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Rooster Teeth berate Jeff Gerstmann/Giant Bomb's Fallout 4 review while...

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I don't even know what to say that. Jeff pretty much summed it up. Not necessarily the guys I trust for Fallout news and notes, even though I disagree with Jeff's review of the console version of F4. It's an opinion.
 
What makes your ethics S.P.E.C.I.A.L?

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This cast of rejects from a Bethesda character creator could really do with some more CHR.
 
It's extra crazy because he specifically gave the game 3 stars directly on account of console performance, the presence of a simultaneous 4 star review for the PC version seems to automatically invalidate their assertion that Gerstmann was being harsh for "da clickz"

If anything, it would be negligent for Gerstmann to just stick with the 4 star review and say "fuck it, it's probabbly fine on consoles" He actually went to extra effort to check out all versions, and he reflected this by having two scores.

You wonder if these clowns even went to check the site the review was hosted on...but seeing as they were doing pre release endorsements for F4, I doubt fact checking would get in the way of shitting on people who stick to their guns.
 

Mesoian

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I don't even know what to say that. Jeff pretty much summed it up. Not necessarily the guys I trust for Fallout news and notes, even though I disagree with Jeff's review of the console version of F4. It's an opinion.

Yup.

I go to Rooster Teeth for their original shows. Not for their opinion on anything gaming.
 

Suplexer

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I didn't even know this company existed.
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But yeah gaming review sites like to shit on each other and call each other out all the time. I don't think there is any actual hate or bad intentions

This instance is particulary funny though, since they are not a review site. They are a company that is paid to make ads and videos for video game companies. They make all those Gamestop in-game ads that play on the TVs at Gamestops. This company has many different branches though, sure, but the people on this podcast make money from the games they are defending. They are "in bed" (if that is not too strong a term) with Microsoft VERY heavily. They show up in promotional material for the XBO and everything. They aren't a group that shouldn't be taken seriously when it comes to their critical opinions on games, due to how connected they are to many of the companies on a business level.

The problem I have with them going on a rant like this is that they have millions of fans, and their fans are absolutely going to favor their opinions over anyone else's even if they really probably shouldn't.
 
RT has always been this bad. They're a joke.

GB doesn't have to do reviews to get clicks, they have a sub service and review what they feel drawn to so their whole argument is invalid.
 

Zaph

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Probably worth mentioning the founder of RT seems to have a lot of respect for Gerstmann, and they've been on each other's panels. This looks like an uninformed cosplayer said something dumb, and the other guys went with it.

Even the RT community savaged them over it. Here's Ryan's response in their subreddit where he doubles-down (check the downvotes)

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soultron

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I let a hearty laugh fly when I read Gerstmann's reply to the guy who pointed it out. Honestly, as someone who enjoys FO4, I have no issues with his review of it; he honestly points out flaws with the game that make sense. I still find the game fun, even if he gave it a 3/5.

Nuanced criticism is a good thing. Making fun of someone for it (even if it's a light jab about sipping wine and eating cheese) is probably better said off-air.
 
This is clearly a contentious topic, so I'll take the side everyone can agree on:

Motherfuck your clickbait thread title. You seriously couldn't just put "wearing Pip-Boys" or something on there?
 

Joey Ravn

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I don't get how they're like "everyone else is giving this 90's" as if every person needs to have the same opinions. Reviews are subjective.

See all those Pipboys lying around? All those Fallout 4-inspired videos they produced? That should give you an idea as to why they are so adamant about the quality of the game.
 
Probably worth mentioning the founder of RT seems to have a lot of respect for Gerstmann, and they've been on each other's panels. This looks like an uninformed cosplayer said something dumb, and the other guys went with it.

Even the RT community savaged them over it. Here's Ryan's response in their subreddit where he doubles-down (check the downvotes)

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Just keep digging...
 

vypek

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I only know of Rooster Teeth because of their Red vs Blue videos of yore. Oh, and RWBY too.
Is that them as well?

Yes, pretty sure they are connected to RWBY as well which is the only reason I know anything about them at all...well that is the only thing I know. I didn't even know they were connected to Red v Blue.
 

pastrami

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This instance is particulary funny though, since they are not a review site. They are a company that is paid to make ads and videos for video game companies. They make all those Gamestop in-game ads that play on the TVs at Gamestops. This company has many different branches though, sure, but the people on this podcast make money from the games they are defending. They are "in bed" (if that is not too strong a term) with Microsoft VERY heavily. They show up in promotional material for the XBO and everything. They aren't a group that shouldn't be taken seriously when it comes to their critical opinions on games, due to how connected they are to many of the companies on a business level.

The problem I have with them going on a rant like this is that they have millions of fans, and their fans are absolutely going to favor their opinions over anyone else's even if they really probably shouldn't.

I used to like Rooster Teeth when they were still basically just Red versus Blue. Stopped watching after a couple seasons, but it seems like they turned into corporate puppets/fanboys.
 
Probably worth mentioning the founder of RT seems to have a lot of respect for Gerstmann, and they've been on each other's panels. This looks like an uninformed cosplayer said something dumb, and the other guys went with it.

Even the RT community savaged them over it. Here's Ryan's response in their subreddit where he doubles-down (check the downvotes)

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lmao @ "I don't know if Jeff did that with his review" Of course he didn't, come on.
 
They have been sell outs for a long long time. Hilarious that they think they have a shred of integrity which lets them call out other people.
 
Rooster Teeth have been shills for awhile. I am surprised anyone takes them seriously with game reviews.
Funny videos though...
 

Curufinwe

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Probably worth mentioning the founder of RT seems to have a lot of respect for Gerstmann, and they've been on each other's panels. This looks like an uninformed cosplayer said something dumb, and the other guys went with it.

Even the RT community savaged them over it. Here's Ryan's response in their subreddit where he doubles-down (check the downvotes)

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This is a really terrible response.
 
Probably worth mentioning the founder of RT seems to have a lot of respect for Gerstmann, and they've been on each other's panels. This looks like an uninformed cosplayer said something dumb, and the other guys went with it.

Even the RT community savaged them over it. Here's Ryan's response in their subreddit where he doubles-down (check the downvotes)

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yes, Jeff sabotaged 15+ years of journalistic integrity just to get a few zingers in there about Fallout and maybe get a few eyeballs on his website. yes, absolutely.
 
Why is it that people excuse bugs and glitches in a game like Fallout because it's "expected" but any other game with game breaking glitches gets torn apart?
 

Hindl

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The only reviewer that matters, Tom Chick, also gave it a 3/5. Gerstmann justified.

What's even worse is that Jeff gave the game a 4/5 (PC score), and then docked a point on consoles for the performance. He liked the game overall, so they just look like fools
 

KarmaCow

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Probably worth mentioning the founder of RT seems to have a lot of respect for Gerstmann, and they've been on each other's panels. This looks like an uninformed cosplayer said something dumb, and the other guys went with it.

Even the RT community savaged them over it. Here's Ryan's response in their subreddit where he doubles-down (check the downvotes)

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What a shame, Ryan's a pretty cool dude otherwise.
 

Xyber

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I like some of their videos but their podcasts are unbearable to listen to. Glad to see this reinforces my opinion about it. Also, people disliking a game for technical issues is fair game. They're acting like children about it. Jeff had issues with it on consoles and that was his call to make. They sound like those dumb fanboys in review threads.

The regular podcast that is about anything and everything can be fun to listen to, depending on who is on it. But I agree that most gaming stuff they do is pretty bad. A lot of misinformation being spouted in The Patch.

I like some of their let's play videos though.


"Like people were jizzing over Jeff Gerstmann and Giant Bomb because they called out all the problems in the game."

And I see nothing wrong with that, game shouldn't get a free pass because it's Fallout. If the performance is crappy and there's a lot of bugs, it doesn't deserve a great score. That shit needs to be called out and not ignored.
 
Probably worth mentioning the founder of RT seems to have a lot of respect for Gerstmann, and they've been on each other's panels. This looks like an uninformed cosplayer said something dumb, and the other guys went with it.

Even the RT community savaged them over it. Here's Ryan's response in their subreddit where he doubles-down (check the downvotes)

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lol, yeah, that "wine and cheese" comment was directed at him. What a fucking liar.
 
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