Brain is wired to 4chan equals filth so any mention of it gets them high and clouds their judgement or the likely answer, the tidbits are flooded in social media and people believe anything.
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Reports on Russian connections to Trump [Summaries in OP] #GoldenShowers
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Brain is wired to 4chan equals filth so any mention of it gets them high and clouds their judgement or the likely answer, the tidbits are flooded in social media and people believe anything.
It's definitely interesting.
Karsticles
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I think we could know if this all goes where it's heading.
When the IC takes it seriously enough to debrief the President, President-Elect, and the Senate on its contents, it's worthwhile for the rest of to take the claims seriously as well.
Pai Pai Master
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They've gone full comerade mode in the last 24-48 hours, it's crazy
iRAWRasaurus
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cartographer
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I'm getting flashbacks to lurking on GG threads and seeing a different account pop up with the same "but have you heard this?" post with some regularity.
It's more like people are getting trolled by 4chan right now.
See, I'm not smart enough to think of that obviously easy way to do it. Damn I suck at trolling.
Already Torn
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I wonder how long it'll be until Trump starts claiming it was from 4chan?
sugarhigh4242
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Via your NYT link:
Via the buzzfeed release:
Sorry I don't know what I'm talking about. Maybe you could explain what "confidential" and "top secret" mean, since I don't know.
Now I'm definitely exercising caution regarding these allegations and would recommend others do the same, but most of the conversation you are referring to is likely the 4chan/reddit BS regarding how they made this document up and trolled the media.
You really need to keep to legitimate news sources on these issues, not twitter.
Raven117
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It comes down to a few questions really...the rest is political theater.
(1) In what context did the IC brief the President on this 35 page document (with Clapper saying that he did brief the President on it, verbally, then we can put to bed the question of whether it was just shoved in the back of a binder).
- Was the context an example of "disinformation"
- Was the context an example of saying...hey...we dont know if this is true, but someone we have known to be credible in the past gave it to us?
- Was the context, simply...Hey Trump, this is out there and alot of the news organizations have it.. it may be a troll, it may not, but its out there. Just wanted to let ya know.
(2) What is the IC going to do to corroborate the 35 page memo? What will be Trump's instruction? This really is the most important question. What is the IC going to do to investigate the accuracy AND authenticity of this document.
Until then...we are discussing circumstantial support for either of those two questions.
Sub-question to be answered, though not as critical, but still important, is who told the press that this memo was given to Trump and Obama? That's what kicked this whole thing off..
(1) In what context did the IC brief the President on this 35 page document (with Clapper saying that he did brief the President on it, verbally, then we can put to bed the question of whether it was just shoved in the back of a binder).
- Was the context an example of "disinformation"
- Was the context an example of saying...hey...we dont know if this is true, but someone we have known to be credible in the past gave it to us?
- Was the context, simply...Hey Trump, this is out there and alot of the news organizations have it.. it may be a troll, it may not, but its out there. Just wanted to let ya know.
(2) What is the IC going to do to corroborate the 35 page memo? What will be Trump's instruction? This really is the most important question. What is the IC going to do to investigate the accuracy AND authenticity of this document.
Until then...we are discussing circumstantial support for either of those two questions.
Sub-question to be answered, though not as critical, but still important, is who told the press that this memo was given to Trump and Obama? That's what kicked this whole thing off..
yeah, I won't beat myself up too much then.
sugarhigh4242
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I never left, friendo.
Just curious. You have said in the past that you hate Trump and find the entire Republican party repulsive. So shy are you so adamant in defending that this report is false? I'm just curious what your motivations are here? I mean it's not because you think people are out to get Trump because you shouldn't care. Is it because you are offended by what you perceive as bad journalism?
You spent a lot of time in this thread making sure we all know we are fools for believing this report. So why?
cartographer
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Don't blow my cover, comrade.
Via your NYT link:
Via the buzzfeed release:
Sorry I don't know what I'm talking about. Maybe you could explain what "confidential" and "top secret" mean, since I don't know.
The top secret briefing provided to Obama and Trump contained information from Steele's report as well as reporting from other intelligence sources. It is not Steele's original, unclassified report which is what Buzzfeed published.
it's as if a veil was removed from in front of my eyes...
Man, maybe they really were cultivating him for 5 years prior. This interview alludes to that, and it would make sense on how Trump was able to cause such an uprising. A lot of it's just shit latching on to shit, but he could have been getting plans and encouragement on how to orchestrate an uprising and put himself in power from Putin for years. Would explain how his campaign seemingly came put of nowhere and gained huge success.
No tovarich, I'm with you! I swear to Mother Russia.
IlGialloMondadori
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Good disinfo, comrade! *passes vodka*
Via your NYT link:
Via the buzzfeed release:
Sorry I don't know what I'm talking about. Maybe you could explain what "confidential" and "top secret" mean, since I don't know.
the report Trump saw in its entirety was classified. The thing buzzfeed published which was summarised in the classified report isn't. It came from a third-party not from the US or any intelligence agency.
ClosingADoor
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The Buzzfeed document and the actual intelligence report shown to Trump, Obama and other high level officials are not the same document.Via your NYT link:
Via the buzzfeed release:
Sorry I don't know what I'm talking about. Maybe you could explain what "confidential" and "top secret" mean, since I don't know.
Eh, you just need two browsers.
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We arent even sure they are rhe same document, but:Via your NYT link:
Via the buzzfeed release:
Sorry I don't know what I'm talking about. Maybe you could explain what "confidential" and "top secret" mean, since I don't know.
Notice the report itself only says 'Confidential source', which means that the source of the report is confidential, not the report itself.
I'm going to make a prediction: If there will be a smoking gun that leads to impeachment, it's going to be money going from Russia directly to his campaign.
Just stop talking to sugarhigh.
Infinite Stars
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Hell, you can even do it on the same computer with an Incognito Browser.
(I'm assuming this works, it's worked on other forums where I had to switch accounts for moderation purposes)
Already Torn
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But that's an asset
Should work; also just using a different browser.
With chrome, i.e., edge and Firefox installed plus their respective incognito/inprivate modes you can log in to eight accounts at once!
pedrothelion
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All that says is that the addendum/ summary of his 35 page report was part of a classified briefing. The actual 35 page report isn't classified as it done by a private citizen and has been disseminated to other private citizens prior to it's leak on buzzfeed.Via your NYT link:
Via the buzzfeed release:
Sorry I don't know what I'm talking about. Maybe you could explain what "confidential" and "top secret" mean, since I don't know.
It is disheartening to see him still around. There needs to be zero tolerance for russian shills.
I am so sick of how they fuck up every topic. The hell are the mods waiting for.
Lol..."people are saying..."
One thing to point out as well is that the whole #goldenshower thing is pretty much a non issue compared to the other allegations of Trump potentially working directly with or at least having contact with the Russians. I know it makes for a good joke but I feel like lots of people just read about golden showers, laugh historically, and think that's the whole issue.
This thing, if true, goes far deeper than that.
This thing, if true, goes far deeper than that.
Nah, you'd need two browsers with different VPN settings in order to have different IP addresses.
So how legit is all this. I've gotten most of my news lately from just browsing on here, since I deleted everything related to politics in my life after the election. Can someone impartial here let me know how legit any of this is? What are the consequences if it is all real?
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I dont know if anyone really is impartial, but here is one thing:
There will be senate meetings.
i think being able to "revel" in both is reasonable as well.
You can still log in, but you'd be easy to catch.
iRAWRasaurus
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Gotta use the troll budget somehow.
Already Torn
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The guy who brought down FIFA is the main source, major intelligence agencies and Washington officials have been passing around and investigating this stuff for months, Trump was briefed on it on Friday and adamantly lied that he never was.
If it's all real it's for sure treason, but you obviously need some good proof for that.
ClosingADoor
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If all of it is real, Trump is being black mailed by Russia. And he and his team should be removed right away and tried for treason.
But we don't know at the moment if all of it is real, if parts are or if it is all bullshit. But multiple agencies are taking it seriously and at the very least Trump has some very suspicious ties to Russia. But talk about that has been going around for over a year already and nothing came of it.
don't forget the 7 proxies
This is really damning. It's incredible.
Not gonna lie, man. It's not really possible to be impartial in this. Objectively speaking, this will be one of, if not THE worst political scandals to rock the nation.
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