Anticitizen One
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DopeyFish said:whaaaaaaa man ebert must have been on drugs when he wrote this review
hes an old geezer that doesn't understand our 80s culture. Pay him no mind.
DopeyFish said:whaaaaaaa man ebert must have been on drugs when he wrote this review
Opus Angelorum said:To those suggesting the CGI is poor, do they care present some of their own work? I love how people criticise something when they have zero knowledge of its complexity.
Opus Angelorum said:To those suggesting the CGI is poor, do they care present some of their own work? I love how people criticise something when they have zero knowledge of its complexity.
except he really liked the first movie. don't talk shit. people act like Ebert is the only one hating on this movie. :lol updated RT score. currently at 30%.Anticitizen One said:hes an old geezer that doesn't understand our 80s culture. Pay him no mind.
Stupidest post in the thread. I guess I can't criticize Lebron James' playoff performance since I suck at basketball right? Fucking dumb.Opus Angelorum said:To those suggesting the CGI is poor, do they care present some of their own work? I love how people criticise something when they have zero knowledge of its complexity.
Erhm, what?Opus Angelorum said:To those suggesting the CGI is poor, do they care present some of their own work? I love how people criticise something when they have zero knowledge of its complexity.
Schattenjagger said:for those that saw it, how accurate is the portrayal ofSoundwave
:/Gantz said:It's a money saving technique as a result of the complex scrap metal mish-mash character designs. If the designs were simpler they probably would have more money to animate them better.
Ah, this wholeheartedly retarded argument.Opus Angelorum said:To those suggesting the CGI is poor, do they care present some of their own work? I love how people criticise something when they have zero knowledge of its complexity.
XiaNaphryz said:
Opus Angelorum said:To those suggesting the CGI is poor, do they care present some of their own work? I love how people criticise something when they have zero knowledge of its complexity.
Sigh. I cant believe my eyes. I dont want to believe them. TRANSFORMERS REVENGE OF THE FALLEN is one of the most unrepentantly juvenile, gleefully offensive, mind bogglingly inane films I have ever seen with a real budget behind it. And thats saying a lot. There are things here I never would have believed had I read about them things I would have found to be exaggeration and hyperbole on the part of oversensitive, agenda driven people looking for a fight. But I saw them, plain as day. And Im still having a hard time believing what I saw.
But if that werent enough, he had to add even more comic relief than the first time around. Remember Turturro? Yeah. Well apparently he had it in his contract that there needed to be a character even more obnoxious than him to say all the REALLY shitty lines. Its Turturro squared.
Then theres the Joepecicon a terrible GOODFELLAS joke gone awry in the form of a small Decepticon who cracks wise incessantly. And worst of all, the frightening sidekicks of the film and the mistake this film will most likely be forever known for: Mudflap and Skids, the Stepin Fetchbots of the film. Its as if Michael Bay looked at Jar Jar Binks and said Oh, fuck no. Really? People find THAT offensive? Fuck that, Ill show them a fucking stereotype theyll never fucking forget! And he does.
Oh. My. God.
They speak in clichéd urban slang, tossing around phrases like Im gonna pop a cap in your ass while fist bumping and mumbling unintelligently in a voice that sounds like a bad Chappelle Show sketch. Then you get a close up. And they each have bug eyes and a gold tooth. Then theres this jackass comment about them not being able to read. My jaw was on the floor. I mean, if youre gonna toss out a bad stereotype, at least have the courtesy to make that stereotype a complete badass so as to deflect complaints that this is a deliberately negative portrayal. These mother fuckers are incompetent, bumbling and never, EVER, cool.
And all this leads to the worst sin of the film. Its called TRANSFORMERS. And yet, 90% of the film is spent entirely with the above collection of tools and occasionally Bumblebee who has mysteriously lost his voice again. Sure, the film OPENS with Optimus Prime and all the badasses from the previous film. But theyre barely in this film at all. Its more about Shia and Megan running around, collecting incompetent sidekicks while half-assing their way through an Indiana Jones plot. Ironhide? Ratchet? Theyre all back at the base. They could only spare a pair of sambot jackasses for THE MOST IMPORTANT MISSION, LIKE, EVER!
This film is a total and complete waste; a soggy, half baked dessert of a film that you cant even say Well, at least the action was cool. It is an embarrassment, a pathetic misuse of hundreds of millions of dollars that only serves as the new model for excess run amok. Hopefully ten years from now I can put this in and laugh about it the way I laugh about BATMAN AND ROBIN, giggling furiously at the idea that they spent that much money of robot balls and a cybernetic minstrel show. But right now Im too disappointed, too bitter and just too appalled to find any of this funny. You know, now that I think about it, maybe Bay got his giant, limp, swinging cyber-phallus after all. Its called TRANSFORMERS: REVENGE OF THE FALLEN.
shagg_187 said:People making fun of Ebert? There always a first!
Here's another review if it hasn't been already posted.
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/41503
What a painful read. PAINFUL!
He compared it to Batman and Robin.Hopefully ten years from now I can put this in and laugh about it the way I laugh about BATMAN AND ROBIN, giggling furiously at the idea that they spent that much money of robot balls and a cybernetic minstrel show.
reilo said:He compared it to Batman and Robin.
Batman, and Robin.
And this is from a guy that liked the first movie.
Game over.
duckroll said:- There's pretty much no character development at all. Not for new human characters and not for new robot characters. The movie just keeps throwing stuff on screen and somethings it's really random.
duckroll said:Watched it tonight! OMG GIANT ROBOTS!
Pros:
- Awesome CGI work.
- Lots and LOTS of action, it pretty much never lets up.
- Pretty good human/robot interaction, there's much much more than the first movie and it works a lot better this time round.
- Expands the movie lore much more, and doesn't retread on stuff covered in the first movie.
- Really nice music, the score is even better than the first one.
- New Divide rocks!
Cons:
- The gross humor that Bay is famous for is still there, and there's a ton of it. Not as much as in Bay Boys 2, but hey, for a PG-13 movie he managed to squeeze a TON in. Lulz.
- The movie is definitely too long. Pacing starts to drag later in the film.
- There's pretty much no character development at all. Not for new human characters and not for new robot characters. The movie just keeps throwing stuff on screen and somethings it's really random.
Really? Really?SonicMegaDrive said:But in retrospect, I think it's a good thing that we'll have both of these films around to talk about for years and years to come.
DevelopmentArrested said:Really? Really?
^ This is the best written review so far...he actually explains stuff instead of just saying lol it sucks. Sounds like a fun rideduckroll said:Watched it tonight! OMG GIANT ROBOTS!
Pros:
- Awesome CGI work.
- Lots and LOTS of action, it pretty much never lets up.
- Pretty good human/robot interaction, there's much much more than the first movie and it works a lot better this time round.
- Expands the movie lore much more, and doesn't retread on stuff covered in the first movie.
- Really nice music, the score is even better than the first one.
- New Divide rocks!
Cons:
- The gross humor that Bay is famous for is still there, and there's a ton of it. Not as much as in Bay Boys 2, but hey, for a PG-13 movie he managed to squeeze a TON in. Lulz.
- The movie is definitely too long. Pacing starts to drag later in the film.
- There's pretty much no character development at all. Not for new human characters and not for new robot characters. The movie just keeps throwing stuff on screen and somethings it's really random.
unjustlySonicMegaDrive said:We continue to lambast 'Independence Day'
Not really. That was about as vague of a review as I have read.kbear said:^ This is the best written review so far...he actually explains stuff instead of just saying lol it sucks. Sounds like a fun ride
well nobody wants to read specific scene descriptions and be spoiledreilo said:Not really. That was about as vague of a review as I have read.
duckroll said:Watched it tonight! OMG GIANT ROBOTS!
Pros:
- Awesome CGI work.
- Lots and LOTS of action, it pretty much never lets up.
- Pretty good human/robot interaction, there's much much more than the first movie and it works a lot better this time round.
- Expands the movie lore much more, and doesn't retread on stuff covered in the first movie.
- Really nice music, the score is even better than the first one.
- New Divide rocks!
Cons:
- The gross humor that Bay is famous for is still there, and there's a ton of it. Not as much as in Bay Boys 2, but hey, for a PG-13 movie he managed to squeeze a TON in. Lulz.
- The movie is definitely too long. Pacing starts to drag later in the film.
- There's pretty much no character development at all. Not for new human characters and not for new robot characters. The movie just keeps throwing stuff on screen and somethings it's really random.
duckroll said:Watched it tonight! OMG GIANT ROBOTS!
Pros:
- Awesome CGI work.
- Lots and LOTS of action, it pretty much never lets up.
- Pretty good human/robot interaction, there's much much more than the first movie and it works a lot better this time round.
- Expands the movie lore much more, and doesn't retread on stuff covered in the first movie.
- Really nice music, the score is even better than the first one.
- New Divide rocks!
Cons:
- The gross humor that Bay is famous for is still there, and there's a ton of it. Not as much as in Bay Boys 2, but hey, for a PG-13 movie he managed to squeeze a TON in. Lulz.
- The movie is definitely too long. Pacing starts to drag later in the film.
- There's pretty much no character development at all. Not for new human characters and not for new robot characters. The movie just keeps throwing stuff on screen and somethings it's really random.
AFreak said:Well I'm probably going to hate it then.
Solo said:Did you honestly expect a Transformers movie to have character development? This is a movie about giant robots who turn into vehicles and spout cheesey lines while blowing up shit.
chubigans said:Roger Ebert gives one star to Transformers (he gave the first movie three stars):
http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090623/REVIEWS/906239997
The human actors are in a witless sitcom part of the time, and lot of the rest of their time is spent running in slo-mo away from explosions, although--hello!--you can't outrun an explosion.
duckroll said:The Rock is my favorite movie of -all time-, so if you think that invalidates my taste in movies in any form just feel free to stop reading right now.
AFreak said:Expecting it no, but wanting it are two different things entirely. I'm sorry I don't let hacks get away with bombastic bullshit and want them to raise the bar for everyone(you know the public that ill be feeding their kids). Point is, action movies DONT have to be devoid of all character development for the sake of action.
duckroll said:Watched it tonight! OMG GIANT ROBOTS!
Pros:
- Awesome CGI work.
- Lots and LOTS of action, it pretty much never lets up.
- Pretty good human/robot interaction, there's much much more than the first movie and it works a lot better this time round.
- Expands the movie lore much more, and doesn't retread on stuff covered in the first movie.
- Really nice music, the score is even better than the first one.
- New Divide rocks!
Cons:
- The gross humor that Bay is famous for is still there, and there's a ton of it. Not as much as in Bay Boys 2, but hey, for a PG-13 movie he managed to squeeze a TON in. Lulz.
- The movie is definitely too long. Pacing starts to drag later in the film.
- There's pretty much no character development at all. Not for new human characters and not for new robot characters. The movie just keeps throwing stuff on screen and somethings it's really random.
Kletian said:I'm really trying to figure out what the beef with 'no robot character development' is. With the exception of the Beast Wars series, as far as I can remember there wasnt much in the course of Character development to the franchise to begin with. And even if there was, they had seasons upon seasons to build them up.
Optimus has always been the stoic leader who'd kickass when he had to.
Megatron has always been the megalomaniac
Starscream has always been the backstabbing bastard.
Everyone else 90% of the time just filled certain roles (Ironhide being the country boy, Jazz the token black guy etc), or even worse, just served as placeholders in fight scenes.
So when I go into this movie that's all I want and all I expect.
StrikerObi said:Also, how can there be good character interaction if there is no character development? How can you film two lifeless rocks and then proclaim that they interact well?
StrikerObi said:Note that everything under "Cons" is what makes a film a film, everything under "Pros" is just window dressing. How can there be good character interaction if there is no character development? How can you film two lifeless rocks and then proclaim that they interact well?
Kletian said:I'm pretty sure you don't need actual character development to have good character interaction
Yes the two are not always mutually exclusive but they're also not always connected.
Edit: Ah, alright duckroll, that make a bit more sense then![]()