Rotten Watch: I Am Legend

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I will say this, I was on the edge of my seat and nearly shitting my pants about the possibility of the dark seekers. The whole first act and the absolutely solitary city set that up pretty well, along with his preparations for night.

That was broken when Neville trapped the female dark seeker and the male came out into the sunlight. The thing just looked so goofy. Then it was totally squashed in the dog scene.
 
Eric P said:
so he's been in an adaptation of a respected sci-fi book that's gone to shit, now a horror book that's gone to shit, so i'm guessing next for him is fantasy.

Will Smith is ELRIC

That would be amazing.
 
just saw it. first half was pretty entertaining. but yeah, it all kind of goes to shit when
they show the monsters have some form of intelligence/affection and then do nothing with it.
and having
his legend be the cure
was also not as cool as the book.
 
impirius said:
Jesus power


she said she was on a boat.... from south america... her partners were killed off as they kept docking for supplies.... duh.....
 
chubigans said:
Spoilers helloooooooooooo.

gah, whats the point?
why read the thread if you havent seen the movie?

Fine.

Also, to
those asking about what other forms of intelligence the dark seekers expressed...

Will Smith was losing his grip on reality, he was making mistakes. He misinterpreted the dark seeker willingly stepping into the light and causing himself pain as a degeneration of his basic survival skills due to lack of food supply, but really that was his mate that was captured and he did it out of compassion/hatred, which are two very human emotions. Besides the obvious copying of the trap and the dark seeker opening the roof so the others could get in, did you not see the main DS directing the movements of the others?

He was issuing commands, gesturing the DS to attack will smith in waves. Sending them in from different angles, 2 at a time, etc. Not only that, the dogs had leashes. This dark seeker DOMESTICATED these animals. That means he/they were capable of tying knots, pacifying and training animals (like humans do), and using them to their strengths.

People must have missed it, but to those wondering why only the dogs attacked Will Smith and not the DS themselves, there was an article hanging up in one of the houses on the wall that had a headline saying how canines were capable of walking outside in the twilight hours hours. I guess since they have more of an immunity (i.e., cant get infected by the airborne strain) they are less photosensitive to light. The sun was juuuust going down, vs the DS who only came out in the pitch black of night, so thats why only the dogs chased him down at that scene and not the DS. It was too early according to Will Smiths watch, that was first warning. At least, that was my understanding of the scene.

To go back to a previous point, there are several reasons why I believe Robert chose to kill himself. First being, as far as he was concerned, his life ended the moment his family was killed. You can see by him repeating his promise to his wife to the new woman, he's only hanging on to fulfill this promise and 'fix the problem.' He does this. He also must have realized that, like himself, he would do anything for his wife - just as he figured out that this DS would do the same. Think about it - to the head DS here, Robert just "killed" his girlfriend. (Though to Robert, he "saved" her - notice the difference). So the man was pissed. Robert must have realized that they'd never stop coming after him or his kind, and the woman and kid had no chance unless he didn't go with them. And without a purpose anymore, or a friend, how could he possibly go on alone anymore? He was trying to kill himself the night before at the pier, and now with his mission concluded, he just decided his purpose was over and he wanted to join his family. I guess when he saw the butterfly and remembered the words of his daughter, he just... I don't know, believed again or something. So it wasn't so much his death to dramatize the ending, but an actual, conscious choice of the character himself.

So yea, while I thought the movie was uneven... first half far better... I did very much enjoy it. Never read the book, yet.
 
I just got back from a matinee. I was expecting garbage - the ort of unarguable garbage that you sometimes get - let's just say Wild Wild West, for example - and I got a tense, action-packed deviation from the original(s) that was fraught and enjoyable to watch. Some of the slams I've read about this movie are demonstrably, objectively incorrect - as the poster pointing out details and plot-hole explanations above, demonstrated full well.

impirius said:
Jesus power


Or a boat.
 
Watched the movie yesterday with some friends, and I really don't get GAF's hate. Many scenes were damn interesting and outright enjoyable.
(the three zombie dogs vs. Sam, Will having to kill Sam, and the whole "saying hi to the manikin in the video store" were all very powerful scenes)
And yes, the movie did go downhill once
Will meets the woman, (Not to mention the ending was so cliched it hurt)
I still thoroughly enjoyed it.

Also, this film really makes me want a dog.
 
Hey guys i just came back from seeing the movie and let me tell you
I am legend...not so much.. it was disappointing. Basically the movie is
Resident evil
+ will smith+ disappointment = I am legend. yeah thats it
 
spermatic cord said:
When he though Fred was alive did Fred's head move? Also, was that trap from the vampires or was it one of his traps he forgot about?
pretty sure it was form the Zombies. nah his head didnt move but when he got shot down fred looked like it breathed lol
 
I'm in the process of reading the book now, but I really, really liked this movie. I knew it'd be different from the book going in, and I really enjoyed it.

This is also the first movie in a long, long time that made me cry. Not get a lump in my throat, not get misty-eyed, but tears streaming down my cheeks kinda crying.

When he was holding Sam to his chest while she died, my eyes started to water, and his face when she'd died and when he was driving was really moving... and then he went into the video store and I thought "Oh fuck..." and he goes, "I promised my friend I would come in here and say hello to you." and the tears just started flowing.
That was really well acted and insanely emotional, so people hating on this movie or Will Smith obviously don't have hearts or feelings.
 
Nooreo said:
pretty sure it was form the Zombies. nah his head didnt move but when he got shot down fred looked like it breathed lol


I think it did move. I think you were supposed to be sharing his doubts and madness.
 
Stinkles said:
I think it did move. I think you were supposed to be sharing his doubts and madness.
Yeah you're seeing it as Will sees it. There was one very quick shot where the dummy was clearly "alive." The same way that when Will first wakes up to find the woman and child who saved him in his kitchen, he first sees them as his dead wife and child.
 
Note: this criticism comes from someone who HASN'T read the original story (have the book, will be reading it this week) so took the movie not as an adaptation but at face value:

I thought the first half/two-thirds of the movie was fantastic. And then it fell apart as soon as the the two other humans showed up.

I was really hoping that they were going to have the balls to make Will the only real human in the entire movie. I think that would have been very daring, and Will more than proved that he was entirely capable of carrying the entire movie himself, he's just so damn watchable. But I kinda always knew they were never going to do that, and I don't think it's a coincidence that the movie started to fall apart in the third act, as soon as the woman and her son showed up.
 
I got back from it, it wasnt terrible...it was alright.

and the
Batman/Superman
poster was a nice touch considering the chance of it are slim.
 
I enjoyed the movie quite a bit. Having lower expectations thanks to the cynics on this board and the rather poor critic reviews probably helped with that a great deal.

I thoroughly enjoyed the first 2/3 of the film. Spectacular performance from Will Smith and I genuinely felt for him in many scenes. Very well put together.

The only problem I had with it, other than the all-too-perfect ending that reminded me of Spielburg's AI, was the CG for the dark-seekers. Am I the only one who wishes it was people in really good make-up instead with some CG assistance for certain scenes? The gigantic Mummy-like jaw of the lead DS drove me crazy. For the tone the movie strikes and how realistic it seems (cure that ends up going horribly wrong), even though they're flesh eating zombies, the terrible CG really puts it over the top.
 
Definitely agree 100% on the CG comment. CG these days is pretty damn good but not so good that we can't tell what's real and what's fake, particularly when it comes to animating humans.

28 Days/Weeks Later used real people in make-up to 100% greater effect, and for probably 100th of the cost.
 
I liked the movie despite thinking it's a bad movie. It reminds me a lot of Silent Hill, deserving respect for being fairly unique yet ultimately failing because the last act feels like tacked on bullshit meant for the idiots that didn't appreciate the rest of the movie.

Also there were like 5 people that walked out on this. It's really not a typical Hollywood Will Smith movie, I myself got a goddamn headache from how achingly intense most of the movie was.
 
ddk said:
TheDrizzlerJ11 said:
Forgot about that. Funny because when that was happening i remember thinking to myself,
"his wife will be the reason everyone outside the island catches it". Obviously she wasn't the person but others may have been.
Good point.

didn't his wife and daughter die in a helicopter crash. when they blew the bridge there were people trying to grab onto a helicopter that was on the side with rushing people. it spun out of control heading for the chopper his wife and daughter were in. they were on a collision path then moments before the crash the scene cut away. i assumed both of them died before they could even leave.

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Just got back from the movie. I liked it alot. I accept and acknowledge the hate being said about this movie, but I don't get it, hehe.

Will Smith did a good job in this movie. All the Sam scenes, awesome. The ending could have been better I guess, but I don't know.
 
Yeah.

What made it intense was how silent, lonely and insane the movie is in the first two-thirds. It seriously should have stayed without the woman and the child,
though I felt they were already writing themselves into a corner at the time when the dogs attacked him. The other dark seekers should have gone after him along with the dogs, but that'd kill Will Smith way too early. I can somewhat forgive that just due to the fucking heartbreak when he had to kill Sam. I saw it coming a mile away after the hounds started fighting Sam, but jeez.

All in all, I was very impressed with Will Smith.
When Sam ran into the abandoned building, Will Smith did a great job of pretending to be scared shitless and really, implicitly telling us that the dark is something to be incredibly afraid of. Silence really was golden in that movie.
 
One thing I will say about this movie is that I loved the use of sound. The silent moments were just placed right at all times. Really a great change of pace when you get your ears blown off during a Pirates movie with constant noise.
 
I never understand why these movies feel like they need an "alpha" zombie. 28 Weeks Later didn't benefit from it, Land of the Dead didn't benefit from it, and neither did this. What exactly did having a zombie "boss" bring to the movie?

The infected are plenty scary enough without them developing intelligence - they're all the MORE scary for being completely mindless. The idea that one of the "darkseekers" had grown intelligent enough to set a trap and train dogs only undermined the movie's own scientific/medical logic.
 
Another thing... why do CG vampires? They all are human shaped. Slap some good old make-up on them and call it a day.
 
This movie was way better than what I thought it would be. It lost me near the end though. Why couldn't it keep the pace it set up?
 
reilo said:
Another thing... why do CG vampires? They all are human shaped. Slap some good old make-up on them and call it a day.

AFAIK, director wanted them to do a lot of hyperventilating, and the actors couldn't do that without passing out after an extended amount of time.

Or they didn't look convincing enough for him.
 
layzie1989 said:
I am amazed at the number of people that are able to suck the fun out of watching a movie

For a bonus to the TDK trailer, it was pretty good.

I don't complain much when it's free.
 
I pretty much agree with everything Gary Whitta has said.

The first 2/3 and anything with Sam was great. The first time he goes in to explore the dark building after Sam runs in was executed incredibly well from every aspect.
Sam's death was heart-wrenching and I loved how they kept the shot on Will the whole time and didn't cut. Very powerful

Like Gary said, the presence of a 'lead' dark seeker wasn't really necessary, especially if they weren't going to flesh out the higher intelligence aspects of the dark seekers. It felt tacked on.

But I can't call this a terrible movie in any way, there are some very genuinely enjoyable moments that made me glad I saw it.
 
Gary Whitta said:
I never understand why these movies feel like they need an "alpha" zombie. 28 Weeks Later didn't benefit from it, Land of the Dead didn't benefit from it, and neither did this. What exactly did having a zombie "boss" bring to the movie?

The infected are plenty scary enough without them developing intelligence - they're all the MORE scary for being completely mindless. The idea that one of the "darkseekers" had grown intelligent enough to set a trap and train dogs only undermined the movie's own scientific/medical logic.


This is left over from the book. I believe in the book there are smart vampires and mindless vampires. I enjoyed the movie but like most people thought everything before the
lady
showed up was better. The ending was kind of lame and I wish they had kept the book version of why he was a legend instead of what they went with.
 
i still think the movie was pretty good and i enjoyed Smith's performance, but the last act really did kind of blow.

again, i don't see what the point of showing
the dark seeker's have some form of intelligence if they're never going to explore it. i mean, they took a fucking mannequin that Smith just happened to talk to every day to lure him into a fucking trap they saw him create and were able to mimic exactly. they show that the dark seeker's have affection for one another when the male sticks his had out into the light to look for the female, and the female seems to be the driving factor for their pursuit of Smith but again, they did nothing with it.

and the cure/Smith's journey for a cure being the legend is lame and feels tacked on so the film's title could make some sense. the main character being a fucking LEGEND is a lot cooler.
 
Emerson said:
- The ending was a piece of shit, and the attempt to make the movie's title relevant with the final lines was ridiculous. I'm all for movies being changed for the screen adaptation, but the original ending was much, much better.

what was the original ending if you dont mind me asking.

and lol, this movie makes it worse for michael vick.

anyways, I enjoyed the movie tho I felt it could have been so much more if the writing was better.

I mean, the plot could have been so much better....i was expecting alot more from the plot....and then the way it ended felt way too abrupt.

i dont know, i think the writing could have made this a top top film, but for now, its a solid 3.5/5

acting, directing, editing, etc...all top notch.
 
Fixed2BeBroken said:
what was the original ending if you dont mind me asking.

in the book, the vampires view Nevell as the monster since he is a day walker that goes into their homes at night and kills them. so, he is a legend like we view vampires or other monsters as a legend.
 
I pretty much loved it save for that chick and all her/the religious overtones. And even that didn't really kill my enjoyment. I also wished they hadn't included the
"Light up the darkness"
crap after the fade to black.

His 1st encounter with the DS in that building is the stuff nightmares are made of. Awesome.
What the hell were the DS doing huddled together like that and shaking or trembling?? *shudders*
 
Apharmd said:
Yeah.

What made it intense was how silent, lonely and insane the movie is in the first two-thirds. It seriously should have stayed without the woman and the child,
though I felt they were already writing themselves into a corner at the time when the dogs attacked him. The other dark seekers should have gone after him along with the dogs, but that'd kill Will Smith way too early. I can somewhat forgive that just due to the fucking heartbreak when he had to kill Sam. I saw it coming a mile away after the hounds started fighting Sam, but jeez.

All in all, I was very impressed with Will Smith.
When Sam ran into the abandoned building, Will Smith did a great job of pretending to be scared shitless and really, implicitly telling us that the dark is something to be incredibly afraid of. Silence really was golden in that movie.

Read my post above.

Some of the slams I've read about this movie are demonstrably, objectively incorrect - as the poster pointing out details and plot-hole explanations above, demonstrated full well.

thankee, sai
 
Can anyone confirm an alternate ending that was shot for this? From what I understand, the original ending was reshot.

Will be interesting to see if the alternate ending shows up on DVD/BD.
 
I liked the movie alot. Like others have said the first 3/4th of the movie was great.
But how are they going to cure the 500,000 million people infected now?
 
mckmas8808 said:
I liked the movie alot. Like others have said the first 3/4th of the movie was great.
But how are they going to cure the 500,000 million people infected now?
I was wondering this as well,
because his original cure had to be used in cold temperatures for it to work.....He says that to the girl when he tells her he's using the same one from earlier (the one that killed the infected girl the first time) but in the cold because it makes the effects that much more controlled.
 
Synless said:
I was wondering this as well,
because his original cure had to be used in cold temperatures for it to work.....He says that to the girl when he tells her he's using the same one from earlier (the one that killed the infected girl the first time) but in the cold because it makes the effects that much more controlled.

Exactly what I was thinking!
So obviously they can't have a "I am Legend 2" right?
 
An awesome ending would have been if
after Robert blows himself and the zombies up with the grenade, the heat resulting from the blast fuses the door shut where the mother and child are hiding behind
.
 
John Harker said:
Read my post above.



thankee, sai

Ah, that does explain it. Thanks a bunch, I missed that tidbit on the dogs. As for the ending, I still felt it was a bit weak, but the post is a pretty good way to look at Will Smith's part.
 
I went to a viewing last night and loved it.

it would've been better if...

...the woman and the kid were also darkseekers but just undisfigured; her reaction to the lab and all the pictures of the dead darkseekers lead me to think that. I was waiting for her to betray him the entire time and it never came. =(


Was I the only one thinking perverted thoughts of the female darkseeker on the operating table >_>?
 
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