So I was reading through this thread started by Matt at IGN boards; apparently Nintendo responded to someone's inquiry about the rev supporting HD:
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Revolution will not support HD?
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Particle Physicist
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wait. who actually posted that. and how reliable are they
Jibber Hack
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One, I would not be surprised if this is that case. Two, anything can change from here on out. Three, damn it, I have an HDTV and want to use it fully so Revolution better use it.
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Kleegamefan
K. LEE GAIDEN
BULLSHIT Nintendo....
I think they are just downplaying the graphics of Revolution which will probably have competitive graphics with the X360 and even PS3, IMO...
They are going with multi-core IBM Power CPUs and an ATI GPU, just like Microsoft X360.....except, of course, Rev. will use tech ~1 year newer than in the X360...
2-3 times Gamecube performance MY ASS (more like 20-30 times, probably)
I think they are just downplaying the graphics of Revolution which will probably have competitive graphics with the X360 and even PS3, IMO...
They are going with multi-core IBM Power CPUs and an ATI GPU, just like Microsoft X360.....except, of course, Rev. will use tech ~1 year newer than in the X360...
2-3 times Gamecube performance MY ASS (more like 20-30 times, probably)
Nintendo WILL support HD, they arn't (that) stupid. Not that I care tough, my TV isn't HD. Unless I'm the only one whose TV isn't HDTV I can't see why this will affect them much. And on the HD won't look better than normal resolution games 100% of the times comment, I can't see how that will happen unless they mean two different games.
Mama Smurf
My penis is still intact.
I imagine next gen the vast majority of gamers would be unaffected (I certainly can't afford an HDTV anytime soon), but, as I said previously, anyone who does have an HDTV is never going to buy a third party multiplatform title on the Revolution over the other systems, unless the controller holds some sort of advantages for the game. In fact, even people who don't have HD might buy the titles on other systems, either because they think they might someday or because Revolution reviews are knocked down a few percent in for it.
EDIT: Didn't Iwata already talk about not supporting HD? I thought it was confirmed. Something about not wanting to make developers create different textures for different Resolutions or something, as they're all about making development easier and cheaper.
EDIT: Didn't Iwata already talk about not supporting HD? I thought it was confirmed. Something about not wanting to make developers create different textures for different Resolutions or something, as they're all about making development easier and cheaper.
Warm Machine
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It would be suicide doing this. Fact is that first impressions sell games and if all Rev games are running in low res next to stuff at 720p and higher on the other machines they are setting themselves up for failure.
um, you're talking about a simple resoultion difference, not something even remotely similar to, say, a full generation gap between handhelds, which hasn't stopped Nintendo from succeeding for the past twenty years against 10 competitors.Warm Machine said:
Really, if you think that not supporting HD is going to kill nintendo next gen, you need to get a fucking clue.
ManaByte said:
They did, but they botched the thing up in the first place by going with a digital port and requiring a DAC for components capables. That essentially kept 480p gaming on the GC a super niche. With all the things about ready to happen with TV's and HD in just a couple of years, I would utterly shocked if the Revolution had not support for HD.
I do think that Nintendo is not going to require developers to support a base resolution like MS is doing. This might be a confusion between that distinction if this is actually legit.
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Well I don't know if anyone else has already, but I emailed them about this. I guess we'll wait on the response.
Dr.Guru of Peru
played the long game
All I know is...there is way too much information in that for it to be a normal customer response.
Nope.jimbo said:
ge-man said:
True ge-man, I stated this in one of my earlier posts. They aren't forcing devs. to support a native resolution. Basically all 1st party games are still done in 480p, even after the removal of the digital out. They based this decision on component cables sales from their own outlet, (the only one that supplied for the GC) but I suspect that it was done more as a cost saving measure along with moving major GC manufacturing to China to offset the $99 price reduction once they began incurring losses again since they first launched the GC on the hw side. (est. at somewhere between $10-20 dollars per unit initially) It has since stabilized some time ago, & Nintendo is breaking even with GC manufacturing.
That being said, Iwata also mentioned mentioned something along these same lines. Perhaps 720p will be their maximum supported resolution.
OK so let's recap. We're not going to give you more power than our competitiors. You don't need that. We're not going to give you HD-gaming. You don't need that either. We're not going to give you a hard drive. It's just a waste of space and it will cost us money. You'll understand that. We're probably not even going to give you DVD. You don't need to watch movies. Go to the theaters for that.
So what ARE we going to give you? Well, let us play a puzzle with you.....
That fucking controller better be the best thing since sliced bread and they better have one HELL of a line-up.
Yes Nintendo. I realize that you can probably rely on style and your lovable characters to create a game that will look just as good as everyone else, but guess what, other developers WON'T. EA is not going to change the style of Madden for the Revolution and Activision won't create a whole new Spiderman for the system. They want to be able to port their games as easy as possible without having to recode and retexture the whole damn game. So you're putting your gamers in the same position they were before. Having to wait months and months before YOU will put out a game they'll give two shits about.
So what ARE we going to give you? Well, let us play a puzzle with you.....
That fucking controller better be the best thing since sliced bread and they better have one HELL of a line-up.
Yes Nintendo. I realize that you can probably rely on style and your lovable characters to create a game that will look just as good as everyone else, but guess what, other developers WON'T. EA is not going to change the style of Madden for the Revolution and Activision won't create a whole new Spiderman for the system. They want to be able to port their games as easy as possible without having to recode and retexture the whole damn game. So you're putting your gamers in the same position they were before. Having to wait months and months before YOU will put out a game they'll give two shits about.
Gahiggidy
My aunt & uncle run a Mom & Pop store, "The Gamecube Hut", and sold 80k WiiU within minutes of opening.
I agree. In all my experience email corresponing with NOA, I've never gotten a reply quite like that. And I have a very good relationship with thier email people. They know me well.Dr.Guru of Peru said:
Hey I got an email back from Nintendo today too!
Their response:
"Hello and thank you for contacting Nintendo,
You better not buy the Revolution because we don't want it to succed.
Keep checking our website at www.nintendo.com for the latest on Nintendo games, systems, and promotions. And, while on our site, also check out the My Nintendo program. With this program, not only can you monitor the status of a subscription, part order or repair order, but you can also register your games and systems, and participate in the Nintendo Forums.
Thanks for your email and good luck with all your games!"
I got it from Nintendo, it must be true!
Their response:
"Hello and thank you for contacting Nintendo,
You better not buy the Revolution because we don't want it to succed.
Keep checking our website at www.nintendo.com for the latest on Nintendo games, systems, and promotions. And, while on our site, also check out the My Nintendo program. With this program, not only can you monitor the status of a subscription, part order or repair order, but you can also register your games and systems, and participate in the Nintendo Forums.
Thanks for your email and good luck with all your games!"
I got it from Nintendo, it must be true!
http://new.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=47579
There is no anti Nintendo conspiracy at the New York Times, but I was attacked for mentioning it in the above thread.
There is no anti Nintendo conspiracy at the New York Times, but I was attacked for mentioning it in the above thread.
WhippinSean
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They are using multi-core.Mrbob said:
CrimsonSkies
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You can't get that much power in that small of a box.
"BULLSHIT Nintendo....
I think they are just downplaying the graphics of Revolution which will probably have competitive graphics with the X360 and even PS3, IMO...
They are going with multi-core IBM Power CPUs and an ATI GPU, just like Microsoft X360.....except, of course, Rev. will use tech ~1 year newer than in the X360...
2-3 times Gamecube performance MY ASS (more like 20-30 times, probably)"
That just makes NO sense from a marketing point. If words spreads that the GC will be heavily underpowered, the majority of people will believe that, and Nintendo's going to have a nightmare on their hands making EVERYONE believe later that's not the case, if it realy isn't the case.
Case in point: Perfect Dark Zero for the 360. No matter how many positive reviews are coming out now saying the game looks great, NO ONE believes it.
So I ask you, knowing very well how marketing works and how word of mouth spreads why would Nintendo downppay their graphics if they actually had something on par? Why NOT just say, our stuff is going to be on PAR with the rest of the systems and make everyone feel good about it. Why even allow for word to get out it's not as good?
I think they are just downplaying the graphics of Revolution which will probably have competitive graphics with the X360 and even PS3, IMO...
They are going with multi-core IBM Power CPUs and an ATI GPU, just like Microsoft X360.....except, of course, Rev. will use tech ~1 year newer than in the X360...
2-3 times Gamecube performance MY ASS (more like 20-30 times, probably)"
That just makes NO sense from a marketing point. If words spreads that the GC will be heavily underpowered, the majority of people will believe that, and Nintendo's going to have a nightmare on their hands making EVERYONE believe later that's not the case, if it realy isn't the case.
Case in point: Perfect Dark Zero for the 360. No matter how many positive reviews are coming out now saying the game looks great, NO ONE believes it.
So I ask you, knowing very well how marketing works and how word of mouth spreads why would Nintendo downppay their graphics if they actually had something on par? Why NOT just say, our stuff is going to be on PAR with the rest of the systems and make everyone feel good about it. Why even allow for word to get out it's not as good?
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
CrimsonSkies said:
Unless Nintendo plans on going for some premium pricing above what Sony and MS are offering. 
Bluemercury
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CrimsonSkies said:
Not, when you have a patent for cooling your own machine........at least i saw it somewhere dont quite recall where though.....
CabbageRed
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Bluemercury said:
The cores are being placed in separate controllers. That way, when people are taking advantage of the gyroscopic controls, they are also providing extra air flow to each core. The more immersed you become in a game, the cooler the cores become and the better the graphics get.
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