Resident Evil Nostalgia Thread
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RE2 on GameCube is supposed to be the most superior version, correct? It has all the N64/DC extras such as EX files and Extreme Battle Mode included in it?
Has there ever been an explanation why RE
arkside Chronicles Claire looks way, waay older thatn she did in RE2 (and CVX and REegeneration movie), or why she's now sporting blue jean shorts alongside her pink denim jacket (the combination of both looks rediculous by the way).
Did RE:Umbrella Chronicles or REarkside Chronicles change/add anything to the previously established RE story? Are they even considered cannon?
Has there ever been an explanation why RE
arkside Chronicles Claire looks way, waay older thatn she did in RE2 (and CVX and REegeneration movie), or why she's now sporting blue jean shorts alongside her pink denim jacket (the combination of both looks rediculous by the way).Did RE:Umbrella Chronicles or RE
arkside Chronicles change/add anything to the previously established RE story? Are they even considered cannon?Listen to my history of resident evil 1,
I found out about it inside magazines, so i was hyped about it, the dark setting, the enemies, and the best part is that magazines in the past did not have clear images, so the game pics were all dark and blurry which added to the suspence,
So i decided to buy a PS1, by the way i am Lebanese, i was 17 at the time,, PS1 were in the 500 $ in my country,,, i didnt bother, i saved money for almost 1 year in order to buy a PS1 with resident evil, this game was my system seller,,,, so i bought a PS1 against my parent's will (500 $ is too much for a games console to them),,, and hurried to my house to try it, i connected the PS1 to my TV, and to my surprise it did not work , the image was not showing properly, the sound was ok but no image, i tried it on my other TV but no luck either,,, i though that the console was broken so i replaced it even though the buyer resisted first,, then i tried another one, same result,,,,,, i got super ultra mega angry,,, and i was forced to return the console again and i reclaimed my money,, the problem was that PAL consoles did not work on NTSC TVs,,, terribledark ages
So i was sad, then i knew that it released on the PC, so i was soooooooo happy to finally be able to play it, so i rushed and bought it, and returned home, i installed it, and to my super ultra mega disappointment, this game required a 3DFX card, noooooooooooooo,,, dreams shattered,,,, but since i had the funds (500 $ in the pocket),,, i was forced to buy a 3DFX VOODOO RUSH (if anyone remember those),,,,, and got home installed the card, and started the game, and the rest is history,,, i was soooooooooo happy to finally play my dream game, until i walked into that corridor with the dog and i said to myself: why did i put myself into this shit ?
And i became a resident evil Super fan,,,, my only grip with the main series is that they called Resident evil 5 "Resident evil 5", the game was ultra fun and great and i am currently replaying it in hard mode, but it was not resident evil, a more suitable name would be "Resident evil coop" or "Resident Evil: Big dudes",, and thats why i am somehow upset about RE6, they seem to have followed the same path of 5, i want an HD classic resident evil with prerendered backgrounds,, please capcom give us REmake HD.
I found out about it inside magazines, so i was hyped about it, the dark setting, the enemies, and the best part is that magazines in the past did not have clear images, so the game pics were all dark and blurry which added to the suspence,
So i decided to buy a PS1, by the way i am Lebanese, i was 17 at the time,, PS1 were in the 500 $ in my country,,, i didnt bother, i saved money for almost 1 year in order to buy a PS1 with resident evil, this game was my system seller,,,, so i bought a PS1 against my parent's will (500 $ is too much for a games console to them),,, and hurried to my house to try it, i connected the PS1 to my TV, and to my surprise it did not work , the image was not showing properly, the sound was ok but no image, i tried it on my other TV but no luck either,,, i though that the console was broken so i replaced it even though the buyer resisted first,, then i tried another one, same result,,,,,, i got super ultra mega angry,,, and i was forced to return the console again and i reclaimed my money,, the problem was that PAL consoles did not work on NTSC TVs,,, terribledark ages
So i was sad, then i knew that it released on the PC, so i was soooooooo happy to finally be able to play it, so i rushed and bought it, and returned home, i installed it, and to my super ultra mega disappointment, this game required a 3DFX card, noooooooooooooo,,, dreams shattered,,,, but since i had the funds (500 $ in the pocket),,, i was forced to buy a 3DFX VOODOO RUSH (if anyone remember those),,,,, and got home installed the card, and started the game, and the rest is history,,, i was soooooooooo happy to finally play my dream game, until i walked into that corridor with the dog and i said to myself: why did i put myself into this shit
?And i became a resident evil Super fan,,,, my only grip with the main series is that they called Resident evil 5 "Resident evil 5", the game was ultra fun and great and i am currently replaying it in hard mode, but it was not resident evil, a more suitable name would be "Resident evil coop" or "Resident Evil: Big dudes",, and thats why i am somehow upset about RE6, they seem to have followed the same path of 5, i want an HD classic resident evil with prerendered backgrounds,, please capcom give us REmake HD.
Anticitizen One
Banned
They need to release RE remake in HD. I can play that game all day long.
My favourite is definatly RE 2 but the first time I really got scared in a video game was in the hallway scene in the first game damn dog.
Anyway I am currently playing Resident Evil Revelations which is quite good actually a nice throwback to the old days of survival horror.
And who knows RE 6 might good right ?..... ..... RIGHT ???
Anyway I am currently playing Resident Evil Revelations which is quite good actually a nice throwback to the old days of survival horror.
And who knows RE 6 might good right ?..... ..... RIGHT ???
I never beat 2 or 3. My friend had the PS and I had the N64. But I loved RE1, REm, and RE0. (I really miss my GCN now, almost kept it just for RE). RE4 was fun, but eh. And RE5 was similar. I want zombies..
Playing on GCN, even as an adult got me tense in the dark, alone. And dat saveroom music..
Playing on GCN, even as an adult got me tense in the dark, alone. And dat saveroom music..
The Praiseworthy
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Wow....
Dude, what a story!!
What a suffering
But glad you got a happy ending " wo la3abtha bel a7'eir "
Wow....
Dude, what a story!!
What a suffering
But glad you got a happy ending " wo la3abtha bel a7'eir "
"sheyef ????" playing it was a horror story in itself
Resident Evil is an acquired taste... and I haven't acquired it so far. I've played through RE4, RE5, The Umbrella Chronicles and Darkside Chronicles, all good fun, but all of my attempts to get into REMake or RE2 have failed so far. One time I got pretty far into REMake (I think), but got so annoyed at having no ammo whatsoever and looking for an ink ribbon to at least save my progress that I haven't played it ever since. Next to the Metal Gear Solid series this has to be the series that I want to like so much, I disliked the Metroid Prime series too until I 'got it' and then it became my favorite IP. I'm thinking about buying RE Revelations because people say it's a good mix between old and new RE style, any suggestions or comments?
Spieler Eins
Member
I recently replayed the REmake, I think last year or so. For the first time with Chris. And it's still the scariest of them all. Sure, the dogs jumping through the window won't get you anymore, but it's probably the only title that goes beyond jump scares throughout. (Still love the atmosphere of most other entries though)
Lisa Trevor in the caverns... holy shit
In the laboratory there was also a crimson head that I didn't hear respawning, which had my heart standing still for a second when it came out of the shadows, haha.
It really holds up well in general too. Hard to believe it's 10 years old, dam
Excluding the save room themes, the old entries had great OSTs in general.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQPksaD8p7Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orHrAEU-W84
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFn4m8gBfk8
REmake>2>CVX>Zero>3
Although I hate the mid-game tyrant in CVX. That crap often was a game breaker for me... But the lack of item boxes in Ø was probably the bigger annoyance.
First game I'll get, whenever I buy a 3DS.
Lisa Trevor in the caverns... holy shit
In the laboratory there was also a crimson head that I didn't hear respawning, which had my heart standing still for a second when it came out of the shadows, haha.It really holds up well in general too. Hard to believe it's 10 years old, dam
Excluding the save room themes, the old entries had great OSTs in general.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQPksaD8p7Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orHrAEU-W84
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFn4m8gBfk8
REmake>2>CVX>Zero>3
Although I hate the mid-game tyrant in CVX. That crap often was a game breaker for me... But the lack of item boxes in Ø was probably the bigger annoyance.
Revelations would be a very good choice imo. It still plays like RE 4/5 sans the frequent ammo drops. Plus, autosaveYou can't go wrong with Revelations.
First game I'll get, whenever I buy a 3DS.
Mr. Pointy
Member
RE2 was the one I first bought, which I loved to death. But I didn't check out any of the others until RE4 for GC. I actually bought a secondhand GC 2004 for that game. That got me completely back into the series and I ended up getting REmake and RE0. I've gone through the rest of the series in time.
The problem is you played the easy games first and then headed to the hard ones,,,, Resident Evil 1-2-CVX and to some degree 3 were Survival Horror games, this means that every bullet counts, every ink ribbon counts, saving is a survival horror in itself, saving bullets and green herbs was vital for finishing future encounters, THats survial horror to me, not the auto-save 1000000000 bullets bullshit, 4-5 were pure action games (especially 5)
But i understand the anger of someone trying to play the first games,,, they were hard and they were supposed to be hard because they were SURVIVAL HORROR games. Dont try to play them like action games, you will be disappointed.
Synth_floyd
Banned
These are the REAL Chris, Jill and Weskers.
...and Barry too.
They should've done live action FMVs for all the games.
Spieler Eins
Member
No shame playing the REmake on easy, if you're new into it. Though even then, you can't just shoot every enemy you run into and save five times an hour.
fabricated backlash
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It was the only reason I got a Dreamcast back then. Code Veronica made all my friends back then salivate like crazy. It was not only the best looking RE game but it also was such a massive improvement over RE 2 and 3 in terms of controls, looks and playability, it was crazy.
Sure in hindsight some of the games flaws stand out like a sore thumb (the slow pacing and backtracking) but back then Code Veronica truly was a generational leap that I've only ever seen again with Dead Rising on the 360.
To be honest, the old Resident Evil games are only special to those who've experienced them back then. The terribad controls and the ridiculous puzzles are truly outdated.
But for those who've played the games back then, there was simply nothing that compared.
Aside from the fact that 3D controls were still in their infancy, and Super Mario 64 was basically the only game getting them right, even by todays standards.
I actually started with RE2 on my friends PS1, and later bought it for the N64 (one of the most impressive ports to this day)
I would probably buy an HD collection of all the RE games (WiiU could actually have all of them including Zero and REmake) but I'm currently happy with having the Gamecube and Wii Versions whenever it itches me to play them again.
No they are simply shit by todays standards. They weren't hard because of sublime game design but because designers back then still didn't know how to make good 3D action adventures, and apply controls to them that didn't suck monkey ass.
They were great for the time, but it's pretty natural that people who haven't experienced the infancy of 3D game design would scoff at the terrible controls and outdated game design.
Honestly speaking, the biggest Survival aspect was down to the inadequate controls that left you at a huge disadvantage, and to overcome it you basically had to exploit the games animations, instead of aquiring any skill that the gameplay offered up front.
Also looking at the games structure now, they are so painfully formulaic that newcomers are hardly going to experience the same feeling of wonder and amazement that we got when we first entered the RPD or Spencer Mansion.
Alabamaman
Banned
It's ported from the PS1 Dualshock version. No extras besides Extreme Battle and updated graphics.
All version differencens listed here
How About No
Member
Kinda like DMC.
Though after almost 16 years with the series, I've come to accept I still suck with the tank controls. I tried to play REmake for the 100th time yesterday (a bit after beating RE1 PSX, too)
I tried to dodge most of the zombies, but ended up failing a lot by turning too much into a wall and letting the zombie turn back around to me.
Also, for REmake, is it even possible to successfully knife zombies without taking damage? Even the "stair trick" means you might get puked on a bit. Those bastards look slow...but they're still faster than you backing up! I want CVX's knife
Spieler Eins said:
That I figured, I mostly avoided shooting at all and ran straight past the zombies. The problem I had was that after a couple of hours I didn't know where to go anymore, had no ink ribbon left, and got plainly bored of playing but didn't want to loose all my progress. Next time I try, which will most likely be after I've tried Revelations, I'll make sure to use a guide when I really get lost.
Hayeya said:
I understand that they're not action games, and I didn't play them as such, but walking around for almost an hour looking for an ink ribbon so I can finally quit playing is what angered me.
Revelations would be a very good choice imo. It still plays like RE 4/5 sans the frequent ammo drops. Plus, autosave
Alright, I'm going to see if my local game store has a copy left then.
Alabamaman
Banned
Never had any problems with tank controls.
It only matters what controller you use. The GC controller is terrible with classic Resident Evil's, the analog is a mess and the dpad is tiny compared to dualshock.
On the other hand it's just perfect for RE4.
It only matters what controller you use. The GC controller is terrible with classic Resident Evil's, the analog is a mess and the dpad is tiny compared to dualshock.
On the other hand it's just perfect for RE4.
How About No
Member
Whoa, I actually feel the opposite.
The Daulshock hurts my thumbs with classic RE, while the GC controller was the best for REmake.
I know. But thanks to that viewpoint, they're not shitty tank controls.
Great thread! Smoking Chris Seal of Approval!
I miss the old REs too man. Oh, how I'd like a RE2 remake...
So many memories, I remember going to residentevilfan.com each days when REmake was about to be released. Watching a bunch of hype videos and shit like this. Hah! XD
I miss the old REs too man. Oh, how I'd like a RE2 remake...
So many memories, I remember going to residentevilfan.com each days when REmake was about to be released. Watching a bunch of hype videos and shit like this. Hah! XD
I worry that RE6 will depart so far from the core of Resident Evil that it can't even be recognized as a true Resident Evil title.
I'm all for moving while shooting and a more action oriented RE title, but everything about RE6 screams that the series is due for another reboot ALREADY.
I thought the re-imagining of the franchise and the way it could be played with RE4 was great - now I just wish they'd go back to making RE4 survival horror and not action horror.
I'm all for moving while shooting and a more action oriented RE title, but everything about RE6 screams that the series is due for another reboot ALREADY.
I thought the re-imagining of the franchise and the way it could be played with RE4 was great - now I just wish they'd go back to making RE4 survival horror and not action horror.
Have you... played Revelations? Definitely a step back in the right direction.
Spieler Eins
Member
RE5 already did this. Arguably even RE4, but I learned to appreciate it much more as a RE entry after the mess that was 5.
I have played Revelations, and I can agree it is a step in the right direction, however, from what we've been shown of RE6 thus far, it appears to be an action oriented kill fest with little to no survival horror.
Every trailer and interview I've seen shows the same thing: lots of shooting, lots of running, and lots of enemies on screen at the same time.
If we're talking about nostalgia, think about how LITTLE shooting there was in RE2 compared to RE4 and RE5.
RE5 was almost an arcade game!
HeadsUpSevenUp
Member
What would be the most iconic RE sound to use for a text ringtone?
What about a normal ringtone? (besides the save rooms)
What about a normal ringtone? (besides the save rooms)
DidntKnowJack
Member
The problem is the pendulum shifted too far the other way and we ended up with RE5 (and probably RE6) which are nothing but goofy action adventure games. They changed the overall tone. Hell, they changed genres mid-series.
There's no horror left. There's no exploration. There are no (almost) game defining environments for you to meander through like the mansions or the police stations of RE1 and 2. Hell, they don't even have zombies anymore.
You can improve a game's controls all day long, but if you're just going to make another 3rd person shooter with a goofy story, what's the friggin' point? You just end up with RE5, which is the opposite of what old RE fans wants. THE EXACT FUCKING OPPOSITE.
Oh, and RE2...when you are in the train descending to the lab and Birkin attacks...
Or when you are in the mayor's secret underground room when Birkin attacks you on the platform...
Or when you're running around with THE SELF DESTRUCT SEQUENCE HAS BEEN ACTIVATED blaring...
Every minute of that short game is masterfully constructed. RE2 is every bit as good as RE4.
Or when you are in the mayor's secret underground room when Birkin attacks you on the platform...
Or when you're running around with THE SELF DESTRUCT SEQUENCE HAS BEEN ACTIVATED blaring...
Every minute of that short game is masterfully constructed. RE2 is every bit as good as RE4.
Electivirus
Member
Oh sweet, REmake just arrived in the mail!
cj_iwakura
Member
These are the REAL Chris, Jill and Weskers.
...and Barry too.
They should've done live action FMVs for all the games.
Wisdom. Live action OP is so good. It did a much better job of building tension, since you hardly saw what was attacking them. REmake gave it all away.
Spieler Eins
Member
It is in fact not even exaggerated to say that in both RE4 and RE5 (each) you killed more enemies than in the whole previous main-series combined, lol.
RE4 was quite special, it was fresh and so well done when it came out on GC, now that everything from Gears to Uncharted have taken cues from it, it's not quite enough for RE to go down that road anymore. Instead of RE6, i would have liked to see if that alternate version of RE4 could have gone anywhere, the atmosphere was spot on from what i remember.
Edit: A reminder
Edit: A reminder
Tizoc
Member
I'm not a big fan of tank controls (yet I'm a fan of the Rockman Dash games lol), but I've watched my brother play all of the RE games. Nemesis and Licker from RE2 are among the 2 monsters that creep me and terrify me =P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_UsXHMK0Gc&feature=related
This scene man....THIS SCENE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_UsXHMK0Gc&feature=related
This scene man....THIS SCENE!
fabricated backlash
Member
Obviously not even the Resident Evil team wanted to do another Resident Evil Zombie game when they made RE4. Even the early prototypes, interviews with Mikami and his remarks about the staff not even wanting to make another game are quite telling about the state of the franchise back then.
The old formula was done to death, and RE4, while not the direction that many fans wanted to see the series go, was probably the saving grace for this Series to even exist today. Even REmake and Zero really exposed how dated the gameplay and design are.
Revelations shows how the old horror and exploration, coupled with a memorable location (more than one in fact) and great controls and streamlined item management.
The old RE formula won't come back and for good reason. They kept that early 3D gameplay alive way longer than it should've. Also from a narrative the series has driven itself to a point where this isolation and low tech aspects of the old RE games is simply not available anymore.
I love the old games and their atmosphere, but I don't want the series to go back to that style of game design. Now the horror and survival aspect should get back, but please not with all the baggage that makes the old games so contrived to play nowadays (Ink Ribbons, 6 space inventories, arbitrary puzzles etc etc)
Resident Evil is a series I regret not checking back in the days. I have 4 and 5, but I feel that going back to the old games wouldn't be as good an experience.
Regarding the music, I remember this being posted in a thread once. Funniest (?) horror game music: Director's Cut: Basement
Regarding the music, I remember this being posted in a thread once. Funniest (?) horror game music: Director's Cut: Basement
fabricated backlash
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Yeah when I first heard that I was checking if the old PS1 was acting up again^^
Spieler Eins
Member
I can't speak for everyone, but I personally wouldn't have cared if they scrapped certain things such as the ink ribbons and I certainly don't want Capcom to keep tank controls for the sake of feeling like the old games, lol. As proven by the RE4 beta video posted above (of which several parts also still made it into the final game), and seemingly also by RE Revelations (Didn't play it yet), you can still upgrade certain mechanics and gameplay to modern standards without completely abandoning the series roots, like RE5 did. 5 went into Michael Bay territory with a series that was once known for its dense atmosphere and challenging gameplay... RE6 looks even more ridiculous.
While RE4 already changed genre in gameplay, it at least tried to stay horror even with several ,calm' portions mixed in and obligatory ridiculous architecture in the castle.
And what's wrong with puzzles? I don't see why you couldn't take the moody parts of RE4 and mix in some exploration and puzzles instead of some out of place, action packed chasing scenes etc thrown in. Or make something like the RE4 beta. Horror games practically were adventure games and even the currently highly regarded Amnesia still has that.
Electivirus
Member
Playing REmake now and holy crap these controls are awful. I didn't know that when people said old RE games had "tank controls", they literally meant that characters control like tanks... I thought they meant that they just moved really really slowly! 
Razgriz-Specter
Member
Everyone in this thread that disliked 4&5's departure from horror should really try to play Revelations.
Its easily become my second favorite in the series.
For its size the ship is easily better than the mansion though the mansion has more to it and is a classic. So the mansion still wins.
Its easily become my second favorite in the series.
For its size the ship is easily better than the mansion though the mansion has more to it and is a classic. So the mansion still wins.
Barry Burton
Member
Great thread.
I picked REmake up on a whim back in 2002 when it came out, mainly because the GameCube was my only next-gen console at the time, and there was a serious release drought. I never really checked the series out back during the PS1/N64 era, so I decided to give the game a shot.
As it turns out, it became one of my favorite games ever and I became a huge fan of the series as a result. Save for RE0, the old-school games are brilliant and are better in nearly all aspects than the "new era" of RE. RE4 is a fantastic game, albeit not what I want in an RE game, but RE5 was average and Revelations is a good, but not great, entry.
Revelations gets close to evoking memories of the classic games, but the developers are clearly still very hesitant to break away from the RE4/RE5 structure. Which is too bad, because ultimately the game is hampered by this fact. It doesn't break away with enough of the RE4/RE5 tropes to become a true survival horror game, and yet it isn't an action game either. It ends up being, like Lost in Nightmares before it, a "Survival Horror For Dummies" experience.
I'd love to see the old-school style of RE return, but I've fully accepted that it's never going to happen.
I picked REmake up on a whim back in 2002 when it came out, mainly because the GameCube was my only next-gen console at the time, and there was a serious release drought. I never really checked the series out back during the PS1/N64 era, so I decided to give the game a shot.
As it turns out, it became one of my favorite games ever and I became a huge fan of the series as a result. Save for RE0, the old-school games are brilliant and are better in nearly all aspects than the "new era" of RE. RE4 is a fantastic game, albeit not what I want in an RE game, but RE5 was average and Revelations is a good, but not great, entry.
Revelations gets close to evoking memories of the classic games, but the developers are clearly still very hesitant to break away from the RE4/RE5 structure. Which is too bad, because ultimately the game is hampered by this fact. It doesn't break away with enough of the RE4/RE5 tropes to become a true survival horror game, and yet it isn't an action game either. It ends up being, like Lost in Nightmares before it, a "Survival Horror For Dummies" experience.
I'd love to see the old-school style of RE return, but I've fully accepted that it's never going to happen.