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Rocksmith |OT| While My Guitar Gently Weeps

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Ready for your first 2/5 DLC hint? This band named themselves after a nuclear superhero's sidekick from an animated series.
 
I'm sure you've heard Fallout Boy... Have you avoided the setlists for both Guitar Hero and Rock Band? Have you never heard "Sugar We're Going Down" ;)
 
I'm sure you've heard Fallout Boy... Have you avoided the setlists for both Guitar Hero and Rock Band? Have you never heard "Sugar We're Going Down" ;)

No, I haven't. I only owned the original GH and RB, and I'm not really the type to play through the entire campaign for those type of games.
 
No, I haven't. I only owned the original GH and RB, and I'm not really the type to play through the entire campaign for those type of games.

You've likely heard them without knowing it from when they were popular.

That said for any of the RS forum crawlers reading this thread please give me LA Woman by the Doors.
 
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Here's hint #2 for the 2/5 DLC: Neal Avron affirmed his status as the go-to producer for pop-punk with this double-platinum single.

Sugar We're Going Down
 

Maddocks

Member
I'm sure this has been answered many times in this thread but with 17 pages its hard to search.

I'm thinking of buying this on PS3, but I read that it has some input lag that can be off putting and hamper learning instead of helping. Is there a way to counter this fully?
 

Vodh

Junior Member
Woah, woah, woah... When the fuck did they release the Bass expansion? How the hell am I learning about it just now? The marketing department working on the game needs to do some serious homework, I had to see a sticker on the box when I was idly browsing games in my local GAME store to learn about this...

This game is so mine now, ordered the 'get here as soon as you can, don't care about the money' delivery option from Amazon just a few seconds ago.
 

Xyber

Member
I'm sure this has been answered many times in this thread but with 17 pages its hard to search.

I'm thinking of buying this on PS3, but I read that it has some input lag that can be off putting and hamper learning instead of helping. Is there a way to counter this fully?

If you use a stereo for your sound connected via the RCA cables (don't know about optic cable) you will get the least amount of audio lag I believe. Sound through HDMI is not the way to go.

I can only go from my experience with the PC version, but the lag is not noticeable when everything is working as it should.
 

Vodh

Junior Member
What's the best way to buy DLC on the PC version? From what I've seen there's a few larger packs on PS3 or 360, but can't see any that are over 3 songs on Steam...
 
What's the best way to buy DLC on the PC version? From what I've seen there's a few larger packs on PS3 or 360, but can't see any that are over 3 songs on Steam...

The larger packs (full of multi artists) appear for a limited time and then they disappear. There are 5 Packs for artists like Rush, Foo Fighters, and Queen.

Woah, woah, woah... When the fuck did they release the Bass expansion? How the hell am I learning about it just now? The marketing department working on the game needs to do some serious homework, I had to see a sticker on the box when I was idly browsing games in my local GAME store to learn about this...

August 2012. Also the game came out in the UK with Bass included. There was no way to buy the game localized without it...
 

Maddocks

Member
If you use a stereo for your sound connected via the RCA cables (don't know about optic cable) you will get the least amount of audio lag I believe. Sound through HDMI is not the way to go.

I can only go from my experience with the PC version, but the lag is not noticeable when everything is working as it should.

I have it so that HDMI is for video, but all sound is going into my headset using RCA cables. So I assume I should be ok. I still got the game, because 30 dollars for guitar and bass is just a easy buy. Thanks for the info and help.
 
Woah, woah, woah... When the fuck did they release the Bass expansion? How the hell am I learning about it just now? The marketing department working on the game needs to do some serious homework, I had to see a sticker on the box when I was idly browsing games in my local GAME store to learn about this...

This game is so mine now, ordered the 'get here as soon as you can, don't care about the money' delivery option from Amazon just a few seconds ago.

It's more about your audio set up but a low response time really helps. I have a Sharp Aquos and I can play even with HDMI for my audio and it's perfect.
 

Vodh

Junior Member
This game is so good... Love how the difficulty is constantly pushing you towards the actual notes, a few times I was like 'woah, gimmie a sec, I only just got this part right on the previous setting!', but the effect is absolutely great.

Unfortunately I've also crushed my left hand carrying some heavy shit on some unfamiliar stairs and it's starting to hurt even when i'm just typing, but god I love this game already.
 
I want to get into this, I invested into the Pro Guitar of RB, but there's something about the layout of Rocksmith that just seems too confusing for me to comprehend.
 
I want to get into this, I invested into the Pro Guitar of RB, but there's something about the layout of Rocksmith that just seems too confusing for me to comprehend.

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Rocksmith is an alternate way of displaying tablature. Imagine you’re looking through the back of your guitar neck and you have the back drop of the Rocksmith interface. At the bottom of the screen you have your guitar strings which are now color coded with:

E – Red

A – Yellow

D – Blue

G – Orange

B – Green

e – Purple

The Guitar Hero aspect is done through the notes floating down the respective frets of your on screen guitar and having you hit them as they hit your strings at the bottom. Most guitars have 22 frets so the fretboard shifts down the “neck” as needed. The area that you will be dealing with for each section of the song will be highlighted in light blue to let you know where your should be keeping your hands.

The notion of the Rocksmith Method being an alternate way of displaying tablature is reinforced by the option to invert the strings to mirror how you would learn a song on a website like ultimate-guitar. Chords are displayed in “windows,” which, when repeated, are notated by lines in the light blue lane following the initial chord. Bends, harmonics, slides, and hammer-ons and pull-offs are also tracked.

If you have any other questions feel free to ask, I'm sure lots of people can share their experiences during their "adjustment period".
 
Well the adjustment is a small price to pay for using an actual bass to play a bass song.

Yeah I'd really like to learn bass, but I still need to buy one. I'm using the Pro Mustang, and damn is it difficult in terms of feedback, the strings are so well loose and awkward it's hard to do fast strumming parts.
 

Rapstah

Member
For ridiculously fast parts like Painkiller's solo I think Rocksmith's visualisation breaks apart to where you have to have already learned the part before you can understand what you're looking at, but considering that that is a problem of all comparable representations I've seen so far, absolutely including Pro Guitar, I like what Rocksmith does to simple parts the most.

I dislike how they have no way to show slides for chords, muted chords, or if what you're playing is an arpeggiated chord, though. That's just flawed because the first two of those could easily be shown by using a variant of what they already have for single notes.
 
I'm sure this has been answered many times in this thread but with 17 pages its hard to search.

I'm thinking of buying this on PS3, but I read that it has some input lag that can be off putting and hamper learning instead of helping. Is there a way to counter this fully?

If it is any help, the PS3 version is the least likely to suffer from lag, in my experience. The other platforms are much more sensitive to lag, and often require you to use an analog audio out solution. But on the PS3, the HDMI out is virtually lag-less, so that the only risk you have is that your display or HDMI receiver (whichever you use) introduces lag (in which case you can still quite easily resort to analog audio out with the cable included with every PS3).

The only downside of the PS3 version is that larger concert venues introduce framerate issues, which can be annoying. If you ignore what you see and just keep playing the song however 'by ear', the game will keep tracking everything correctly, so the display is clearly decoupled from that, which is good. But it is something to keep in mind. If it gives you any trouble, just practice the song first - you won't be in a venue then (the audience is the main issue for creating framerate issues) and so won't have the slowdown.

I played up to level 11 or so on PS3, and enjoyed it immensely. Now I've switched to PC, as I recently bought a pretty powerful one and I can play it at 1080p native with no framerate issues, even in 3D if I want to. I'm somewhere level 5 now or so on PC.

I agree with Rapstah by the way. There is some room for improvement there still. But it works quite well generally.
 
the PS3 version of the game is also prone to crashes/issues (XMB lock ups) which is a standard for most music games on PS3 (from what I've observed since 2006).
 

Xyber

Member
I don't know, it just seems to much easier using this method...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvrxKEW-XEU

Just seems a bit easier to me, maybe because I'm used to it.

I think it's really hard to read the Rock Band tabs now that I am used to Rocksmith. In faster parts it's just too hard to read the numbers in Rock Band.

Take this as an example (even though I'm not nearly good enough to play something that fast yet) http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=WFlmqVcUol0#t=125s
It's just so much easier to take in all the information when it is visualized like that (to me at least). The hardest part is to learn what colour is what string, after that it's pretty easy.
 
I just can't understand why the B string isn't blue and the G string isn't green. It's such an obvious mental shorthand that it trips me up that it isn't arranged that way.

I don't understand the reasoning for this. Do you feel the same way about RB Pro being Red, Green, Orange, Blue, Yellow, Purple?
 
I don't understand the reasoning for this. Do you feel the same way about RB Pro being Red, Green, Orange, Blue, Yellow, Purple?

I don't play Rock Band. But, you really can't see how it would help for the B string to be Blue and the G string to be Green? It's a very easy visual shorthand.
 

Xyber

Member
I don't play Rock Band. But, you really can't see how it would help for the B string to be Blue and the G string to be Green? It's a very easy visual shorthand.

While that might have made some sense for those two, the rest are still random colours so it doesn't really matter.

I think it is the way it is so that 2 similar colours are not close to each other. I don't know how colour blind people see them, but with the help of the hight of the note and the colour, two strings will be easier to tell apart. If some people have trouble seeing the difference between blue and green it would be really hard to know what to play if the strings were next to each other. Vinny from Giant Bomb brought this up in the Quick Look for the game too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=o5UQf4iyVv8#t=568s
 
I would think you would use 6 colors on the spectrum with increasing intensity, like red, next to orange, next to yellow sort of thing.

I agree it's pretty random but you get used to it eventually. I think knowing if they want you to play on a fret marker (3,5,7,9,12) or in between those is a lot harder and has a steeper learning curve to it
 
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More DLC hits next week! Here's hint #1: this 4-piece was a ukulele player named Woody, a cartoon monkey look-alike, a bassist who couldn’t play, and Johnny Thunders' biggest fan.
 
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Here's hint #2 for the 2/12 DLC: When playing this song live, this band’s bassist would often switch instruments with their rhythm guitarist, as he had trouble singing and playing this bass part.
 

jgkspsx

Member
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Here's hint #2 for the 2/12 DLC: When playing this song live, this band’s bassist would often switch instruments with their rhythm guitarist, as he had trouble singing and playing this bass part.

Pink Floyd - Pigs (Three Different Ones)

haw, Waters could never have played that bassline anyway
 
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Our weekly DLC keeps rolling with more great tunes out next Tuesday! Here's hint #1: one of our DLC bands from December used to mix this song in with one of their own when playing live.
 

Therion

Member
Anyone know if this game enables on Steam if I buy it for PC in a regular store?
It does indeed. It's probably the easiest way to get it since you need to buy a physical cable anyway (assuming you don't already have a console version).
 

yamo

Member
All right, thanks!

Buying the game on steam and then buying the cable separately will be a lot more expensive for me.
 
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