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Reports on Russian connections to Trump [Summaries in OP] #GoldenShowers

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It is truly amazing at how successful Trump and his team are and utterly destroying long standing tradition. The next four years are going to be terrifying to watch as everything we have grown accustom to is questioned, torn down, vilified, and eviscerated with doublespeak.
 

Zereta

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Well McCain got his own sources involved as well and handed their report to the FBI. I'm pretty sure there are multiple sources saying the same thing which is why Officials believe this stuff is credible and they are looking to verify.

Yes.

I think my fascination with this comes from DNI's clarification that the leaked dossier did not play a role in formulating that briefing. Trump team has been playing defense based on the stuff in that report, (Cohen and Pee Pee) trying to discredit it. DNI has caught Trump team in their lie AND distanced IC's findings from Buzzfeed's dump.

Clapper just burned Trump team, basically.
 
No Do Over. At a minimum if action was taken it would be President Pence. However if the rabbit hole revealed Pence was well aware and in on it then it could become President Ryan

If there was communication between Trump's Campaign and Russia, Pence gets hit. He was a part of the campaign.

However, if the entirity of Trump's campaign side is convicted of Treason, I can see a very strong case being made for a re-election happening. Because with this election, America will have not only had foreign interference within the Democratic Process, but also an unprecedented loss of the EC while winning the Popular Vote.

It's not just the interference, it's not just the Treason, it's not just the Popular Vote being 2+ Million for the loser, etc. All this together is a shistorm of Constitutional Crisis, and it would help America hopefully move past it.

For lack of a better way, it lets Republicans move on from Trump(Because Pence/Ryan would be viewed as illegitimate heirs by the Trumpettes) while losing virtually nothing, gives them time to try and actually develop a way to "fix" the ACA, and allows for the establishment who were against Trump(McCain,Graham,Rubio,etc) to take back some semblance of Control over the party.
 

zethren

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Clapper just confirmed this document was in fact not 4chan's work, and that it was in fact shown to Trump by the IC as part of the briefing involving his connections to Russia. This story isn't going anywhere.

I agree, if anything it reaffirms that this is real and that the contents of the doc should be investigated.
 
"Anyone who said you shouldn't vote for Hillary Clinton because of GOLDMAN SACHS! Yeah, you got suckered." -- Rachel Maddow (pointing to the fact Trump has now put a whopping 5 Goldman Sachs people in his administration)

They didn't get suckered, they just don't care. Donald Trump's cult of personality (and blatant pandering to racist elements) were and are enough to get people to wholesale ignore his conflicts of interests, hypocrisy, and everything else.
 

PKrockin

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Trump's team was telling Fox 2 hours ago they were never briefed on this. Now DNI says they did.
They probably were not briefed on it orally, but it was in the report. In these briefings apparently you first read the report, then the intelligence officials are there for you mostly to ask for clarification or direct them to gather more information on certain topics. Wouldn't be surprised if Trump simply never read to the end of the report.
 

Ollie Pooch

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They probably were not briefed on it orally, but it was in the report. In these briefings apparently you first read the report, then the intelligence officials are there for you mostly to ask for clarification or direct them to gather more information on certain topics. Wouldn't be surprised if Trump simply never read to the end of the report.
Earlier they were claiming he never received it and was only briefed orally (or not even briefed at all according to Conway) They can't even get their story straight now.
 
They didn't get suckered, they just don't care. Donald Trump's cult of personality (and blatant pandering to racist elements) were and are enough to get people to wholesale ignore his conflicts of interests, hypocrisy, and everything else.
Bernie Bros who voted for Trump were fooled though
 

Ac30

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Kellyanne Conway just retweeted the statement, even though they don't claim it's fake? She claimed fake news like an hour ago
 

Magwik

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If there was communication between Trump's Campaign and Russia, Pence gets hit. He was a part of the campaign.

However, if the entirity of Trump's campaign side is convicted of Treason, I can see a very strong case being made for a re-election happening. Because with this election, America will have not only had foreign interference within the Democratic Process, but also an unprecedented loss of the EC while winning the Popular Vote.

It's not just the interference, it's not just the Treason, it's not just the Popular Vote being 2+ Million for the loser, etc. All this together is a shistorm of Constitutional Crisis, and it would help America hopefully move past it.

For lack of a better way, it lets Republicans move on from Trump(Because Pence/Ryan would be viewed as illegitimate heirs by the Trumpettes) while losing virtually nothing, gives them time to try and actually develop a way to "fix" the ACA, and allows for the establishment who were against Trump(McCain,Graham,Rubio,etc) to take back some semblance of Control over the party.

I honestly believe Republicans and so many are attempting to sweep this under the rug specifically out of fear of what happens next. It's not for their party as much as it is as there being absolutely no principle of what we do, while also any action will absolutely tear up the country and destroy the economy.
 

Boke1879

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Kellyanne Conway just retweeted the statement, even though they don't claim it's fake? She claimed fake news like an hour ago

They'll try to spin it as such, but nothing has been debunked and it's not going away.

Clapper is just essentially saying he's sorry this got leaked out.
 

ZOONAMI

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The only thing that might say IC has already reached a consensus on this, is that Clapper's statement says that they did not use the dossier to reach their own conclusions. As if they had already made their conclusions.

Then the last sentence that the IC is ready to serve his administration isn't exactly reassuring that they have come to any damming conclusions.

I suppose that may just be polite language designed to not cause widespread trump supporter panic that perhaps trump is done for, at least not until they are ready to release more information.
 

Vixdean

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If there was communication between Trump's Campaign and Russia, Pence gets hit. He was a part of the campaign.

However, if the entirity of Trump's campaign side is convicted of Treason, I can see a very strong case being made for a re-election happening. Because with this election, America will have not only had foreign interference within the Democratic Process, but also an unprecedented loss of the EC while winning the Popular Vote.

It's not just the interference, it's not just the Treason, it's not just the Popular Vote being 2+ Million for the loser, etc. All this together is a shistorm of Constitutional Crisis, and it would help America hopefully move past it.

For lack of a better way, it lets Republicans move on from Trump(Because Pence/Ryan would be viewed as illegitimate heirs by the Trumpettes) while losing virtually nothing, gives them time to try and actually develop a way to "fix" the ACA, and allows for the establishment who were against Trump(McCain,Graham,Rubio,etc) to take back some semblance of Control over the party.

This will literally never happen. There is no legal precedent or guidance for a Presidential re-election. Paul Ryan would be President.
 

RDreamer

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Will something really come out of this, or will just be trivia in a couple of years?

No one knows for sure, but the guy that made the dossier seems very credible and the fact that he's now in hiding from the Russians after his name got out there is kinda big.
 

Maximo

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The feeling everytime someone new jumps into the thread with "similar links"

*Why won't it read?*
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Oh wow.

That last one.

Broly I know you say stupid shit sometimes but, come on man.

You didn't even just think that, you thought that would be a good tweet. And didn't delete it.

I'm so embarrassed for you.
 
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