Why do people keep coming up with out of the box ideas just so they can assume the best of Trump? What has that man done that you don't assume he is a living turd capable of these things? I mean yeah I am biased so I'm more quick to believe it but I also have eyes and ears and know all the things he has done and has been accused of. It's adding up. The smoke is smothering me at this point.
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Reports on Russian connections to Trump [Summaries in OP] #GoldenShowers
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Why do people keep coming up with out of the box ideas just so they can assume the best of Trump? What has that man done that you don't assume he is a living turd capable of these things? I mean yeah I am biased so I'm more quick to believe it but I also have eyes and ears and know all the things he has done and has been accused of. It's adding up. The smoke is smothering me at this point.
I don't think this is all a reflection of Russia so much as a reflection of us and our country right now. Russia wanted to sow discord, but I doubt they really thought Trump would get elected. They were probably WTFing even more than we were this whole time.
7DollarHagane
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I'm looking at it from a Russia's goals standpoint.
Man CNN sees the writing on the wall with how they've been covering all this.
Trump controlling the executive branch is the step that comes before journalists and press members being detained and escorted away. All while his base cheers on how they're finally getting rid of fake news and read the Trump approved Brietbart stories on how we're doing what should have been done long ago for the good of the nation.
Trump controlling the executive branch is the step that comes before journalists and press members being detained and escorted away. All while his base cheers on how they're finally getting rid of fake news and read the Trump approved Brietbart stories on how we're doing what should have been done long ago for the good of the nation.
Some people, probably the people that aren't as familiar with him, want to believe he can't possibly be this big an asshole. Not everyone knows about his exploits, like:
Which they got from Trump himself. He then announced his divorce in the paper, but made it sound like either she (or her friends) were the source. Dude's been a grade-a scumbag his whole life.
godofcookery
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He says they had a briefing, but the DNI wasn't specific about what they briefed him on, the statement is designed to be read in many ways. The fact that the statement and phone call was made is important, but the statement is not really saying that he was briefed on this document specifically. Lord knows what the actual conversation was like tonight.
Intheflorsh
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It verifies CNN report that trump was briefed on the stuff buzzfeed posted.
That's all
Vicetrailia
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Well if the U.S. centered their global strategy in the same light, we could wreck havok.
But also the U.S. makes itself vulnerable.
smokeymicpot
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I'm amazed people think anything will come of this.
The government must have known Trumps other shady behavior for years, and the public didn't give a shit about it. They still voted for him after the predator scandal.
His cronies and rich friends will handwave and bail him out of everything he ever gets accused of. Justice doesn't win in this timeline.
The government must have known Trumps other shady behavior for years, and the public didn't give a shit about it. They still voted for him after the predator scandal.
His cronies and rich friends will handwave and bail him out of everything he ever gets accused of. Justice doesn't win in this timeline.
Ok, I get it. I guess I thought the CNN report was already confirmed. So now it's confirmed confirmed.
Yes.
Nothing in the Buzzfeed account has been verified yet. What was verified is that Trump was briefed on the dossier (and his surrogates have retweeted Clapper's statement), when at his press conference he said he hadn't. So we have direct, on-camera proof of Trump lying.
The issue is not whether the 35 page report is true, as that as not been determined by anyone yet. The issue was Trump and his surrogates denying that he had been briefed by the IC including this report, but now Clapper has stated he was briefed, so Trump and his surrogates have been caught directly in a lie.
Also, that they briefed Obama and Trump with this report means that it is being considered at least credible right now. If it was considered nonsense by the IC, they wouldn't include it in a briefing.
It doesn't verify the details of the Buzzfeed story. It just means that the CIA is actively looking into it and that Trump lied about not being briefed on it.
Edit: beaten like a half dozen times
Already Torn
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Kellyanne Conway. King "The Islamists have infiltrated World Governments" Broly came here convinced the statement proved that the reports were nothing, so maybe she though the same.
Alright fair enough. But it seems to me, that whether nor not Trump did do something illegal, Russia won here. But with Trump having to do their bidding who knows what kind of information he could leak to them which would be invaluable.
UberTag
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Clearly the Director of National Intelligence is invested in spreading fake news and is part of the witch hunt. Russia will back the Donald up on this.
There are a bunch of yahoos on the Internet who didn't know his name until now. Yahoos with guns. I know I wouldn't be sleeping easily even if everyone in the intelligence and media communities have been familiar with Steele's involvement for quite some time now.
It basically just confirms what CNN initially reported on.
The contents of the document are being investigated.
Ryzaki009
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Seriously. I'm surprised that site is even still around.
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You dont know what youre talking about.
The publics opinion doesnt matter, his rich friends dont matter, if some of this stuff is proven its treason.
The bold is going to send everyone into overdrive. Tomorrow is going to be a feeding frenzy.
Thanks, clears things up.
Trumpites on Twitter are going insane calling it all lies and that Clapper didn't confirm anything and yadda yadda yadda
To be fair the content of the BuzzFeed leak wasn't confirmed, just where that document came from.
Oops. Way past my bed time.
They hated it, but after a few months of broaching the topic once in a while and explaining that healthcare was cheaper for them now than it was before (their insurance was more expensive than it is now) and they began to begrudgingly appreciate it. Although most of them now want a single payer system, albeit without,"all those illegals."
I've got more steady work to do.
Aaronology
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Hyper-projection is currently an extremely popular tactic among the alt-right. I am not sure if this is because Trump successfully employed it during the election campaign or if he was himself was schooled in its use by his handlers who are now further instructing their followers in how to redirect a discussion in their favor. Either way, we should all get use to seeing it and other forms of gaslighting. I'm currently embroiled in a discussion elsewhere and watching a gang of alt-right trolls derail a topic by shouting down minorities and accusing them of being bigots, racists and xenophobes.
No ____, no ____, you're the ____!
As 2017 progresses it will be imperative for the Left to collectively learn how to counter this sort of behavior.
hipsterpants
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4 years of the Presidency vs. CNN. What a time to be alive.
Oh, he's a former agent. Well, still shitty to say his name. Specially if it's for something as big as this.
Thanks for the information, guys.
Shogmaster
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That woman is not smart nor good at her job she is just obtuse and belligerent like Trump.
Of course they are, they're jumping on the fake news train. It's dangerous and awful, but they might have to come to grips with their man having committed treason.
And having been peed on.
Eh. If his surrogates are able to rein him in and keep him on message, all he has to say is "oh yeah, they did brief me, whoops" and move onwards. That'll be enough of a mea culpa to most people that they won't care anymore.
Chances of that happening are 50/50 right now in my book.
KernelPanic
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https://twitter.com/20committee/status/819397929437921281
John Schindler seems to think this is the tip of the iceberg and there's a lot more.
He seems to be treating this like a leak from Russia. Some BS and some truth which the US knows.
nintendoman58
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Nothing that you listed matters at all in this scenario right now.
So? There's a mountain of evidences against him for sexual assault, tax evasion/fraud, conflicts of interest, defamation/libel, nepotism, all kinds of shit. He's never served prison time for any of it and he has the best lawyers. And the government is even more corrupt from the inside with his cronies than ever before.
This is actually true.
Clapper letter does not confirm what exactly was covered at Friday's briefing.
But it does confirm that IC has at least briefed Trump on the dossier as of today, and seems to confirm that they are looking into the dossier and it's allegations.
It really doesn't completely vindicate CNN's original reporting that Trump was briefed on the 2 page synopsis last Friday. Doesn't debunk CNN's reporting either though.
I would assume a real killer would not be some lurid sex tape, but more mundane yet more dangerous comprising financial deals and arrangements.
jack_package_200
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I really hope their are more Trump jokes at the Oscars. Hopefully Chris Rock makes references to golden showers and being blackmailed by the Kremlin. It'll drive dipshit Donald nuts.
smokeandmirrors
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Yeah the actual details of the report won't be verified for a while, if ever. The story of the evening is that Trump and co. are already directly lying about it, which throws up its own set of red flags.
lowhighkang_LHK
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So then why would you do all this and try to compromise such an unlikely candidate. Wouldn't you try to go after somebody more in a position to reasonably win, other than a Donald Trump from 2011? Talk about winning the lottery...
I mean, as it is the BuzzFeed docs were saying he farmed out the DNC hack to the Russians. Essentially Watergate 2.0. How the hell does it get worse than the thing that took Nixon down, only worse?
The key here is that none of that is treason.
Yeah because people on 4chan and Reddit are so credible and trustworthy.
Felix Lighter
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