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[Dazzler]

those guys sitting around wearing Pip Boys while trashing Gerstmann's 3/5 is every bit as bad as the Doritos Pope

 

[Rubezh]

I wonder how much money changed hands.

 

[outunderthestars]

I enjoy the game more than Jeff did, but have no problem with his review. I also really don't think Jeff gives a flying fuck about what any other site has to say about his work.

 

[Curufinwe]

Non issues like this makes me glad I'm not into the giant bomb "fandom" like some other people.

Bad posts like this make me glad you're not into Giant Bomb.

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

Unsure if sarcasm, but they basically made a story of a Red Team and Blue Team in Blood Gulch and used Halo CE to record it.

Season 1 is still great: https://m.youtube.com/results?q=red vs blue season 1&sm=1

I've actually never played Halo so I wasn't joking.

 

[backflip10019]

lol, yeah, that "wine and cheese" comment was directed at him. What a fucking liar.

*squirms*
"Uh, just because I said it in the middle of a conversation about a specific person doesn't mean it's about him!"

Ridiculous logic. He got caught shit-talking for no reason. Man up, take the L, move on.

 

[Colonel Nasty]

"I don't know if Jeff did it for the clicks"

 

[Voror]

I remember listening to the podcast this came up on and was just shaking my head the whole way through. They also didn't mention that while the console version got 3/5, the PC got 4/5. The idea that Jeff would purposefully give a lower score just for attention seems rather laughable when really it's that he felt the bugs lowered the quality of the game, which is perfectly reasonable.

 

[PBY]

Non issues like this makes me glad I'm not into the giant bomb "fandom" like some other people.

This has nothing to do with GB fandom?

 

[dhonk]

Probably worth mentioning the founder of RT seems to have a lot of respect for Gerstmann, and they've been on each other's panels. This looks like an uninformed cosplayer said something dumb, and the other guys went with it.

Even the RT community savaged them over it. Here's Ryan's response in their subreddit where he doubles-down (check the downvotes)

not classy tbh

 

[Plywood]

What is rooster teeth?

The guys who made Red vs. Blue and outside of that, largely irrelevant.

 

[GrandiaX]

Worst thread ever. Who cares.

 

[inky]

Pretty much proof that Jeff is still the best. Having said that:

Meg Turney: "Ok, so I have a bone to pick. And it's people who review shit low. Because I feel like people do that to be 'eh we're different'. Everybody gave Fallout 4 90s and up. 70. You're not different or special because you review a game low!"

She'd fit right in here. People go apeshit and throw equivalent hissy fits once their darling games are scored lower by an outlet, see every Naughty Dog review thread and the like.

 

[antitrop]

Non issues like this makes me glad I'm not into the giant bomb "fandom" like some other people.

What are you taking about and why are you posting in this thread?

 

[Riki]

No, that doesn't seem suspicious at all.
I also always take Polygon's word on all things Playstation and trust Keighley when it comes to Halo reviews.

This industry is gross.

 

[Ragnaros]

They made the Red vs Blue videos a while back. I stopped paying attention to them after Season 3 or 4, story got convoluted.

That's the only thing I recognize them from. Season 1 of Red vs Blue was fantastic.

 

[JoseLopez]

I finished Fallout 4 on PS4 and share the same view on overall technical performance as Gerstmann does. It's the worst I've seen in a console game this year, for sure.

I wouldn't go that far but yeah it's certainly got issues.
This sounds more like rooster teeth running their mouth like dummies like that Ryan guy spouts so much inaccurate bs it's kinda scary how he still has a job.

 

[brianmcdoogle]

I've always maintained that YouTubers were the video gaming equivalent of mommy bloggers and this certainly doesn't change my mind on the issue.

 

[Hupsel]

Lol and they target Gertsmann, the guy that gave Kane & Lynch a low score and lost his job because of it, even if his website was gettin $$ from Eidos. If theres someone I trust is ma friend Jeff

Spoiler

fuck that Nuts and Bolts review though

 

[Fitts]

I'm not familiar with the specific review in question and I have no idea if the Rooster Teeth comments were off base in this circumstance, but I'm glad to read that someone is publicly taking Gerstmann to task in some form. The guy is a stick-in-the-mud blight on games media that's treated like a messiah for giving one shit game a mediocre review a decade ago. He has zero enthusiasm and only cynicism for gaming -- and it shows in both his writing as well as his podcast. He should just switch over to writing about wrestling or something that he actually enjoys.

 

[SlickShoesRUCrazy]

The guys who made Red vs. Blue and outside of that, largely irrelevant.

I wouldn't say they are irrelevant, unless you are talking specifically in regards to games.

 

[SJRB]

Embarrassing, really. But at least this thread got Rooster Teeth more exposure than they've had all month.

 

[PBY]

I'm not familiar with the specific review in question and I have no idea of the Rooster Teeth comments were off base in this circumstance, but I'm glad to read that someone is publicly taking Gerstmann to task. The guy is a stick-in-the-mud blight on games media that's treated like a messiah for giving one shit game a mediocre review a decade ago. He has zero enthusiasm and only cynicism for gaming -- and it shows in both his writing as well as his podcast. He should just switch over to writing about wrestling or something that he actually enjoys.

Wait what?

 

[Zader]

How on earth do they expect to be taken seriously saying shit like this? Whilst wearing those dumb plastic pipboys too...come on.

 

[Spaghetti]

the wine and cheese comment is so fucking stupid.

 

[FStop7]

I enjoy the game more than Jeff did, but have no problem with his review. I also really don't think Jeff gives a flying fuck about what any other site has to say about his work.

I guess that's why I'm doubly confused as to why some are so up in arms about his review. Jeff makes salient, realistic points and criticisms. It's not like he was making shit up or making ill-informed criticisms. FO4 is my GOTY (which surprised me in a huge way) but there's nothing I really disagree with in his review.

 

[Jasper Avenue]

The peasants always hate the king.

 

[SparkleMotion]

Pretty much proof that Jeff is still the best. Having said that:



She'd fit right in here. People go apeshit and throw equivalent hissy fits once their darling games are scored lower by an outlet, see every Naughty Dog review thread and the like.

This is true. In a lot of Review Threads, when a negative one comes along, a majority of threads seem to say "everyone else is giving it good reviews so this guy must be wrong." I've even seen bad reviews called clickbait by users in those topics.

 

[Brewster's Wallet]

Why so low?

Just perfect.
What's gonna sell?!

 

[blakep267]

The fact that she knows about the Mixlr makes me think she listens to it.

Lol yeah. it was a weird call out

 

[family_guy]

Big name franchises usually get passes that other games do not. That should be frowned upon. We need more objective journalism.

 

[Peru]

I've said it many times before - we need more low scores, more diversity in scores, not less.

 

[Plywood]

I wouldn't say they are irrelevant, unless you are talking specifically in regards to games.

In regards to games yes, but it seems they did ads for gamestop according to a poster here. So there's that I suppose.

 

[Heel]

If there's room for different approaches and disagreeing on games, why are you chiding Jeff Gerstmann for sharing his differing opinion?

 

[Cday]

That review was Jeff's honest opinion. I find myself disagreeing with his opinions often and don't put as much stock into them as some might. Still there's an inherent difference between giving something a lower score because it lines up with your opinion and doing it for attention. 3/5 is still a positive score.

 

[Zojirushi]

lol I dunno isn't this what happens in pretty much every AAA game Review Thread on GAF?

Like, just watch when he ends up not liking Uncharted 4. Oh boy...

 

[KarmaCow]

I've said it many times before - we need more low scores, more diversity in scores, not less.

Well we don't need low scores or a broader range. We need people to actually say what they think.

 

[Kade]

These YouTube gaming personalities become more intolerable and unappealing every time they open their mouths. Not surprised they respond this way to criticism of products made by companies paying their bills though.

 

[theytookourjobz]

So Ryan says they base their reviews on the "gamers experience" and not by the games technical issues? Do they think that "gamers" aren't bothered by technical issues? Why do they think Digital Foundry exists?

 

[SparkleMotion]

Saying that the bugs and technical problems with the game are overblown is just disgusting. My friend lost 6 hours of progress because of a bug that made progression impossible. Technical problems should not be swept under the rug just because it's a big franchise. It can still be a good game whole getting it's score lowered due to technical stuff.

 

[Zader]

I've said it many times before - we need more low scores, more diversity in scores, not less.

We don't need more low scores if they're not warranted

 

[Breads]

What is rooster teeth?

An organization of people that generated millions of dollars by being fanboys of things.

I love Fallout 4. Sacrificed a week of vacations and several entire nights playing it (close to 100 hours) and I still am readily being able to agree with every single point in the Giant Bomb review. The problem isn't that Giant Bomb scores games too low. The problem other reviewers have with how GB scores is that GB doesn't follow the retarded 90+ good/ 80-89 average/ 70 and below bad scale that every other corporate shill uses.

(multiple edits later - my bad english is getting the better of me today)

 

[GhaleonEB]

"I don't know if Jeff did it for the clicks"

Yeah. Much as "I'm sorry if you were offended" is not an actual apology, "I don't know if Jeff did it for the clicks" does not walk back the implication that he might have, but rather reiterates it.

 

[Sleeping Lesson]

Best part of this is the goobers doubling down. If they'd said "Yeeeah it was a dumb thing to say, we weren't having a serious conversation and we're sorry we articulated ourselves so poorly" this would have all gone away. Instead, here we are.

 

[SuperStiltzkin]

Non issues like this makes me glad I'm not into the giant bomb "fandom" like some other people.

You don't have to be a giantbomb fan to appreciate the irony of the situation here.

 

[YianGaruga]

So Ryan says they base their reviews on the "gamers experience" and not by the games technical issues? Do they think that "gamers" aren't bothered by technical issues? Why do they think Digital Foundry exists?

I can only enjoy Digital Foundry with a nice glass of wine

 

[FunkyPajamas]

I'm not familiar with the specific review in question and I have no idea of the Rooster Teeth comments were off base in this circumstance, but I'm glad to read that someone is publicly taking Gerstmann to task. The guy is a stick-in-the-mud blight on games media that's treated like a messiah for giving one shit game a mediocre review a decade ago. He has zero enthusiasm and only cynicism for gaming -- and it shows in both his writing as well as his podcast. He should just switch over to writing about wrestling or something that he actually enjoys.

Are you serious? I can't believe you're being serious so I'm going to assume you're being sarcastic.

In case you're not: people can be passionate about gaming without having to turn the other way when it comes to flaws in good games, or even just plain old mediocre games.

 

[Curufinwe]

lol I dunno isn't this what happens in pretty much every AAA game Review Thread on GAF?

Like, just watch when he ends up not liking Uncharted 4. Oh boy...

Brad or Dan will review it. Jeff didn't like The Last of Us and no one really cared cause he didn't review it.

 

[GrandHarrier]

I'm not familiar with the specific review in question and I have no idea of the Rooster Teeth comments were off base in this circumstance, but I'm glad to read that someone is publicly taking Gerstmann to task in some form. The guy is a stick-in-the-mud blight on games media that's treated like a messiah for giving one shit game a mediocre review a decade ago. He has zero enthusiasm and only cynicism for gaming -- and it shows in both his writing as well as his podcast. He should just switch over to writing about wrestling or something that he actually enjoys.

That's it. Let it all out. It's like a dam bursting.

 

[ClosingADoor]

Game journalism drama is the worst. Just do your damn job. Why shit on other peoples websites or reviews? Make your own and let your readers or viewers decide who they trust.

And then to feel the need to defend your stuff on Reddit and such. You have your own website. If you got something to share about it, write an article or make a video.