Raven117
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Not completely. Its a difficult legal question actually.
But look no further than Nixon and Clinton...and both of those were small potatoes compared to what is being alleged.
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Reports on Russian connections to Trump [Summaries in OP] #GoldenShowers
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Not completely. Its a difficult legal question actually.
But look no further than Nixon and Clinton...and both of those were small potatoes compared to what is being alleged.
Carpe Libertatem
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All we know is that there was a different Cohen with the same birthday in Prague at the same time.
It was a low confidence part of the report anyway.
ultratruman
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I am close to someone who used to be in a really senior position in the CIA, says this document looks exactly like a typical 'field memo' an MI6 agent might produce, and is almost definitely authentic. small errors in spelling/exact places/ names are common in such documents, however. the intention from the IC would've then been to corroborate this information.
StopMakingSense
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As far as impeachment, it is solely Congress's discretion to invoke for any action they deem worthy.
Scofield94941
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Would be the perfect ending if Edward Snowden released the audio and video of Trump when he was in Russia, he is there for a reason. This is his destiny
Raven117
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The fact the report was penned by a ex-MI6 guy is not really in question.
What is in question is how reliable...how credible...is it actually true.
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As a user above said, it was already pointed out as potentially false, even still there was a michael cohen of the same age in prague at that time.
Now if you take this in to consideration, the rest of the report may actually gain legitimacy if it is already able to point out exactly what parts of it may be wrong.
The entirety of the House will be briefed on the classified information on Friday. That's pretty big.
Even if it came down to that, wouldn't it just be another Nixon with Pence pardoning Trump?
Nah. This Russian business isn't going away and the longer this stays in the news it doesn't help Trump at all. House intel committee gave the documents to ALL House members.
Shit is going to start leaking out, Possible hearings and Trumps presser this morning didn't help a GOD DAMN thing.
I'm thinking he either gets impeached sometimes in the next four years or so or gets crushed in the next election if he is still president by then.
Doesn't seem like betraying your country (one that you swear allegiance to on a bible) is a forgiveable offense.
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Beat EviLore at pool.
Yeah just need to hope it stays together.
Andersoon Cooper just said they report buzzfeed they have is different. What they have is different sources. They don't even mention buzzfeed.
Conway is speaking to him now. Conway is being Conway a crazy bitch. She keeps mashing buzzfeed and CNN together.
Conway just referenced NBC as well. They might mean the buzzfeed article.
tedrotheredro
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I doubt it. Treason > Obstruction of Justice. Also, it's widely thought that Nixon's pardon cost Ford his re-election.
Already Torn
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They have no idea what they're doing
The most interesting thing to me..is that it seems that between September 2010 and October 2010 something changed.
Trump before then had nothing but nice things to say about Obama for the most part. It the immediately changed to birther nonsense, him saying he was thinking about running and the birth of modern day Trump as we know.
What happened?
If we look at the timeline from the OP
6. At one point, Manafort went missing for 3 weeks. Roger Stone joked that he had been kidnapped by the Russians. This is about 2010
7. According to some members of the intelligence community, around the same time, Russia began cultivating Donald Trump as an intel asset
8. Timing, I'm sure, is totally coincidental. Just giving you a sense of where we're at in the history.
9. In 2011, Donald Trump starts the birther movement.
Trump before then had nothing but nice things to say about Obama for the most part. It the immediately changed to birther nonsense, him saying he was thinking about running and the birth of modern day Trump as we know.
What happened?
If we look at the timeline from the OP
6. At one point, Manafort went missing for 3 weeks. Roger Stone joked that he had been kidnapped by the Russians. This is about 2010
7. According to some members of the intelligence community, around the same time, Russia began cultivating Donald Trump as an intel asset
8. Timing, I'm sure, is totally coincidental. Just giving you a sense of where we're at in the history.
9. In 2011, Donald Trump starts the birther movement.
Knuckle Sandwich
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It would be hilarious if his hatred wasn't racially motivated.
Bam Bam Baklava
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The only person I trust with intel sources at NBC is Pete Williams. Has he said anything yet?
Jeb!
24 tells me no. Charles Logan GOAT corrupt president.
StrategyFan
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we need jack bauer to retrieve those tapes
The only way he gets pardoned is after he's removed from office, which is fine by me.
BuzzFeed releasing the report was a mistake, it's making it too easy to confuse the public
The Silver
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what wikileaks publishes are mostly primary sources, the issue is they have a clear agenda
reporting on what some one else already leaked is apparently seen as different from doing the actual leaking yourself, that's why the floodgates are open now that Buzzfield released the kraken
Spineless twits afraid of losing access to the president?
Bam Bam Baklava
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Anderson Cooper is blasting the NBC source.
EatinOlives
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Impeachment can only come from Congress, which is loaded with the GOP and I really doubt they'll want to do it. Not only is Orange Asshole from their own party, he's the GOP's best Useful Idiot. They can do literally whatever they want, and after his term(s) is/are over they can cart in literally anyone else and they'll seem measured and respectable no matter who it is.
Scofield94941
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He is with the Russians....this could work
Killer Queen
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Trump is uncontrollable and half his party actively hates him.
Along with all the intelligence agencies, and plenty more
elrechazado
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I think you are confused, because the authenticity of those emails was never in question.
Bam Bam Baklava
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He hasn't even made a decision with actual consequences on Americans, imagine how he reacts to that kind of reporting.
Technically, it was never confirmed to be authentic because the people who could confirm it wouldn't comment. It was assumed to be authentic given WL's relatively decent track record.
YourMaster
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I actually don't think it is. I think it's an ego thing.
If the allegations are proven to be true, wouldn't that essentially be treason? And why does Trump get to become POTUS when any of us normal folk would 1) not have survived any interview process with this amount of shit on shoulders and 2) be fired instantly if we had any of his legacy of shit on shoulders.
My apologies. I missed out that intel briefed to the President that has been circulating amongst the IC and media for months, that's fair game.
But yes, the rest of what I said, I still believe in. If media, high-level politicians and IC knew about this dossier that has been floating around and getting updated for months, a dossier that wasn't officially classified, and then suddenly its deemed credible enough to make it into a presidential brief...
Absolutely, its a journalist's responsibility to let the public know.
I commend Buzzfeed for specifying that yes it was unverified, pointing out typos and that claims could be true or not, that the dossier itself labels certain claims as not as strong as others. Buzzfeed isn't championing the memo as complete truth, its just released it.
And that's the right thing to do. And the right way to do this.
And to be fair, the media itself has been handling it relatively well. (except for MSNBC, who seems to be ignoring every bit of evidence and input besides their own, singular source) Condemning Buzzfeed, however, I cannot get behind.
Impeaching him wouldn't even cost them the Presidency. I think there's a status quo bias that is causing people to severely underestimate the odds of a Trump impeachment.
if anything ever comes of all this and Trump gets taken out of office, you know he would just instantly flee the country.
The sort of outright treason involved if the report is even half true would disgrace Trump and his whole family. I can't imagine them being welcome in any major city - the public would want to tear him apart. If there were the threat of serious jail time or even execution, Trump would be gone so fast he'd leave a smokey outline. Anyone left of his cronies close enough to be implicated would get eviscerated.
The sort of outright treason involved if the report is even half true would disgrace Trump and his whole family. I can't imagine them being welcome in any major city - the public would want to tear him apart. If there were the threat of serious jail time or even execution, Trump would be gone so fast he'd leave a smokey outline. Anyone left of his cronies close enough to be implicated would get eviscerated.
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Nah, otherwise this wouldnt have exploded.
wait ppl here still believe this is true? Read it all and don't post until you read it all http://gizmodo.com/4chan-idiots-claim-they-invented-the-trump-piss-report-1791067589
This makes me imagine the Feds showing up at Inaguration and Trump just booking it
That will kill the Republican Party in the next election. Depending on how long they wait to pull the trigger after verifiable evidence.
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And there's more of the interview, Anderson said they are airing all of it.
Hopefully God will reopen the land bridge long enough to get them all out at once.
Just don't let Christie anywhere near the bridge!!
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