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Reports on Russian connections to Trump [Summaries in OP] #GoldenShowers
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TheOfficeMut
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Temper your expectations no matter what. Until he is in court and found guilty, you need to assume the worst but hope for the best. Assume he is still becoming president and lasting 4, if not 8 years but hope for the best, regardless.
Do not disappoint yourself.
Ravensmash
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Went onto Facebook news comments (Sky News specifically).
Anyone who thinks this will make a difference to his support base... Lol.
Anyone who thinks this will make a difference to his support base... Lol.
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Dont get confused by misinformation, nothing has been debunked.
KernelPanic
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TheMortarion
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Exactly. Everything I saw on twitter could have been used as inspiration for Trumps very own words today. "Fake News" everywhere.
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
It won't chances are it will divide us a little bit more. Still preventing total chaos when he is president. His supporters will denounce all CNN articles and the next outlet so and so fourth.
Curt Baboon
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No fucking way. Trump will never even set foot in jail.
BronsonLee
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I don't care about his support base, I care about the people who know they fucked up
LegendofJoe
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He's one of the few Trump appointments that is both qualified and is ostensibly a decent human being. I'd rather he stay in the administration.
My feed is the same way. In fact, it's overwhelmingly more about 4chan fan fic/Trump "calling out" CNN than anything being discussed here. I've seen some people saying the 4channer is currently verifying himself as the writer of the report so that Trump can sue Buzzfeed and CNN and bankrupt them in a fashion similar to Gawker.
TheOfficeMut
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Wow. That looks so stupid.
sugarhigh4242
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always knew deep down mccain was a good guy when he jumped on the parks and rec bandwagon
Jolly good chum
https://youtu.be/o-zoPgv_nYg
Gnome Scat
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IT WAS ME, TRUMP
IT WAS ME ALL ALONG, TRUMP
PLEASE CLAP
IT WAS ME ALL ALONG, TRUMP
PLEASE CLAP
Kill Your Masters
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I don't think anyone thinks that anymore. But they will have to accept the consequences if this turns out to be true. (Treason, impeachment, whatever happens to their beloved leader)
Joel Was Right
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Crucially, nothing has been proved or put forward as evidence.
I honestly do not understand the snowball effect this has had. The FBI has had this information since the summer.
Buckle up:
Basically, we know who crafted the dossier (a well known British Intelligence agent who now works in the private industry) and BBC reporter is saying that they have more than one source on this.
Articles have come out telling us why this is a big deal and why there is probably something to this whole thing
And to cap it all off: the investigation was initiated by a SuperPAC supporting Jeb Bush.
The short version: This is gaining traction, has credibility, and many people are working hard on this story to find out more. Did Buzzfeed make a mistake posting the entire dossier? Maybe. But what that has meant is that all of this is out in the open, and everyone's pushing to get this figured out before its too late.
Yes.
The beautiful thing here is that it doesn't matter at all what his supporters and base think. It doesn't matter.
If this is all true, and he is found guilty, they don't change one thing. Except at that time we'll know that they supported a trailer to the US.
In the extremely unlikely scenario this prevents a Trump presidency, maybe these idiots will never vote again because "the system" doesn't allow them to be heard. Man that would be beautiful.
Ooooooh boy. Is he talking about the BuzzFeed report?
Will the Thrill
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At this point if god want's to show he's real he'll just reach down from the clouds on the 20th and pick up Trump from the inauguration ceremony
He'll look like this:
SparkleMotion
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Everyone needs to realize that "unverified" does not mean "debunked" or "fake". There is enough there for it to be brought to the attention of the president.
Not my best work...
LMAO this is exactly what I was envisioning and trying to work on
Why am I even surprised anymore?
Is it any less outrageous than every.single.fucking.thing.he.has.tweeted/said?
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They asked him what he meant with nazi germany in his tweet when he was talking about the intelligence community, he went in to rant about how disgraceful they were, and called cnn fake news and told a cnn reporter that cnn was fake news, and to be quiet.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/11/trump-russia-dossier-explainer-details
(To be precise, Peskov said the Kremlin doesn't collect kompromat which may technically be true.)
DragonSworne
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Well, it's s good thing his base is not the court system and the IC.
aspiegamer
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I can't even say I'd be surprised by this twist. At this point I'm just trying to laugh at everything. We entered "reality is stranger than fiction" territory the instant Trump entered the race and have only gotten deeper since, so nothing should be truly shocking anymore.
Wow, that was an extremely elaborate way to take down the Shrina building.
Gnome Scat
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The keys to America should be given to Jeb! for his service.
Nah. It would suffice if you would see him snorting coke or being intoxinated during the act, or maybe some foul/racist language about the Obamas and the bed. Or mysogynistic stuff.
A video is way more powerful than an audio tape.
Even the GOP would act then, as it would be absolutely destroying what is left of the honor of the office of the president.
The real power of something like this is the blackmail power over the guy mortified of it leaking though, which starts an endless cycle of getting that guy more and more obidient and thus more fearful of being exposed. Trump himself would do everything to avoid having something like this come out, including changing GOP stance on Ukraine, getting a Putin friend as SecState and shitting on the FSB's rivals even if that means going against his own intelligence apparatus in favor of another country.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/11/trump-russia-dossier-explainer-details
(To be precise, Peskov said the Kremlin doesn't collect kompromat which may technically be true.)
Bless your fine work in reporting these to us this last day. Bless.
fuck it, I'll take it
Well there is no doubt some of the deplorables are in the IC and the courts. I mean the NBC bullshit "debunking"was a lackey / pro-Putin.
WiiredShawn
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I'm gonna say it's because the general election is over. Obama didn't want to touch it out of concerns for seeming like he was trying to sway the election; Comey didn't want to touch it because he was busy trying to bury Hillary; and the American public wouldn't bother with it because it would be played off as "Hillary trying to deflect attention away from EMAILS".
But now that Republicans are in full control of the government and Hillary is out of the picture, people can actually focus on the ramifications of this story rather than imagining its some kind of curve ball in their partisan baseball game.
TangoAlphaLima
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Eh, it's already too late. Sure, it's possible Trump will be impeached and removed from office, but then Pence takes over (assuming he had no involvement, or at least plausible deniability). Pence may be more sane than Trump, but his policies are bad too.
Hillary needed this evidence to be confirmed for her October surprise that would have relegated "OMG, more emails" to the back pages. Now it is of marginal benefit.
So far, it appears there are two pretty solid issues with the report
A) Cohen appears to have never went to Prague
https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...is-fake-news-meant-to-malign-mr-trump/512762/
https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/819187673961287681
B) The head of Jeb!'s Super PAC is saying that they never heard of this guy
https://twitter.com/murphymike/status/819274352835383302
and, as one of Jeb!'s staffers points out, if they had ever gotten any of this info, it would have all been used immediately
https://twitter.com/Timodc/status/819275671142879243
From the press conference, Trump didn't actually answer the question about whether his campaign had contact with the Russians during the election though, and tried to conflate the CNN and Buzzfeed reports as the same thing, even though they are different (CNN's report was that Obama and Trump were presented with a two page summary, Buzzfeed published the memos that generated the two page summary. To make this more confusing, NBC is reporting that Trump was never actually told about the summary, which goes against what CNN is saying partially).
Basically, this is all sort of sketchy, and Trump is trying to use the sketchiness to try to confuse people.
NBC article: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/t...jects-dossier-alleged-russia-dealings-n705586
EDIT: In related news, the hearings for his cabinet members goes through today, including Tillerson, except with this out, no one seems to particularly care. :/
A) Cohen appears to have never went to Prague
https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...is-fake-news-meant-to-malign-mr-trump/512762/
https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/819187673961287681
B) The head of Jeb!'s Super PAC is saying that they never heard of this guy
https://twitter.com/murphymike/status/819274352835383302
and, as one of Jeb!'s staffers points out, if they had ever gotten any of this info, it would have all been used immediately
https://twitter.com/Timodc/status/819275671142879243
From the press conference, Trump didn't actually answer the question about whether his campaign had contact with the Russians during the election though, and tried to conflate the CNN and Buzzfeed reports as the same thing, even though they are different (CNN's report was that Obama and Trump were presented with a two page summary, Buzzfeed published the memos that generated the two page summary. To make this more confusing, NBC is reporting that Trump was never actually told about the summary, which goes against what CNN is saying partially).
Basically, this is all sort of sketchy, and Trump is trying to use the sketchiness to try to confuse people.
NBC article: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/t...jects-dossier-alleged-russia-dealings-n705586
EDIT: In related news, the hearings for his cabinet members goes through today, including Tillerson, except with this out, no one seems to particularly care. :/
Kill Your Masters
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Plot twist: republicans knew all along, used him to get to power, will drop him now. I mean we are living in a Tom Clancy novel now so anything goes.
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