drone program, and now most absurdly the valor of the CIA.

We need a strong independent left to fight Trump, not desperate elite neoliberals clinging to power after the most embarrassing political loss in generations.

Lol what the fuck are you talking about?

 

[Officerrob]

This is an even bigger joke than I imagined

 

[KHarvey16]

People are not understanding that NBC report. It quotes a source saying the summary was an example of unvetted intel and then puts disinformation in quotes. If it's unvetted that means they don't know if it's true or disinformation, hence the quotes. It says nothing about credibility.

 

[tedrotheredro]

He won, so we don't need to see the tax returns.

:|

 

[Sianos]

They missed the deadline to sign up for the "Identifying Fake News" webinar so they were forced to do it in person.

They even made John McCain himself deliver the material in person months in advance and had it compiled by a former M16 agent! Wow, they sure we're thorough.

NBC's take seems incongruous to me.

 

[VendettaRed07]

"I'm not going to show my returns because they are under audit

also I won so I don't have to show them".

 

[sugarhigh4242]

Lol what the fuck are you talking about?

I'm talking about the shameful dissemination of false stories by some of the most prominent US newspapers. The PropOrNot story, and the Vermont power plant hacking stories in the Washington Post were particularly egregious.

This whole narrative of scary Russian hackers undermining America is like a security blanket for liberals so they don't have to do the serious introspection about why they failed so spectacularly.

 

[Twilight Princess]

Is trump even a native speaker of english?

 

[Gattsu25]

Man, I have never seen Trump like this at all. I mean, he's had some incoherent stuff before, but he really seems totally out of it here.

What the...?

I assume you have never actually watched a full unscripted campaign rally from Trump.

He was more on message during this than I've ever seen him without a teleprompter.

 

[ZOONAMI]

They have one source saying that it was an example of disinformation, although that contradicts the digging that the NY Times has done.



And from the BBC:

McCain and the CIA are going to sink this asshole.

 

[e_i]

McCain and the CIA are going to sink this asshole.

And Graham.

 

[Holy Order Sol]

Is trump even a native speaker of english?

lmao

 

[Gattsu25]

McCain and the CIA are going to sink this asshole.

Hmmm.... If anything I think this may sink McCain.

 

[Trojita]

I think this: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/t...jects-dossier-alleged-russia-dealings-n705586

President-elect Donald Trump was not told about unverified reports that Russia has compromising information on him during last week's intelligence briefing, according to a senior intelligence official with knowledge of preparations for the briefing.

Hmmmm

MOSCOW — President-elect Donald Trump was not told about unverified reports that Russia has compromising information on him during last week's intelligence briefing, according to a senior intelligence official with knowledge of preparations for the briefing.

by Alexey Eremenko

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

 

[Brawly Likes to Brawl]

Get ready for the next 4 years when ever he fucks up "Yeah but would Hilary have been better in this situation? I don't think so!"

Yeah, they're basically going to pretend this is election season like Democrats think they're still in the primaries.

 

[Gun Animal]

McCain and the CIA are going to sink this asshole.

here's how bernie can still win

 

[Adam_Vania]

People are not understanding that NBC report. It quotes a source saying the summary was an example of unvetted intel and then puts disinformation in quotes. If it's unvetted that means they don't know if it's true or disinformation, hence the quotes. It says nothing about credibility.

so basically the news is printing stuff they don't know is true or not, that makes me feel a whole lot better

 

[jakonovski]

I'm talking about the shameful dissemination of false stories by some of the most prominent US newspapers. The PropOrNot story, and the Vermont power plant hacking stories in the Washington Post were particularly egregious.

This whole narrative of scary Russian hackers undermining America is like a security blanket for liberals so they don't have to do the serious introspection about why they failed so spectacularly.

Dude, how can you live with hitching your trailer to that orange Manchurian cheeto? Seriously, have some self respect.

 

[zelas]

Wrong thread

 

[ZOONAMI]

Hmmmm





HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Wait is that from a Russian paper?

lol NBC has a Russian source

 

[Kilau]

Hmmmm





HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Comrade pls

 

[Lord Frieza]

What the...?

I assume you have never actually watched a full unscripted campaign rally from Trump.

He was more on message during this than I've ever seen him without a teleprompter.

I have many times. And we must be watching two different things. He was all over the place in that conference, especially once questions started.

 

[Charles Foster Kane]

I'll just repost this here:

What with the stuff, the apology and everything else recently, I'm 90% certain Trump is some people's sub and that he's getting one of the most public humilliations any sub ever could get.

I'd like to think Trump is somehow, for some fucked up reason (he lost a bet, owes some big shit, or something), was forced to run for office and he is desperatedly trying to get out, but stupid people still support him. Or maybe he's just a dumb evil guy.

 

[ezekial45]

EDIT: My bad, old article.

TIME is talking about it now. They bring up the financial details.

They even used the PutinXTrump kissing mural

http://time.com/4433880/donald-trump-ties-to-russia/?xid=time_socialflow_twitter

 

[Gun Animal]

Dude, how can you live with hitching your trailer to that orange Manchurian cheeto? Seriously, have some self respect.

How can you live with hitching your trailer to a loser?

 

[Vazra]

Was this book posted?
Domald Tromp Pounded In The Butt By The Handsome Russian T-Rex Who Also Peed On His Butt And Then Blackmailed Him With A Video Of His Butt Getting Peed On

Also anyone read it?

 

[smokeymicpot]

After the shit show conference I am gonna go with this might actually be real. This dug him a shitty hole sadly he will get out of.

 

[marrec]

How can you live with hitching your trailer to a loser?

got eeem!

 

[BowieZ]

Wait is that from a Russian paper?

lol NBC has a Russian source

Alexey Eremenko tweeted this pro-Trump op-ed in the Moscow Times.

https://themoscowtimes.com/articles/american-unintelligence-on-russia-op-ed-56746

See: https://mobile.twitter.com/EremenkoAlexey?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author

His NBC report cannot be trusted.

 

[Officerrob]

After this woman eventually stops speaking, he's going to take more questions...right?

 

[KHarvey16]

so basically the news is printing stuff they don't know is true or not, that makes me feel a whole lot better

Buzzfeed released it. Many other news organizations were in the process of verifying it. The report has existed and been in the hands of media and others for awhile.

 

[Baron von Loathsome]

Was this book posted?
Domald Tromp Pounded In The Butt By The Handsome Russian T-Rex Who Also Peed On His Butt And Then Blackmailed Him With A Video Of His Butt Getting Peed On

Also anyone read it?

Chuck Tingle is the gift that keeps on giving.

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

Alexey Eremenko tweeted this pro-Trump op-ed in the Moscow Times.

https://themoscowtimes.com/articles/american-unintelligence-on-russia-op-ed-56746

See: https://mobile.twitter.com/EremenkoAlexey?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author

His NBC report cannot be trusted.

bwahahahaha

what a fucking twist

 

[RedShift]

After this woman eventually stops speaking, he's going to take more questions...right?

Ha, nah

 

[kess]

Hmmmm





HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

I just can't

 

[bob_arctor]

Alexey Eremenko tweeted this pro-Trump op-ed in the Moscow Times.

https://themoscowtimes.com/articles/american-unintelligence-on-russia-op-ed-56746

See: https://mobile.twitter.com/EremenkoAlexey?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author

His NBC report cannot be trusted.

This rabbit hole is deeper than the farthest reaches of the galaxy.

 

[Nafai1123]

including apparently the real news (from NBC, so you know it's "real") that the documents were fake:

This report goes against what Trump just said in his presser. He said he read the information after the briefing but NBC is saying it only presented orally.

 

[Zyae]

People are not understanding that NBC report. It quotes a source saying the summary was an example of unvetted intel and then puts disinformation in quotes. If it's unvetted that means they don't know if it's true or disinformation, hence the quotes. It says nothing about credibility.

This is accurate

 

[The Technomancer]

EDIT: Nvm

 

[jstripes]

including apparently the real news (from NBC, so you know it's "real") that the documents were fake:

"Unsubstantiated" does not mean "fake". It just means the intelligence community is unable/unwilling to confirm its veracity.

All of it could be untrue, but it also lines up pretty nicely with things we already know.

 

[B-Dubs]

Was this book posted?
Domald Tromp Pounded In The Butt By The Handsome Russian T-Rex Who Also Peed On His Butt And Then Blackmailed Him With A Video Of His Butt Getting Peed On

Also anyone read it?

His photoshop work is amazing as always.

Alexey Eremenko tweeted this pro-Trump op-ed in the Moscow Times.

https://themoscowtimes.com/articles/american-unintelligence-on-russia-op-ed-56746

See: https://mobile.twitter.com/EremenkoAlexey?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author

His NBC report cannot be trusted.

Comrade? Comrade!

In all seriousness though, his report does fly against what everyone else has been reporting.