Plexirvones
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Rooster Teeth berate Jeff Gerstmann/Giant Bomb's Fallout 4 review while...
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All that merch reminds me of the dorito pope
Maybe it's time to crown a new pope?
Dari Elxix
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I'm just going to pretend you meant "Kanye & Lynch" and imagine what that game would've been like.
To be fair, Meg is the only one that actually does stuff related to the industry at large. Ryan is in Let's Plays and Gus does administrative stuff along with a voice in RvB and live action bits.
MiamiWesker
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Can someone explain to me how the game is a technical mess? I've been playing for about 25 hours and have had not one issue on ps4.
I played all Bethesda games on a PS3 last gen, I know what a technical mess is. This is perfect in comparison.
And the game is phenomenal. Giving a low score based on technical issues alone is a slippery scope. Glitches effect different people different ways. I was never bothered by them, as long as I can still play the game in some form I enjoyed it and all Bethesda games of last gen were among my favorites. Judge a game on the game first, then make sure to comment on how it runs. Unless it's so broken the game itself doesn't work well which is not the case with fallout 4.
I played all Bethesda games on a PS3 last gen, I know what a technical mess is. This is perfect in comparison.
And the game is phenomenal. Giving a low score based on technical issues alone is a slippery scope. Glitches effect different people different ways. I was never bothered by them, as long as I can still play the game in some form I enjoyed it and all Bethesda games of last gen were among my favorites. Judge a game on the game first, then make sure to comment on how it runs. Unless it's so broken the game itself doesn't work well which is not the case with fallout 4.
Get a load of that stick in the mud.
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That doesn't sound any different to Gerstmann's current role at GB.
SparkleMotion
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Games should just stop having review scores because of stuff like this. Of course it will never happen because of metacritic, but this idea of the review content not mattering as much as the arbitrary score attached (1-10? 1-5? There's no standard).
I will always be perplexed by people who demand fake excitement when it comes to video games over their actual feelings.
Crazy to me.
I remember some artists going after rolling stone and pitchfork after less than favorable reviews. I don't think they got down a personal level though.
Sheriff_Battlesnake
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Weird. Jeff Gerstmann was on their YouTube stream and Bernie Burs was on GB's stream with Greg Miller. I thought Bernie and Jeff seemed like seasoned vets out there with a lot of mutual respect for one another. Shame.
I've been to every RTX. I don;t mind them having criticism, but it's just kind of a cut throat approach to it...
I've been to every RTX. I don;t mind them having criticism, but it's just kind of a cut throat approach to it...
Smokey_Run
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I've got like 48 hours into the PS4 version and at times the framerate is a complete mess and is easily under 20fps. I've always had three hard crashes and a freeze (these coming in the past day or two).
Scientist Supreme!
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No clue but I only see GB fans getting upset.
Doesn't really answer my question.
Yeah. Fuck him for reviewing games on the internet since the internet began. He hates videogames.
I won't comment on rwby but Monty Oum's passing was an unexpected heart-wrench that still unexpectedly gets to me from time to time. Sad to think about the things we will never get to see from him.
CartridgeBlower
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Wait, he gave it a 4 out of 5 and they are bitching about that?
Rip Monty but rwby was otaku trash that had terrible voice acting meh... I like early read vs blue
I've watched rooster teeth for quite awhile but don't really their opinions on specific games. They tend to be really enthusiastic about what they like (often AAA shooters) and ignore a lot of Nintendo and indie games.
(Or at least that's how it was a year or so ago when I stopped watching the vids related to those topics)
(Or at least that's how it was a year or so ago when I stopped watching the vids related to those topics)
outunderthestars
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I don't see how lowering the score by one star due to technical issues is "giving it a low score on technical issues alone"
He cleared noted that the deduction was for technical issues, allowing those who don't care about those things (like myself) the opportunity to factor that into their purchasing decisions. Seems fair to me.
Risible
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Fucking LOL at calling GB's integrity into question.
Dan Rykert just shit all over his roommate's game on the last podcast, FFS.
The Fallout stuff they talked about on the latest Bombcast was so mild that only a total shill/fanboy could get upset over it.
Jeff Gerstmann is still a threat.
Dan Rykert just shit all over his roommate's game on the last podcast, FFS.
The Fallout stuff they talked about on the latest Bombcast was so mild that only a total shill/fanboy could get upset over it.
Jeff Gerstmann is still a threat.
He gave the PC version 4 out 5 and the console version 3 out 5 and explained his reasoning pretty well.
What I mean is that it's not strange if someone who doesn't really interact with industry and especially reviewers doesn't know about Jeff.
And Meg clearly knows who Jeff is with that odd Mixlr deep cut.
Smokey_Run
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4/5 on PC and 3/5 on consoles (docked points for technical problems).
SparkleMotion
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To be fair, even though he likes video games, he is still incredibly cynical. It almost seems like, except for big franchises, he goes into a game with a negative initial mindset until something can turn his negativity around. It comes through in quick looks.
The Dear Leader
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He gave the PC version 4 out of 5 stars, but the console version 3 out of 5 for their technical problems, even in the Quick Look they did the framerate in the PS4 they played just looked awful.
Probably worth mentioning the founder of RT seems to have a lot of respect for Gerstmann, and they've been on each other's panels. This looks like an uninformed cosplayer said something dumb, and the other guys went with it.
Even the RT community savaged them over it. Here's Ryan's response in their subreddit where he doubles-down (check the downvotes)
He's never heard of Jeff Gerstmann and he's questioning his integrity as a reviewer. Jeff of all people.
it's not a 90 like every else
fucker is just giving low scores for attention
CURSE YOU GERSTMANNNNNNNN
Lostconfused
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Hah, people getting mad about opinions.
He doesn't love games as much as me! I love every game! Big Rigs? 9/10. Bad Rats? 9.754/10. I've had to go invent new numbers higher than 10 to represent how much I love games more than everyone else.
Adam_Roman
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I don't like GB or RT and I think they're both right and wrong. I like that Jeff brought up the technical issues because that's really something that needs to be talked about with Bethesda games. They can't get free passes anymore. That being said I played it on PC and it's by no means a "technical mess" and I do feel they used that phrasing just to get clicks. I'm 30 hours in and I'm having a blast, but RT writing off GB's review as pure cynical clickbait isn't right because if you read it you can tell it's from a place of love for the series and wanting it to be the best it can be.
Vincent Alexander
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Welp, I've never watched any Rooster Teeth content....no real reason why not. Just haven't. But now at least I have a reason to stay away.
NullPointer
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I get why people think of Gerstmann as a curmudgeon, but I think he's just sick of seeing the same shit over and over and over again in the AAA world which he's expected to cover in depth.
You present him with something novel and fun and surprising and often silly, and he lights up.
Of course he's going to have opinions like the rest of us, but what I love about Jeff is that he'll drill down deep and explain in pretty extensive detail why he feels the way he does, and that's really all you could ask when it comes to opinions, whether you find them agreeable or not. He also has his own personal biases and tastes that are never going to mesh with everyone - the same as all of us.
And hey, he's super easy to avoid if you don't want any of it.
chicagocubsfan
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That's pretty dumb lol.
Also the giant dog thing in the first area of the game totally glitched on me in a sewer. So I beat it without doing anything lol.
Also the giant dog thing in the first area of the game totally glitched on me in a sewer. So I beat it without doing anything lol.
BurritoBushido
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what exactly would RT fans have to be upset about?
Bolivar687
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Fallout merchandise or not, I've always found Rooster Teeth speak from the heart and I can't say the same about Giant Bomb. 'Wine and cheese' might be a bit much but I think the general gist of what she said is spot on about them.
Hero_of_the_Day
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LOL. Don't know who these people are, but fuck this fanboy shit of crying over a 3/5 review. Go fuck yourselves.
He rated the PC version higher than the console versions because you don't see the issues that exist on the PS4 and Xbox One.
Like I said In my other post Ryan just says bs all the time partly why stopped listening
Yeah, he is the only one I've ever seen who uses it.
The mixlr from last week when he went to goto BB and the cashier said "your child is going to love this!" It's so good
AcademicSaucer
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Yeah, whats her neogaf account ?
It's not *just* the fact that they had a problem with Jeff or his review in particular. It's that given their reach and audience, they're perpetuating this ridiculous idea of reviews needing to be similar and that people can't have differing opinions on games. According to them, EVERYONE needs to like Bioshock Infinite and EVERYONE needs to like Fallout 4.
DICKS AHOY
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well yes that tends to be how reviews are supposed to work
Doesn't make her right. GAF has a history of getting into defensive fanboy mode over (somewhat) negative reviews just as much as other communities have.
Jeff gave Fallout 4 2 scores; 4/5 on PC and 3/5 on consoles citing the technical issues that are present on consoles to warrant the lower score. He obviously enjoys the game and thinks the PC is the place to play it which makes this entire thing sillier.
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