iRAWRasaurus
Banned
School
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Reports on Russian connections to Trump [Summaries in OP] #GoldenShowers
- Thread starter chadskin
- Start date
- Status
School
Abstrusity
Member
Because most people think they won't be affected, and the ones that definitely would are already seen as less than people by a plurality of the country. The ones most affected then, would also have to fight the tide of disinformation and confirmation biases.
So if people are afraid that it'll be difficult, AND they'll be alone, they won't show up. There will eventually be a fever pitch in discontent and we'll have riots.
wesleyshark
Banned
Trump doing something smart is not in his wheelhouse
The issue is that everything so far is simply circumstantial evidence (granted, an overwhelming fuckton of it), and a questionable lie to the press about not being informed of the dossier.
People are waiting for something concrete to drop and are afraid of jumping the gun before the smoking gun.
sugarhigh4242
Banned
Americans are in the streets, just not liberals
https://www.socialistalternative.or...protests-24-hours-40000-people-answered-call/
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
This. Which is why people need to stop giving him credit for a plan. This could have been diffused at least a dozen times by a half-intelligent politician. Instead he has escalated it at every turn not of choice but by sheer stupidity.
No shit, atleast come into power and purge the IC first before revealing to the world that you are a puppet.
He was going to clean everything up once in charge.
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
Yup. I love Obama, but if he was even remotely this dirty, I'd be long done with him.
Forgotten_Taco
Member
Odd? Not very smart? Light treason.
How much power will he have?
Exactly, why is he so brazen? Usually, people that commit treason are more careful.
The confidence in Trump's camp is suprisingly high.
mehrmantrout
Member
I'd say its pretty much certain he won't last a full term but, what this week has shown if you come at him it best be watertight. All the crumbs are there it just needs someone to piece it all together which unfortunately will take time
It'll be like Capone something out of left field will nail him
It'll be like Capone something out of left field will nail him
KernelPanic
Member
Flynn supports crazy conspiracy theories, shared classified info and Installed a private internet connection installed in his office all of which he got busted on.
Seems normal for him to do something like call Russia when such communications are monitored.
Seems normal for him to do something like call Russia when such communications are monitored.
Yet, it would have probably dissipated if he hadn't gone bugfuck insane at the "Intelligence Community."
BannedEpisode
Member
Fuck outta here with that. Minnesota has more Fortune 500s than any other state.
Edit: Ignore this post I'm wrong. Got bitchy and misremembered some stats.
Ace Harding
Member
Because there's no evidence of anything yet. I am confident that things are being investigated and that if hard evidence of any of this stuff exists it will be made public. Then we don't need to take to the streets.
If this were being ignored instead of being on the front page of every paper and talked about 24/7 on TV, then I might be on the streets.
But there's a process for this stuff. We can't just protest and have him barred from the Presidency immediately. All that would do is rile up his base, which we definitely do not need.
ebullientprism
Member
Seriously. If he was smarter he would have diffused it. If he had a slightly thicker skin he could have just ignored it.
He is just the right amount of stupid and thin skinned.
wesleyshark
Banned
benicillin
Banned
Unless something has changed since 2015 I'm pretty sure NY, CA and TX are still at the top of that list.
Some do protest, but a lot of times they are dispersed quickly by the police and then the media latches on and tells the people to get over it and get back to work.
The fact that Trump keeps spewing "Russia says Russia says Russia says" nonsense just lends more fuel to him being in their pocket. Of course Russia is going to just happily come out and say they own you and your family. They'll deny it.
When you think about it though, the IC didn't really break this story.
If you follow any journalists on Twitter, you knew about this document for months. They've been subtweeting it for a while. It's the "Oppo" Poli-GAF was waiting to drop.
But nobody could verify any of the contents, and nobody wanted to be the first to release it.
All it took was a major news source (CNN) openly acknowledging its existence to open the floodgates. That's not the IC.
If only all this had happened before Nov 8.
...maybe any other state not named California, New York, Texas, Illinois, Ohio, Virginia, New Jersey, or Pennsylvania.
http://www.ceo.com/entrepreneurial_...g-states-with-the-most-fortune-500-companies/
BronsonLee
Member
TAKE THAT MINNESOTA
People have to work and at this point protesting won't accomplish anything.
It kind of hinges on the IC saying yes trump is compromised.
Then people will be in the streets. But still not during working hours really.
Most people can't just tell their boss, hey boss I'm gonna go protest today. Cool? K thx bye.
And if it ends up that none of this is able to be corroborated then everyone protesting just look like a bunch of wackos.
Is there any point?
To be fair, this looks like it's being investigated pretty well and not swept under the carpet.
If there is truth / evidence behind it, Trump is fucked and taking to the streets isn't going to make him more fucked.
If there is no truth / evidence behind it, then people shouting / protesting it just seem like the same lot shouting about Obama's birth certificate or Hillary's email's, or pizzagate etc etc
GutsOfThor
Member
After next Friday, this whole thing will disappear rather quickly I assume?
Assange is not a US citizen, a very important prerequisite for treason.
China will kick Russian ass.
The only thing Russia has going are nukes and gas. Everyone switch to clean energy will make them ever poorer.
China won't go easy on Russia as Europe is doin. Good luck Vlad indeed.
I'm sorry for Russians, they will suffer from this sooner or later.
Koreans made it happen. Americans can do it too.
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
I want to say there was a dude who was leaking stuff to Israel in the news in the early 2000s.
smokeandmirrors
Banned
Just need a good old fashioned general strike to protest
Haha, oops, well regardless, Assange is worried about US extradition, and he's not been formally charged is what I was remembering. I was conflating some things obviously.
Why would you assume that? In all likelihood, the investigation will be on going for many months whether something comes of it or not. I dont see the IC holding back to wait to torpedo or save trump for a special date
To be fair I think in the context of this election MN (which went for Clinton) isn't really included in the rust belt shorthand.
jakonovski
Member
A general strike cannot happen because American society has 100% tied a person's value as a human being to having a job and being a good worker.
Yeah MN isn't really rust belt.
BannedEpisode
Member
My bad, it's the Twin Cities that have the most Fortune 500s of any metro area. Not that state. (Or it's some other qualifier, I dunno)
Edit: ignore this post I'm wrong.
Not to mention even on places like Gaf many otherwise left people have drank the anti-union kool-aid.
BannedEpisode
Member
I'm just mentally handicapped then. I don't know where I picked that up.
He did say Fortune 500's not 1000's though. Not saying he's right, I have no clue honestly.
jakonovski
Member
Yah, anti-union nonsense is on the same continuum as Trump support. Only lower on the sensational scale and also more abstract.
Well, that doesn't prove anything as Fortune 500 /= Fortune 1000.
tedrotheredro
Member
It has the most Fortune 500's of any metro area per capita, not absolute. Not trying to bring down Minneapolis though, it's a cool city.
This makes sense.
BannedEpisode
Member
It's fine I was flat out wrong in my original statement.
I was just pissy because Minnesota always gets lumped into cow country republican Midwest.
- Status
Similar threads
- Locked
- Locked