Rottenwatch: TRANSFORMERS Revenge of the Fallen
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Saw a free screening yesterday.
6/10.
Way too fucking long.
Why does the CG in Transformers look like shit? It's poorly animated and often blurry.
Story was retarded.
You could tell it was a Michael Bay film though, by the style and comedic elements.
Would've been a lot better if they cut 30 minutes from it.
Movie was way too fucking long.
6/10.
Way too fucking long.
Why does the CG in Transformers look like shit? It's poorly animated and often blurry.
Story was retarded.
You could tell it was a Michael Bay film though, by the style and comedic elements.
Would've been a lot better if they cut 30 minutes from it.
Movie was way too fucking long.
Roger Ebert gives one star to Transformers (he gave the first movie three stars):
http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090623/REVIEWS/906239997
http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090623/REVIEWS/906239997
SonicMegaDrive
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I'll be sad the day Ebert passes on.
His opinion is usually the first I look to when it comes to the consensus on any movie. 90% of the time, he's right on the money.
:lol
I believe the term for this is "CG diarrhea", Roger.
He needs to re-watch 'The Day the Earth Stood Still'.
His opinion is usually the first I look to when it comes to the consensus on any movie. 90% of the time, he's right on the money.
:lol
I believe the term for this is "CG diarrhea", Roger.
He needs to re-watch 'The Day the Earth Stood Still'.
gutter_trash
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goodcow said:
how about the scenes with humans talking VS the screen time of actual Transformers?
Do Decepticons (besides Megatron) get to actually talk this time?
dammitmattt
Banned
:lol :lol :lol
Great review
Great review
Ollie Pooch
In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
SonicMegaDrive said:
or 'Aliens'
i love Ebert. on the mark, every time.
AndrewG009
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Dead said:
I agree. But there is nothing silly about Rhinox and his machine guns of doom.
goodcow said:
Goodcow.. were you at Lincoln Square IMAX last night?
Also, right on with your review. Way too long. 1:45 or less would have been perfect. There were a lot of drawn out scenes.
And after digesting what I saw last night, I have to say I liked T1 better. It was a bit drawn out, but still better paced, plot was tighter and was just more interesting. It was much easier to keep track of the whole roster and they were definitely more likable.
The IMAX scenes in T2 were worth it alone, but be prepared to be bored in quite a few parts towards the middle.
Edit: I also agree with Ebert, hah. His opening paragraph is perfect.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
I...how did y.......wait, what? Was the projector crappy at your screening or something?goodcow said:
Actually wait, never mind, I'll just step out of the thread soon. I'm likely fighting a losing battle here no matter what discussion arises.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
I have yet to see an IMAX screening, but I saw no issues at our work screening on a digital projector. Granted, our equipment is also likely to be not typical of what you'd see in an average theater that undergoes a lot more usage or may not be as top of the line.Jim said:
Schattenjäger
Gabriel Knight
does this movie have any spielberg influence such as the first half of the first one?
beelzebozo
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from david chen's twitter
:lol
:lol
XiaNaphryz said:
Well IMAX screens are 70 feet+ wide, 50 feet+ tall and curved so it's way easier to pick out inconsistencies. And they have rather incredible equipment (this theater in NYC definitely does), it's way more high end than a typical theater. Plus, not sure what the IMAX specific scenes look like on a regular screens. Zoomed out and widescreen I'd expect. It wasn't bad at all, but it was there.
That's a fake IMAX screen right? And crowd control, why?goodcow said:
gutter_trash
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okay how about the Deceptiocns this time?
do they freakin' talk this time?
in the first movie, they seemed like brainless Kamikaze robots who had no sense of team unity and just sacrificed themselves to failure when compared to the witty G1 Decepticons who had their indiviual charismatic personanlities (Rumble, Thundercracker, Blitzwing, Astrotrain, Starscream, Megatron, Bombshell, you name it, the G1 Decepticon had freakin' personnality and drew appeal
this is what I completely hated about Bay's 1st Transformers = the Deceptiocons were characterless and were expandable
do they freakin' talk this time?
in the first movie, they seemed like brainless Kamikaze robots who had no sense of team unity and just sacrificed themselves to failure when compared to the witty G1 Decepticons who had their indiviual charismatic personanlities (Rumble, Thundercracker, Blitzwing, Astrotrain, Starscream, Megatron, Bombshell, you name it, the G1 Decepticon had freakin' personnality and drew appeal
this is what I completely hated about Bay's 1st Transformers = the Deceptiocons were characterless and were expandable
gutter_trash
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it is clear that Ebert got disconnected and does not care about the individual names of the Transformers (like mistaking Starscrem for JetFire/SkyFire)
SonicMegaDrive
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gutter_trash said:
That, and calling the Decepticons 'Deceptibots' will naturally make supporters for this film scoff at his review. What's that old man know anyway? He didn't even like 'Alvin and the Chipmunks'!
beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
doesn't even know the differences between the transformer names?
get with the times, old man!
get with the times, old man!
just came back from seeing it and i think it ultimately comes down to being too long/too much. i enjoyed the first one fine as harmless but fun bay food. the second one is pretty similar but with a bit more of everything which ultimately bloats the running time and the ability to enjoy the film.
so, yeah, eating one tube of cookie dough is a yummy treat....but trying to eat multiple tubes in one sitting will make it stop tasting so good and, eventually, you're going to wonder why you thought it was a good idea in the first place.
so, yeah, eating one tube of cookie dough is a yummy treat....but trying to eat multiple tubes in one sitting will make it stop tasting so good and, eventually, you're going to wonder why you thought it was a good idea in the first place.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Yeah, the movie definitely felt long. I recall glancing at my watch a few times. I knew it going in though, so it didn't bother me as much as I thought it might.
PhoncipleBone
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Gantz said:
Character design is love or hate it, but piss poor cinematography? WOW. If there is one thing that is consistent in everything Michael Bay, its fantastic cinematography. He hires the best DPs and knows how to make a good looking movie.
SecretBonusPoint
Banned
The critic backlash at the movie is both ridiculous and hilarious.
I really enjoyed it, maybe it was a little too long in the middle, but thats mainly because I had to pee. I'll be there day one for the Blu-Ray and hopefully the extended scenes from the IMAX and maybe a few more.
The Optimus Unleashed forest fight is worth the price of admission alone.
I really enjoyed it, maybe it was a little too long in the middle, but thats mainly because I had to pee. I'll be there day one for the Blu-Ray and hopefully the extended scenes from the IMAX and maybe a few more.
The Optimus Unleashed forest fight is worth the price of admission alone.
SecretBonusPoint said:
that was definitely the high point.
as for my negative take on the movie, it's not like i went in trying to dislike the movie. i really enjoyed the first one and defended its entertainment value. for me, this is just a case of bigger not always being better.
SonicMegaDrive
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giga said:
That bit was particularly nasty.
If he had an evil, villainous mustache while he was writing that review, you can bet he was twirling it.
Schattenjäger
Gabriel Knight
for those that saw it, how accurate is the portrayal of
Soundwave
BudokaiMR2
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PhoncipleBone said:
it might be flashy but it is not fantastic. He has absolutely no originality at all. Any person who spins a camera around some crappy romance scene pointing at the sun automatically fucking loses.
LowParry
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So going to see this Thursday morning at 11:45 am. Cheaper tickets. IMAX. Game on. Seems like this is a love or hate type of movie. Guess I'll find out on my own. First movie was okay. I enjoyed it more because of the sound and effects show on screen. If this movie turns out to be the same as the first, I'll enjoy it for what it is worth.
Dead Man Typing
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Schattenjagger said:
He's a satellite.
The first film was better, but this one is still okay.
It lacks charm and far too much screen time is given to the "twins", which could have been used to give some of the other autobots some real character.
lunarworks
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That was one of the things I'd forgotten I hated about the first movie.gutter_trash said:
Decepticons were always arguing and bickering with each other in all previous series, but in the movie they were pretty much silent and Megatron had like two lines.
Edit: Oh, except for that stupid tiny Decepticon that made noises like a fucking gremlin. WTF was that all about?
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
I wouldn't say it looks like shit, and it seems to be better lookingin T2 as well, but I do know what you mean. In T1, when I was watching it in theater, it either looked like there was too much motion blur on CG or too little, and the animation of robot's closeups seemed a bit jittery when they would move slowly.goodcow said:
Now as I said, all this looks better to me in T2 from the trailers, but I was also really surprised at how much better the CG looked when I was watching the movie on TV. The problems with jittery animation seemed to disappear and the blur didn't seem that bad either. Maybe the 3:2 frame pulldown actually helped here somehow.
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